Give 343 A Chance

Halo 5 is supposed to be about change. All the Halo fans out there, I once felt your similar pain. I once thought that Halo 5 was going to wreck the series, that Halo 5 was going to be the worse Halo game. But I read something about 343i. The comment said that 343 is simply trying to make Halo next generation. Sure, it may or may not have four player split screen, or your common No Scope Assault Rifle, but does that mean the game is going to be bad? Here is my answer.

No.

343 have been hard at work with Halo 5, and they are still a newer company, I mean, they have only come out with a few Halo games, one of the bigger ones obviously being Halo 4. And I do know that it lost a major amount of players. But that may or may not have been for Halo reasons. Who knows, maybe someone accidentally wrecked their Xbox while playing the game and it took them a month or two, maybe longer to get it back? Not everything is on 343i’s side. Sometimes, the player can make the wrong choice about what they play.

As a proud Halo fangirl, I did get irritated in the beginning when they introduced us with the Thruster that used to be an armor ability that is now currently in your Default Controller Scheme. But, after looking at opinions towards Halo 5, some good and some bad, I started to feel really bad about the hate that 343i was getting. In fact, I nearly wanted to shout at everyone who said something bad. And I mean bad, not Constructive Criticism that the good players give to the new owners of Halo.

After doing some more research on the Halo 5 topic, I am curious about the story and how that goes. Will Cortana come back? Is the Didact still alive? How big of a role does Agent Locke play with the Chief? Why is Chief upside down on the cover with Locke on top? Why is it called Guardians, like Destiny? All these questions to be answered but only discovered on the day of release. Nothing we can do about these interesting topics other than bring together clues about why or how the answers to these are possible.

So the Multiplayer for this game is rather set. Thrusters, slight parkour, new Smart Scoping, all of this stuff just to make Halo the more modern, next generation game that it needs to be to set itself a good spot in the shelves. And I used to think it was all stupid. I did, I really did. But when I played the game, it felt like something, not what the players did, I didn’t feel like I was a floating character above the map, just with some cute animations. I felt like I was a Spartan. The way the game is meant to be played.

Sure, people have been complaining about the ending graphics, and how they don’t like the Spartans in-game voices telling you, “Hey, nice headshot!” or “Thanks for the assist,” and total crap like that. But to me, it makes the characters around to feel more… alive. They aren’t walking, silent bones not noticing what your Spartan does on the field. The ending graphics make sense, guys! Maybe Master Chief wouldn’t clap hands with everyone in the end of a fight, but that’s Master Chief, the silent, Lone Wolf Spartan. Think about Kelly-087 from the Halo comics/novels. She has a big sense of humor and she often cracks many jokes with her team about their mission or their current position. This end graphics when you win the match really bring out the hidden human that the Spartans have. It’s a good thing. And the characters telling you about nice grenade kills, well this encourages you as you play, even if you find it annoying and distracting, it gives players like me the urge to fight better, just so our Spartans can be complimented by the other team members. Tell me, did it not make you happy when the headshot came by your Battle Rifle and the Spartan next to you told you well done?

Yes, I know that some of the weapons in this game are a little powerful, like the Battle Rifle, but they may get debuffed and ready for a fair game when the full release comes around. This is the Beta version of the game Halo 5, not the full, complete, ready-for-action version that you hope and picture for in your mind. This game nearly has a year before the actual release. Bugs, glitches, op weapons will all be fixed. And the Battle Rifle starts, I am pretty sure that is limited to a few maps and only on a trial version at the moment. Not the full thing.

The REAL Halo fans would be noticing the change, accepting the change, and moving with the change. As Halo Evolvers, we have been here since CE and all the way to the MCC. And we have noticed change already. Sprint was added, SMGs were taken away in a few games, maybe just Halo: Reach and Halo 4, the gameplay runs differently, the graphics are better, the story gets better as it goes on, and new, awesome Spartan abilities were added in Halo 5. That was just big change, and the newer Halo fans were not ready for that approach.

