Genocide of an entire species

Since my first days on Halo 2, I have been an Elite… I was an Elite throughout Halo 3, and even though I couldn’t play as an Elite 24/7 in Reach, I attempted to… But now I hear that the Elites will be replaced in Halo 4’s multiplayer.

Are you serious? Why would you take away the Elites, 343? It’s only logical that Elites should still remain in Halo 4. For Pete’s sake, you’ll be even allying yourself with the Elites that don’t want to destroy the human race.

Spartans should be able to fight against and with Elites aboard the Infinity when they are training… Not just stick to killing other Spartans and the new enemies they’re replacing the Elites with in multiplayer. It is only logical that the Spartans get the best training they can get, which includes working with the Elites lead by the Arbiter, and fighting the Elites lead by Avu.

I know how everyone loves those Spartans… But seriously? There are vast amounts of players who would rather see the Elites stay in multiplayer.

Ask yourself this… If Spartans were taken out of Halo 4’s multiplayer and instead the Elites stayed, how angry do you think people would get?

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why not just add three playable species ?
spartans
elites
other ? any ideas

How about we save the genocide line for ACTUAL genocide, okay?

> How about we save the genocide line for ACTUAL genocide, okay?

Like the Prophets!

> How about we save the genocide line for ACTUAL genocide, okay?

Considering there is a large group of people who are devoted to Elites, they will be wiped out since Elites will no longer be playable… Sounds like genocide to me. All of those Elite clans that have existed since Halo 2…

And I’d totally be okay with having Elites, Spartans, and those weird looking things. But nope, gotta watch out for the Spartan fanboys.

Sanghelli

Spartans

Forerunners (Prometheans to be exact)

Three classes. So much potential for awesomeness…and bad hitboxes :P.

> > How about we save the genocide line for ACTUAL genocide, okay?
>
> Considering there is a large group of people who are devoted to Elites, they will be wiped out since Elites will no longer be playable… Sounds like genocide to me. All of those Elite clans that have existed since Halo 2…
>
> And I’d totally be okay with having Elites, Spartans, and those weird looking things. But nope, gotta watch out for the Spartan fanboys.

Except those who play as Elites aren’t being hunted down, slaughtered and persecuted for playing as Elites.

> Sanghelli
>
> Spartans
>
> Forerunners (Prometheans to be exact)
>
> Three classes. So much potential for awesomeness…and bad hitboxes :P.

Bungie made the hitbox for the Elites and Spartans to be exactly the same in Halo 3. It wouldn’t be impossible to do it again.

> Since my first days on Halo 2, I have been an Elite… I was an Elite throughout Halo 3, and even though I couldn’t play as an Elite 24/7 in Reach, I attempted to… But now I hear that the Elites will be replaced in Halo 4’s multiplayer.
>
> Are you serious? Why would you take away the Elites, 343? It’s only logical that Elites should still remain in Halo 4. For Pete’s sake, you’ll be even allying yourself with the Elites that don’t want to destroy the human race.
>
> Spartans should be able to fight against and with Elites aboard the Infinity when they are training… Not just stick to killing other Spartans and the new enemies they’re replacing the Elites with in multiplayer. It is only logical that the Spartans get the best training they can get, which includes working with the Elites lead by the Arbiter, and fighting the Elites lead by Avu.
>
> I know how everyone loves those Spartans… But seriously? There are vast amounts of players who would rather see the Elites stay in multiplayer.
>
> Ask yourself this… If Spartans were taken out of Halo 4’s multiplayer and instead the Elites stayed, how angry do you think people would get?

I understand where you’re coming from and I’m a fan of the Elites myself, but I am ok with no Elites in halo 4’s mp. Elites glitched the hitboxes in halo 3, so in that aspect I’m glad they’re gone. Frankie also said that fans of the Elites “will be pleasantly suprised”. Frankie has also hinted that the Arbiter might show up in spartan ops.

> > > How about we save the genocide line for ACTUAL genocide, okay?
> >
> > Considering there is a large group of people who are devoted to Elites, they will be wiped out since Elites will no longer be playable… Sounds like genocide to me. All of those Elite clans that have existed since Halo 2…
> >
> > And I’d totally be okay with having Elites, Spartans, and those weird looking things. But nope, gotta watch out for the Spartan fanboys.
>
> Except those who play as Elites aren’t being hunted down, slaughtered and persecuted for playing as Elites.

You mean to tell me that isn’t happening?! :stuck_out_tongue: C’mon… I’m just trying to get my point across that Elites shouldn’t be wiped from Halo’s multiplayer. They’ve been around for the majority of Halo games, I don’t see why they have to get rid of them now.

