Gentlemen....This Is Important [READ]

I am a hardcore halo fan, I own every book, I’ve played and beaten every game, and I played the first halo on the xbox when I was 4. I know what Im talking about here. Now you see folks, I am the type of person who calls halo “my game”. Why? Because it was the first xbox game I played, its what led me to buy an xbox 360, and its what inspires me to persue a profession in game developing.

My fellow Halo fans, we are faceing a grave threat. Many people are leaving and jumping on the bandwaggon of haters that flame a game that isnt even out yet. I would like you to take a look at the first 10 seconds of the “Making of” ViDoc. What does it say? It says “Subject to change” do you know what that means? DO ANY OF YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS? It means that some of what we hear right now is perminant. Names are just place holders and certan things can be taken out. 343I does listen to us. Frankie is working HIS -Yoink- off right now to try to make US happy. 343 loves us, why dont we show them that we care too.

Guys,
We must not let any of this new info stop us from playing a game we love.
We must say “You’ll be sorry” to every troll bailing out on the game before its release
We must take all leaked info with a grain of salt
We must be thankful that 343i is continuing this epic saga and taking it to new heights
WE MUST…save Halo

TL;DR: READ THE DAMN POST, ITS IMPORTANT

> “Subject to change”

Right now, I hope almost everything leaked will be changed.

> > “Subject to change”
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> Right now, I hope almost everything leaked will be changed.

Why, you scared of change? You want it to be like Halo 2 or 3? Then don’t buy it, and instead go play those games, and don’t whine that Halo 2’s MP is gone. Deal with it, and buy Halo 4 if you want or don’t. It will be better if it is populated with those whoe enjoy it, not those who bashed it 8 months before release.

And for those who say it’s like CoD, it’s not, or else Halo would have been the exact same game for 5 years. Now who wants that?

> > “Subject to change”
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> Right now, I hope almost everything leaked will be changed.

Agree

so they can change this entire game in under a year?
im sorry but the leaked info being true nearly brought me to tears

Haters gonna hate >_<

Personally, I hope only a few things change. I’m excited for Halo 4 :slight_smile:

Edited by Moderator - Please do not flame/attack others.

*Original post, click at your own discretion.

> > > “Subject to change”
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> > Right now, I hope almost everything leaked will be changed.
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> Why, you scared of change? You want it to be like Halo 2 or 3? Then don’t buy it, and instead go play those games, and don’t whine that Halo 2’s MP is gone. Deal with it, and buy Halo 4 if you want or don’t. It will be better if it is populated with those whoe enjoy it, not those who bashed it 8 months before release.
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> And for those who say it’s like CoD, it’s not, or else Halo would have been the exact same game for 5 years. Now who wants that?

who wants that you ask? 90% of this community… the other 10 percent = cancer

> Haters gonna hate >_<
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> Personally, I hope only a few things change. I’m excited for Halo 4 :slight_smile:

I really hope they change their minds about about elites in multiplayer. If I could play as an elite, I’d be so happy and my view of 343 would change.

> > > “Subject to change”
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> > Right now, I hope almost everything leaked will be changed.
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> Why, you scared of change? You want it to be like Halo 2 or 3? Then don’t buy it, and instead go play those games, and don’t whine that Halo 2’s MP is gone. Deal with it, and buy Halo 4 if you want or don’t. It will be better if it is populated with those whoe enjoy it, not those who bashed it 8 months before release.
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> And for those who say it’s like CoD, it’s not, or else Halo would have been the exact same game for 5 years. Now who wants that?

I’m sorry sir, I do not believe you understand. Core gameplay ties a series together. I don’t hate change, rather, I love it. The changes made from CE to 2 to 3 were fine. However, screwing core gameplay is not a good change, and immitating another series is not good change.

> > > “Subject to change”
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> > Right now, I hope almost everything leaked will be changed.
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> Why, you scared of change?