If you are a real Halo fan, you would agree with me, maybe with a few flaws. Sure, you don’t have to like Halo 5, just accept that its a TRUE Halo game! And the Halo series will always be Halo unless you make it another game series, like Call of Duty. Halo brothers and sisters, accept the change, and give 343 a chance. Just give the a better shot than you gave them Halo 4, and maybe this will be an even better Halo game than 4 was…

343i has already had two chances, Halo 4 and MCC. While I enjoyed halo 4 the MCC was an absolute travesty. That monumental failure not only put Halo closer to the grave but the Xbox One itself as well. I’ve never seen such incompetence from an in house studio the likes of this. It’s like they didn’t know how important MCC was to the success of the X1.
I’m sure the riot act was well and truly read to each and every individual at 343i (am I right Bill?) so indeed we should give them a chance, but I’ll bet it’s their last.

Real Halo fans would be accepting change… Just because you’re a fan doesn’t mean you have to blindly accept everything. It’s like you’re a fan of some sports star or whatever is popular… and then you find out, he cheated and used steroids/ beat his wife/ killed a person. Are you still going to be like if you’re a true fan you would follow him to the end… Stupidest logic I ever heard. I played Halo 1-3 extensively, and I loved it because it had a certain magic to it. You take away the magic I’m not going to be lke great, as long as "Halo " is still in the title, I’m with you till the end. Kinda stupid logic is that…

Halo 4 was a abomination, and Halo MCC was a failure, and they even lied when they said they were bringing back the original Halo 2 like it was launched on Xbox, cause they went the easy route and ported the Halo 2 PC VERSION. 343 is a POS.

If anything, you’re a REAL fan, if you stick to the original reason of what made you a fan of something in the FIRST place. I’m a Coca Cola, they changed the entire formula,now it tastes like -Yoink-, and looks green, and I’m suppose to okay. I’m still a fan, because it still has the name Coca Cola in it.

Halo 4 releases

“give 343 a chance”

Halo MCC releases

“give 343 a chance”

Halo 5 Beta releases

“give 343 a chance”

I’m not too keen on giving them any more chances after they mucked it up 3 times in a row.

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> Halo 4 releases
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> “give 343 a chance”
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> Halo MCC releases
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> “give 343 a chance”
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> Halo 5 Beta releases
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> “give 343 a chance”
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> I’m not too keen on giving them any more chances after they mucked it up 3 times in a row.

to be fair is was most likely Microsoft that demanded the MCC… It was a nice thought, but to have a proper release would have meant a 2015 release, wich would have ment halo5 in 2016… Or a halo4 clone in 2015… Yeah, the collection failed catastrophically, and Im sure they are fine with that if it means halo5 wont

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> Real Halo fans would be accepting change… Just because you’re a fan doesn’t mean you have to blindly accept everything. It’s like you’re a fan of some sports star or whatever is popular… and then you find out, he cheated and used steroids/ beat his wife/ killed a person. Are you still going to be like if you’re a true fan you would follow him to the end… Stupidest logic I ever heard. I played Halo 1-3 extensively, and I loved it because it had a certain magic to it. You take away the magic I’m not going to be lke great, as long as "Halo " is still in the title, I’m with you till the end. Kinda stupid logic is that…
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> Halo 4 was a abomination, and Halo MCC was a failure, and they even lied when they said they were bringing back the original Halo 2 like it was launched on Xbox, cause they went the easy route and ported the Halo 2 PC VERSION. 343 is a POS.
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> If anything, you’re a REAL fan, if you stick to the original reason of what made you a fan of something in the FIRST place. I’m a Coca Cola, they changed the entire formula,now it tastes like -Yoink-, and looks green, and I’m suppose to okay. I’m still a fan, because it still has the name Coca Cola in it.

I’m not saying that since Halo is in the title, I will be a Halo Follower. Not at all what I said. I said that no matter what, it’s still a Halo game, even if people are having a hard time reading that. Sorry that Halo 5 wasn’t too great for you. Sorry that you like Bungie’s Halo and cannot keep yourself ahead with the rest. If you were an actual Halo fan, you would see that they are at least attempting. And I said that it did have flaws as well. No flame, bro.

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> 343i has already had two chances, Halo 4 and MCC. While I enjoyed halo 4 the MCC was an absolute travesty. That monumental failure not only put Halo closer to the grave but the Xbox One itself as well. I’ve never seen such incompetence from an in house studio the likes of this. It’s like they didn’t know how important MCC was to the success of the X1.
> I’m sure the riot act was well and truly read to each and every individual at 343i (am I right Bill?) so indeed we should give them a chance, but I’ll bet it’s their last.

