going red while cloaked

I don’t think you should be able to see someone as red on your screen while they are cloaked it kind of defeats the purpose doesn’t it.

Active Camo is powerful enough as it is, it doesn’t need to be any stronger.

If it was a pickup like Overshields, then sure, I’d agree with you. But as an Armour Ability? Definitely not.

You want active Camo to be more powerful?

> Active Camo is powerful enough as it is, it doesn’t need to be any stronger.
>
> If it was a pickup like Overshields, then sure, I’d agree with you. But as an Armour Ability? Definitely not.

I beg to differ.Within the next week or two, when the TU is released, AC will be nerfed so that the user,when one shot is fired, becomes 100 per cent visible!

> > Active Camo is powerful enough as it is, it doesn’t need to be any stronger.
> >
> > If it was a pickup like Overshields, then sure, I’d agree with you. But as an Armour Ability? Definitely not.
>
> I beg to differ.Within the next week or two, when the TU is released, AC will be nerfed so that the user,when one shot is fired, becomes 100 per cent visible!

Source?

> > > Active Camo is powerful enough as it is, it doesn’t need to be any stronger.
> > >
> > > If it was a pickup like Overshields, then sure, I’d agree with you. But as an Armour Ability? Definitely not.
> >
> > I beg to differ.Within the next week or two, when the TU is released, AC will be nerfed so that the user,when one shot is fired, becomes 100 per cent visible!
>
> Source?

They announced it at the panel at PAX. This should start right when they talk about it.

> > Active Camo is powerful enough as it is, it doesn’t need to be any stronger.
> >
> > If it was a pickup like Overshields, then sure, I’d agree with you. But as an Armour Ability? Definitely not.
>
> I beg to differ.Within the next week or two, when the TU is released, AC will be nerfed so that the user,when one shot is fired, becomes 100 per cent visible!

I know, which is a great thing if you ask me! Active Camo needs to use that nerf, so now people can’t just hide out in the open with a DMR and cross-map all the time.

> > > Active Camo is powerful enough as it is, it doesn’t need to be any stronger.
> > >
> > > If it was a pickup like Overshields, then sure, I’d agree with you. But as an Armour Ability? Definitely not.
> >
> > I beg to differ.Within the next week or two, when the TU is released, AC will be nerfed so that the user,when one shot is fired, becomes 100 per cent visible!
>
> I know, which is a great thing if you ask me! Active Camo needs to use that nerf, so now people can’t just hide out in the open with a DMR and cross-map all the time.

I totally agree. Camo has been OP since Reach. This will make it slightly more balanced. It still shouldn’t have been an AA, though.

> They announced it at the panel at PAX. This should start right when they talk about it.

Just took me to the beginning of the video, but it’s cool. I found an article confirming it. I think it’s great though. Just one more thing to be happy about coming out of PAX, a good old AC nerf!

its not as though it lasts that long any way its just that your invisible so how do they know your there really?

It’s perfectly fine with me I hate that armor ability and it’s already good enough. We still need to see you with our eyes, and we can pretty much figure out you’re there in the middle of all the white dots.

> > > Active Camo is powerful enough as it is, it doesn’t need to be any stronger.
> > >
> > > If it was a pickup like Overshields, then sure, I’d agree with you. But as an Armour Ability? Definitely not.
> >
> > I beg to differ.Within the next week or two, when the TU is released, AC will be nerfed so that the user,when one shot is fired, becomes 100 per cent visible!
>
> Source?

They announced it at the PAX that they will nerf it in the next title update. And I really sure do hate AC.

So I’m new to forum what are you referring to when you say ac

cloak should mean invisible period anyone who think other wise is in a fantasy world that don’t make sense.

> cloak should mean invisible period anyone who think other wise is in a fantasy world that don’t make sense.

The ability to cloak to begin with is a fantasy. Also if you really need me to rationalize it for you, perhaps the cloak is only a superficial way of hiding, and the reticule turning red is the product of a heat sensor.

Either way game design should consider balance before “realism.”

As for what AC means, I’ll give you a hint: it’s the first two words in the first comment on this thread.

I’d have been satisfied if they just reduced the time you can stay in AC. On the odd occasion I use AC, it always feels like it is a little too long that you can stay invisible.

Anyway, the new TU is at least trying to appease the AC haters.

The only thing they did wrong with Cloak was that when you fire it should knock you out of the cloak completely and start the AA recharge. Also the cloak recharge time should be longer.

> So I’m new to forum what are you referring to when you say ac

AC stands for Active Camo.
AA stands for Armour Ability

As for the topic, I find AC hard to see when they’re standing still anyway, so the visibility when they shoot is a welcome change to me, as for them showing up on radar it’s okay as it is, you can generally use the dots to find the enemy

If it were up to me, AC would actually deplete your shields over time. When you break from AC you’re vulnerable for a second or two before shield recharge kicks in.

I don’t like AAs but if we’re stck with them I think they should be limited to support functionality. Using the hardlight shield to protect a flag carrier for example, or using AC to sneak into a base. Auto sentry to help defend/secure a hill.

IMO AAs should be used to help you stay alive in tough spots, not help you score cheap kills.

Camping with Active Camo and that perk that allows total invisibility is the most inequitable and demeaning play-style, especially considering Promethean Vision was supposed to fix this camping problem. Not to mention when you find the player in Active Camo your Aim Assist doesn’t work and your reticle doesn’t register. It should be taken out of Flood mode as well.

Thanks to 343 for nerfing it.