To start off, I know the state of DLC and bonuses is a very controversial issue. There have been many cases in the last few years of ripping costumers of by sanctioning part of the game that was completed as DLC. I was really worried that Microsoft and 343 would fall into this trap due to the past mishandling of DLC in Halo 4. This time, I believe they got it right with the free maps and pre-order bonuses not exclusive to any retailer. The micro-transactions being an optional feature and designed in a way that is not a Pay to Win type of game allows us to breath a sigh of relief.
I bring this up because Square Enix and Eidos Montreal have probably done one of the greediest things I have seen with a game’s extra content with the latest Dues Ex trailer down below…
(For those of you who wouldn’t or didn’t want to click the link, the like/dislikes at the time of the page refresh count is at 414 likes and 29,024 dislikes. A 0.014% approval assuming the video doesn’t get retracted or likes/dislikes and comments disabled.)
Yes, you guys just saw that. There is a tiered pre-order system for the latest Dues Ex game. Of which should orders cross a certain threshold, will release the game four days early! That is absurd. The publisher is begging you to place an order for a game or you will not get the exclusive content (That should have been in the game!) and the game gets out four days latter. This may cause irreversible damage to the game of Dues Ex: Mankind Divided. No matter how good the game could be, the nonsense will cause a massive bias of negativity due to the “pre-order package”.
I can say we as a community dodged a bullet and reflected a rocket with a Gravity Hammer!
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> To start off, I know the state of DLC and bonuses is a very controversial issue. There have been many cases in the last few years of ripping costumers of by sanctioning part of the game that was completed as DLC. I was really worried that Microsoft and 343 would fall into this trap due to the past mishandling of DLC in Halo 4. This time, I believe they got it right with the free maps and pre-order bonuses not exclusive to any retailer. The micro-transactions being an optional feature and designed in a way that is not a Pay to Win type of game allows us to breath a sigh of relief.
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> I bring this up because Square Enix and Eidos Montreal have probably done one of the greediest things I have seen with a game’s extra content with the latest Dues Ex trailer down below…
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> look at this and collectively gasp in terror!
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> (For those of you who wouldn’t or didn’t want to click the link, the like/dislikes at the time of the page refresh count is at 414 likes and 29,024 dislikes. A 0.014% approval assuming the video doesn’t get retracted or likes/dislikes and comments disabled.)
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> Yes, you guys just saw that. There is a tiered pre-order system for the latest Dues Ex game. Of which should orders cross a certain threshold, will release the game four days early! That is absurd. The publisher is begging you to place an order for a game or you will not get the exclusive content (That should have been in the game!) and the game gets out four days latter. This may cause irreversible damage to the game of Dues Ex: Mankind Divided. No matter how good the game could be, the nonsense will cause a massive bias of negativity due to the “pre-order package”.
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> I can say we as a community dodged a bullet and reflected a rocket with a Gravity Hammer!
I can definitely agree with you. I think its the smartest decision they have ever done.
What a disgrace, that’s gotta be the lowest of the low right there. This really scares me, if square enix is doing this -Yoink- then you sure as hell other developers will soon follow. Just like when they first introduced season passes I think it was Gears of war 3 to do it I believe, and what did every other developer start doing with their DLC after that? Exactly.
Those mother -Yoinking- Season passes. Ugh why can’t we just pay for a game and buy expansions to the game, like Bethesda quality. I got the Arkham Knight season pass as my way to support Rocksteady’s last Batman game, and I have not gotten anything worthwhile from that purchase. Thank you 343 for lessening my stress with your free dlc.
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> > And people keep telling me I’m crazy when I say pre-ordering games enables this kind of crap. -_-
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> B-but it doesn’t actually have any influence, <mark>you’re just a hater</mark>!
Yes, but I think it is really Square Enix doing. Think about it. they need the money. Final Fantasy has been having diminishing returns with the FF-XIII trilogy with an MMO that is one of the biggest financial catastrophes in gaming. This gives such a huge burden on Final Fantasy 15 to get it right. A lot of other IPs are not being used. Forcing them to rely on remixes and remakes ( KH 1.5 & 2.5 not to mention FF7 remake).
Ever Since 2011 after the release of Dues Ex: Human Revolution, Eidos have been the victim of executive meddling. With disaster of games Hitman Absolution and Thief 4 selling low and getting mediocre reviews. I have to wonder if Square Enix is acting like Activison and EA in regards to how they treat their gaming divisions.
Hopefully this means 343 will support the DLC for the rest of the games life since it was very disappointing that H3 had compulsory DLC to play in the basic playlists (as in I had to buy all the DLC even to play in social in 2010) but Reach and H4 dumped the DLC centric playlists early on leaving people to go and say its not worth getting the DLC since it wont show up.
So, hopefully it changes with H5, having an exclusive month of a DLC playlist, then rotated into all playlists and required to play in those playlists or its a content update (like the ODST update that came with the H2A Remnant) and everyone gets it regardless of them wanting it or not (and if they really don’t want it, then no more MM for them).
I don’t really want to mention Deus Ex so I will just say that I hope that all future subsequent Halo games follow Halo 5’s model in DLC and Microtransactions.
I started a topic a while ago stating that I hoped they didn’t advertise or promote DLC/Season Pass before the game’s even released (ie Arkham Knight, Evolve) and I’m so glad they’ve done it the way they have.
Uncharted 4 & Fallout 4 have both started to advertise DLC & Season Passes already, and it just creates unnecessary negativity in the build up to the game’s release.
It appears 343 is one developer that understands this.
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> And people keep telling me I’m crazy when I say pre-ordering games enables this kind of crap. -_-
I wouldn’t say pre-ordering enables that, but having such a complex tiered system that could release the game a whole four days early does seem like a gimmick to gurantee purchases.
I thought Halo 4 had a bad pre-order bonus mess, but I think Deus Ex takes the cake.
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> That video has so many dislikes… It’s… wow!
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> I think we can give a thumbs up for 343i for not doing this sort of thing. I like the way they’re doing pre-order bonuses now.
Praising someone for not being terrible is setting the bar pretty low.
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> > That video has so many dislikes… It’s… wow!
> > I think we can give a thumbs up for 343i for not doing this sort of thing. I like the way they’re doing pre-order bonuses now.
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> Praising someone for not being terrible is setting the bar pretty low.
More like being thankful they’re not doing the same thing or worse. But if being happy that 343’s not going to do with Halo 5 what Bungie’s doing with Destiny in terms of DLC (as an example) is such a negative thing, then oh well.