Yes, this will be 343i’s last stand. If they fail this, well, as a Halo gamer for even this long, I might need to let go of it as well. I loved Halo 4, I thought the gameplay was fine, I really didn’t like the MCC Collection well because of the disorganized, weird gameplay/load crap, and I totally agree with you. I was just make a point. They did have a chance with the two games, but Microsoft demanded MCC… It wasn’t much of a Halo Creator Idea, if you are completely getting what I mean.

I agree 100% Thunder. Nice post btw!

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> Halo 4 releases
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> “give 343 a chance”
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> Halo MCC releases
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> “give 343 a chance”
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> Halo 5 Beta releases
>
> “give 343 a chance”
>
> I’m not too keen on giving them any more chances after they mucked it up 3 times in a row.

You are totally right. MCC was a fail, with multiplayer lag and disorganization, stuff like that. But this is 343i last chance. They -yoink- it up now, and I might even trash this game as well.

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> I agree 100% Thunder. Nice post btw!

At least someone here actually sees that. Thanks, luv. <3

Here is the problem:

They had a chance to change Halo with Halo 4, didn’t do it and -Yoinked!- it all up. Multiplayer was broken as hell and lagging so hard

They completely botched the released of MCC and it is still broken.

They have already had 2 chances and their third is literally a Halo skinned version of CoD.

343 had their chances, 3 of them, and all were disasters and complete garbage.

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> Real Halo fans would be accepting change… Just because you’re a fan doesn’t mean you have to blindly accept everything. It’s like you’re a fan of some sports star or whatever is popular… and then you find out, he cheated and used steroids/ beat his wife/ killed a person. Are you still going to be like if you’re a true fan you would follow him to the end… Stupidest logic I ever heard. I played Halo 1-3 extensively, and I loved it because it had a certain magic to it. You take away the magic I’m not going to be lke great, as long as "Halo " is still in the title, I’m with you till the end. Kinda stupid logic is that…
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> Halo 4 was a abomination, and Halo MCC was a failure, and they even lied when they said they were bringing back the original Halo 2 like it was launched on Xbox, cause they went the easy route and ported the Halo 2 PC VERSION. 343 is a POS.
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> If anything, you’re a REAL fan, if you stick to the original reason of what made you a fan of something in the FIRST place. I’m a Coca Cola, they changed the entire formula,now it tastes like -Yoink-, and looks green, and I’m suppose to okay. I’m still a fan, because it still has the name Coca Cola in it.

Whoa. Hold on. How does not liking the way a garbage company is taking a franchise make someone like me, someone that has owned thousands of dollars of Halo merchandise and been playing since day one, not a fan? Explain, because what you say is as garbage as 343.

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I know you disagree with my acceptance of the Halo change, and I know I never asked anyone to agree, so you have the right to question me, but this is a good point. Just because I like the change does not mean that I am not a Halo fan. A true Halo fan leaving the series just because someone now owns the Halo Household sounds like a really -yoink- statement if you asked me.

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> > 343i has already had two chances, Halo 4 and MCC. While I enjoyed halo 4 the MCC was an absolute travesty. That monumental failure not only put Halo closer to the grave but the Xbox One itself as well. I’ve never seen such incompetence from an in house studio the likes of this. It’s like they didn’t know how important MCC was to the success of the X1.
> > I’m sure the riot act was well and truly read to each and every individual at 343i (am I right Bill?) so indeed we should give them a chance, but I’ll bet it’s their last.
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> Yes, this will be 343i’s last stand. If they fail this, well, as a Halo gamer for even this long, I might need to let go of it as well. I loved Halo 4, I thought the gameplay was fine, I really didn’t like the MCC Collection well because of the disorganized, weird gameplay/load crap, and I totally agree with you. I was just make a point. They did have a chance with the two games, but Microsoft demanded MCC… It wasn’t much of a Halo Creator Idea, if you are completely getting what I mean.

I totally get where you’re coming from, but my point is that my confidence in 343 releasing a functioning game is approaching zero. They could make the perfect Halo but if you can’t connect to servers or if lag makes it unplayable then it’s all for naught.