It’s not a matter of whether things will be changed or not but what are the changes themselves. Take for instance, I tell you I’m going to make you some pudding. I tell you its chocolate pudding but I’m going to make a few changes. Now already you have an idea of what chocolate pudding tastes like and, for the sake of argument, you like it. You enjoy chocolate pudding and are welcome to small changes. Now say I tell you I’m adding fish, ghost peppers, and lemons to the chocolate pudding. Suddenly that pudding is taking a drastic turn. These are things you never asked for and never even considered in your pudding, but you should still eat it lest you be afraid of a few changes. That’s what it feels like. There are some, for lack of a better work, stupid changes being made to halo 4 and that’s evident by the reaction here on these forums.

All this seems so familiar…

O wait, everyone lost their -Yoink- when Halo:Reach was being revealed. Now look how that turned out.

Protip: You haven’t played the game and you don’t know that you wont enjoy it, so stop complaining.

> > > > “Subject to change”
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> > > Right now, I hope almost everything leaked will be changed.
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> > Why, you scared of change? You want it to be like Halo 2 or 3? Then don’t buy it, and instead go play those games, and don’t whine that Halo 2’s MP is gone. Deal with it, and buy Halo 4 if you want or don’t. It will be better if it is populated with those whoe enjoy it, not those who bashed it 8 months before release.
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> > And for those who say it’s like CoD, it’s not, or else Halo would have been the exact same game for 5 years. Now who wants that?
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> who wants that you ask? 90% of this community… the other 10 percent = cancer

Like I said, this isn’t Call of Duty. Changes should be made. I don’t want to buy a game that is just like another one in the series. I’ll probably never buy another CoD again. However, Halo is a new, fresh experience every time, and you never have that feeling that you have already played this game before when you get a new Halo. I don’t mind it sharing attributes of Halo 3, I don’t want it to BE Halo 3. I’ve played that, and I’m not gonna spend $60 on a game I already have. I love to see change in a game and I love what 343i is doing to Halo. I will be playing Halo 4 at the end of this year, while you will still be on the forums complaining about the game and not moving on in life.

> > > > “Subject to change”
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> > > Right now, I hope almost everything leaked will be changed.
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> > Why, you scared of change?
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> It’s not a matter of whether things will be changed or not but what are the changes themselves. Take for instance, I tell you I’m going to make you some pudding. I tell you its chocolate pudding but I’m going to make a few changes. Now already you have an idea of what chocolate pudding tastes like and, for the sake of argument, you like it. You enjoy chocolate pudding and are welcome to small changes. Now say I tell you I’m adding fish, ghost peppers, and lemons to the chocolate pudding. Suddenly that pudding is taking a drastic turn. These are things you never asked for and never even considered in your pudding, but you should still eat it lest you be afraid of a few changes. That’s what it feels like. There are some, for lack of a better work, stupid changes being made to halo 4 and that’s evident by the reaction here on these forums.

And there are still many who love the changes and can’t wait to play it. I’m not in denial, nor do I support the game simply because it is Halo. I support it because Halo has never disappointed me except for ODST, and it doesn’t sound or look disappointing, and so far, it doesn’t seem like it will.

> Protip: You haven’t played the game and you don’t know that you wont enjoy it, so stop complaining.

im not complaining

Can people just stop saying “if you don’t like it, then don’t buy it?” It is seriously so annoying… I think just about everyone here will buy it even if it is terrible. Besides, Halo is the only game I still play; if I don’t buy it, then I have to sell all of my Xbox stuff like my monitor and headset and everything…

Good evening, 343 and the greater Halo community. Allow me first to apologize for this interruption. I do, like many of you, understand how unfortunate this “leak” was, and 343i now stands in an odd position, with it mainstream gaming news on sites like IGN reporting on it, can it really be called a leak anymore? I understand that 343i had a contract at which they needed to adhere to, and to do so all they must do is remain silent, until the 10th. Giving us much time to rage and speculate, because if rumors are true, than Halo 4 spits in the face of the familiar security, we’ve come to expect from Halo games. Halo games that I enjoy as much as any bloke.

Now I have not delusions, there are those who of course do not want us to speak and most likely as you click on this thread, as you read its contents, men and woman, doing there job, and nothing more are being dispatched to silence me, to silence us. I only ask they pause for a moment and reconsider, for every opinion no matter how shrill or insignificant has the right to be stated. And that this focuses less on the content of the alleged leaked material, and more on the reason for its existence at all.

Now lets look at the state of Halo; Gimmicks, X to respawn, Random Weapon Drops, Armor Abilities, and of course the worst of the worst customizable load outs. I am proud of the efforts 343i has gone to make this game more appealing to a wider variety of people. People who might not have cared otherwise. However, this is an appalling way to go about it, and a betrayal to the core of your fan base, the only people mind you, that will still be playing when the next big thing comes out. But how did this happen? Who’s to blame? Well certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you’re looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror. The success of competitor games like COD, and BF almost assured this outcome. After all, 343i might spout the jargon of community, but at the end of the day nothing is free, they need to make a living as much as the next guy, and a core fan base, don’t pay the rent like it once did. Oh and I know vary well why you, the gamer did it. I know you were afraid. Who wouldn’t be? Persecuted because you stuck with Halo, as many of your friends went off to COD. There were a myriad of problems which conspired to corrupt your reason and rob you of your common sense. Fear got the best of you, and in your panic you turned to the now copy pasted COD, which has saturated the entire FPS market. It promised you order, it promised you peace, and all it demanded in return was your silent, obedient consent as it pulled the money year after year from your wallet. And like sheep you allowed it, and now the Shepard’s of Halo see mindless masses capitulating to the lack luster FPS COD, looked at their declining success, and looked to that for innovation, for what the 90 percentile want. Because believe me dear brothers and sisters, we are the minority, the 10 percent, they don’t care if we are hear year after year to buy their game, and these changes are in start contrast to what we as a community desire, they simply care that at one point or another millions of people buy it. A few 1000 isn’t significant at all.

And Halo isn’t the first to fall to this way of thinking, just one more shell of a game cast out to the masses, instead of the core. Online passes, day one DLC, pieces of games gutted and sold back to us, the CoDification of Halo is just one in a long line in a of miss steps by the gaming industry, because we the gamer allow it. Because its easier to believe don’t like don’t buy, because its simpler to just ignore the issues and move on to the next game never thinking about the ramifications that standing idly by and taking it with an open mouth brings, because its simpler to stand down and pay the money, they ask for instead of demanding what we paid for.

They don’t have the same excuses some other have to hide behind, there is no lack of artistic integrity, by giving your player base the multiplayer they want.

But only time will tell, as we grow ever closer to the precipice, the eventual collapse of the gaming industry, the collapse counsel manufactures are afraid of, so much so that they feverishly try and extend this life cycle long past its prime. Milking what they can before the fall. And we only have our selves to blame.

But back to the subject at hand, if Halo 4 is to disappoint, if this is not an optional vanilla, along side a plethora what the community wants. Than I ask you to join me brother and sisters on November 15 if plausible, a day in which we should be celebrating Halo’s legacy, to not give them the satisfaction of your participation online. Will it matter, maybe not, will 1000’s of other be there, sure, let them, but let 343I know that you will leave that day unmarked. In protest to what Halo has become.

I hate when people say that if I want halo 2 or 3 then to go play them .

Fact is, that no one can have fun playing those games because no one plays them anymore. It was fun playing with friends and playing good people.

OT: I agree that we should wait for more info before exploding . :slight_smile:

> so they can change this entire game in under a year?
> im sorry but the leaked info being true nearly brought me to tears

thats sad.

Before I say anything else, and by that I mean I may consider editing this post later, whatever you do OP, don’t get into the games industry. I’m in it. It sucks majorly, you don’t get to make the games you want to play, unless you want to go indie and make games of a lower quality, instead you have to do the bidding of corporations such as Microsoft to make a game to appeal to the highest bidder so to speak, unless you want to go hungry.

Edit: I give props to WikkedJoker for quoting V for Vendetta.