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> Halo 4 releases
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> “give 343 a chance”
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> Halo MCC releases
>
> “give 343 a chance”
>
> Halo 5 Beta releases
>
> “give 343 a chance”
>
> I’m not too keen on giving them any more chances after they mucked it up 3 times in a row.

My personal experience was more like

“oh no, Bungie are leaving and Reach has major issues, no more Halo” sadface

Here are 343i

“Yay a new dev to make more and yay that updated Reach, cant wait for more”

Here’s Halo 4 preview with loadouts and unlockables

“No don’t do that it will ruin the basics”

343- “trust us guys, we know what we’re doing”

“ok, but I still don’t like the idea”

Halo 4 releases

“where is matchmaking, wait where’s the community gone?”

Sorry about Halo 4 here’s Halo MCC, with work multiplayer for all.

“Where’s Reach?, oh well. I’m so excited. Or would be if my friends could join, or I could even join a game. Why did I wait all those hours for the download to sit here. Why is it still not fixed”

Guys we’re sorry, look at Halo 5 it has equal starts like you wanted and also this cool sh* for extra brogasims.

“Sprint and ground pound sound bad”

Halo 5 beta is twitchtastic.

>.>

I’m just not surprised anymore. 343i are lucky they sold these games off the back of the Halo brand because they did nothing since Reach to cultivate trust or community. Any other dev and franchise would have died by now. The fans they draw in do not support their games in the long run and the one game that fans asked for they butchered with bad management.

After Halo 5 comes we will be told to give Halo 6 a chance but by then it will be very different faces around in both the community and 343i.

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> > > 343i has already had two chances, Halo 4 and MCC. While I enjoyed halo 4 the MCC was an absolute travesty. That monumental failure not only put Halo closer to the grave but the Xbox One itself as well. I’ve never seen such incompetence from an in house studio the likes of this. It’s like they didn’t know how important MCC was to the success of the X1.
> > > I’m sure the riot act was well and truly read to each and every individual at 343i (am I right Bill?) so indeed we should give them a chance, but I’ll bet it’s their last.
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> > Yes, this will be 343i’s last stand. If they fail this, well, as a Halo gamer for even this long, I might need to let go of it as well. I loved Halo 4, I thought the gameplay was fine, I really didn’t like the MCC Collection well because of the disorganized, weird gameplay/load crap, and I totally agree with you. I was just make a point. They did have a chance with the two games, but Microsoft demanded MCC… It wasn’t much of a Halo Creator Idea, if you are completely getting what I mean.
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> I totally get where you’re coming from, but my point is that my confidence in 343 releasing a functioning game is approaching zero. They could make the perfect Halo but if you can’t connect to servers or if lag makes it unplayable then it’s all for naught.

I get you, dude. 343i servers are really crappy. Like I said before, I agree with you, and I am just making the original post so that people can have a clear mind when the actual release comes out. For all I know, the servers are already bad. We don’t even know what the story will be like. This is my last reach for Halo before it all ends. And this is all based on what I felt in the Beta. Nothing about being “too loyal.” I already said in the original post that you don’t have to like the newest Halo games, just accept that as Halo. I will most likely stay on Reach because that, my friend, was a good Halo game.

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> 343 have been hard at work with Halo 5, and they are still a newer company, I mean, they have only come out with a few Halo games, one of the bigger ones obviously being Halo 4. And I do know that it lost a major amount of players. But that may or may not have been for Halo reasons. Who knows, maybe someone accidentally wrecked their Xbox while playing the game and it took them a month or two, maybe longer to get it back? Not everything is on 343i’s side. Sometimes, the player can make the wrong choice about what they play.

Wow! Are you serious? You should be a comedian! :]The numbers speaks of themselves. Halo 4 was horrible and not fun to play. It got boring very fast.

343 has shown multiple times that they just dont get it.
Halo 4 was, as I said, horrible. MCC doesnt even work months after release. The H5 beta experience have some of the same problems that MCC has; sometimes you spend more time in the lobby than in the actual game.
And youre telling me to give 343 another chance? Well, I love Halo, but H5 isnt looking promising at all. Maybe I’ll buy it… who knows, but Im 100% sure I aint pre-ordering another game from 343 ever again. And Im not buying H5 if MCC isnt fixed in the near future either.

Peace

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> > 343 have been hard at work with Halo 5, and they are still a newer company, I mean, they have only come out with a few Halo games, one of the bigger ones obviously being Halo 4. And I do know that it lost a major amount of players. But that may or may not have been for Halo reasons. Who knows, maybe someone accidentally wrecked their Xbox while playing the game and it took them a month or two, maybe longer to get it back? Not everything is on 343i’s side. Sometimes, the player can make the wrong choice about what they play.
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> Wow! Are you serious? You should be a comedian! :]The numbers speaks of themselves. Halo 4 was horrible and not fun to play. It got boring very fast.
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> 343 has shown multiple times that they just dont get it.
> Halo 4 was, as I said, horrible. MCC doesnt even work months after release. The H5 beta experience have some of the same problems that MCC has; sometimes you spend more time in the lobby than in the actual game.
> And youre telling me to give 343 another chance? Well, I love Halo, but H5 isnt looking promising at all. Maybe I’ll buy it… who knows, but Im 100% sure I aint pre-ordering another game from 343 ever again. And Im not buying H5 if MCC isnt fixed in the near future either.
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> Peace

Uh, is that first bit sarcasm? I sort of hate MCC, and I really want it to start getting upgraded, still not sure I’ll even buy Halo 5, but like I said in previous posts, this is going to be 343i’s last stand. They mess it up, most of the Halo fans will be gone. Including me. I’m just a Halo believer, who is hanging on a Halo thread right now, hoping that this is going to bring the game back to life. In ONE year, all the other Halo games multiplayer will be gone since Xbox Live is closing down on the Xbox 360, and then Local only options will be our only chance. So if we trash Halo know, guess what that means?

We have no -yoinking- Halo multiplayer left to play on the better Halo games.

Make sense?

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> > > 343 have been hard at work with Halo 5, and they are still a newer company, I mean, they have only come out with a few Halo games, one of the bigger ones obviously being Halo 4. And I do know that it lost a major amount of players. But that may or may not have been for Halo reasons. Who knows, maybe someone accidentally wrecked their Xbox while playing the game and it took them a month or two, maybe longer to get it back? Not everything is on 343i’s side. Sometimes, the player can make the wrong choice about what they play.
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> > Wow! Are you serious? You should be a comedian! :]The numbers speaks of themselves. Halo 4 was horrible and not fun to play. It got boring very fast.
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> > 343 has shown multiple times that they just dont get it.
> > Halo 4 was, as I said, horrible. MCC doesnt even work months after release. The H5 beta experience have some of the same problems that MCC has; sometimes you spend more time in the lobby than in the actual game.
> > And youre telling me to give 343 another chance? Well, I love Halo, but H5 isnt looking promising at all. Maybe I’ll buy it… who knows, but Im 100% sure I aint pre-ordering another game from 343 ever again. And Im not buying H5 if MCC isnt fixed in the near future either.
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> > Peace
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> Uh, is that first bit sarcasm? I sort of hate MCC, and I really want it to start getting upgraded, still not sure I’ll even buy Halo 5, but like I said in previous posts, this is going to be 343i’s last stand. They mess it up, most of the Halo fans will be gone. Including me. I’m just a Halo believer, who is hanging on a Halo thread right now, hoping that this is going to bring the game back to life. In ONE year, all the other Halo games multiplayer will be gone since Xbox Live is closing down on the Xbox 360, and then Local only options will be our only chance. So if we trash Halo know, guess what that means?
>
> We have no -yoinking- Halo multiplayer left to play on the better Halo games.
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> Make sense?

This be the first time I’m hearing of any 360 live closure arrr.

360 Destiny players shall be peeeeeeved.

Too many games require live to function at any where near their intended level. Also as long as 360 is being sold, as it currently is, and games and DLC are being sold then it would be a bad idea to take it down.

Anyhoo, I’ve seen people leave because of Halo 4 and even more because of MCC. 343i’s chance with the majority of the actual Halo community. The ones that played every game for 3 years straight. What is left are the very hopeful, the blissfully unaware, and casual first month fans.

We GAVE 343 a chance…it was called halo 4.

just saying