> > Since my first days on Halo 2, I have been an Elite… I was an Elite throughout Halo 3, and even though I couldn’t play as an Elite 24/7 in Reach, I attempted to… But now I hear that the Elites will be replaced in Halo 4’s multiplayer.
> >
> > Are you serious? Why would you take away the Elites, 343? It’s only logical that Elites should still remain in Halo 4. For Pete’s sake, you’ll be even allying yourself with the Elites that don’t want to destroy the human race.
> >
> > Spartans should be able to fight against and with Elites aboard the Infinity when they are training… Not just stick to killing other Spartans and the new enemies they’re replacing the Elites with in multiplayer. It is only logical that the Spartans get the best training they can get, which includes working with the Elites lead by the Arbiter, and fighting the Elites lead by Avu.
> >
> > I know how everyone loves those Spartans… But seriously? There are vast amounts of players who would rather see the Elites stay in multiplayer.
> >
> > Ask yourself this… If Spartans were taken out of Halo 4’s multiplayer and instead the Elites stayed, how angry do you think people would get?
>
> I understand where you’re coming from and I’m a fan of the Elites myself, but I am ok with no Elites in halo 4’s mp. Elites glitched the hitboxes in halo 3, so in that aspect I’m glad they’re gone. Frankie also said that fans of the Elites “will be pleasantly suprised”. Frankie has also hinted that the Arbiter might show up in spartan ops.

Oooooh. So we get to see the Arbiter! Big whoop… I want to fight for the Arbiter, not see him. And you need to knock it off with that hitbox crap. The hitboxes for Halo 3’s Spartans and Elites are exactly the same. Bungie confirmed it.

> > > > How about we save the genocide line for ACTUAL genocide, okay?
> > >
> > > Considering there is a large group of people who are devoted to Elites, they will be wiped out since Elites will no longer be playable… Sounds like genocide to me. All of those Elite clans that have existed since Halo 2…
> > >
> > > And I’d totally be okay with having Elites, Spartans, and those weird looking things. But nope, gotta watch out for the Spartan fanboys.
> >
> > Except those who play as Elites aren’t being hunted down, slaughtered and persecuted for playing as Elites.
>
> You mean to tell me that isn’t happening?! :stuck_out_tongue: C’mon… I’m just trying to get my point across that Elites shouldn’t be wiped from Halo’s multiplayer. They’ve been around for the majority of Halo games, I don’t see why they have to get rid of them now.

Then do so in a manner that isn’t insulting to people who suffer from REAL terror and distress DAILY for simply being who they are.

Yea It bugs me that they are removing the Elites.

> > How about we save the genocide line for ACTUAL genocide, okay?
>
> Considering there is a large group of people who are devoted to Elites, they will be wiped out since Elites will no longer be playable… Sounds like genocide to me. All of those Elite clans that have existed since Halo 2…
>
> And I’d totally be okay with having Elites, Spartans, and those weird looking things. But nope, gotta watch out for the Spartan fanboys.

large group of people devoted to elites are you serious? I don’t remember seeing maybe more than 1 elite per every 6 or 7 matches in halo 3. Look up the rwanda genocide and then you’ll understand what real genocide is

> Ask yourself this… If Spartans were taken out of Halo 4’s multiplayer and instead the Elites stayed, how angry do you think people would get?

A lot angrier than the people who want Elites in Halo 4 MP are. Sorry, but the majority of players play as Spartans when the choice is given.

> > > Since my first days on Halo 2, I have been an Elite… I was an Elite throughout Halo 3, and even though I couldn’t play as an Elite 24/7 in Reach, I attempted to… But now I hear that the Elites will be replaced in Halo 4’s multiplayer.
> > >
> > > Are you serious? Why would you take away the Elites, 343? It’s only logical that Elites should still remain in Halo 4. For Pete’s sake, you’ll be even allying yourself with the Elites that don’t want to destroy the human race.
> > >
> > > Spartans should be able to fight against and with Elites aboard the Infinity when they are training… Not just stick to killing other Spartans and the new enemies they’re replacing the Elites with in multiplayer. It is only logical that the Spartans get the best training they can get, which includes working with the Elites lead by the Arbiter, and fighting the Elites lead by Avu.
> > >
> > > I know how everyone loves those Spartans… But seriously? There are vast amounts of players who would rather see the Elites stay in multiplayer.
> > >
> > > Ask yourself this… If Spartans were taken out of Halo 4’s multiplayer and instead the Elites stayed, how angry do you think people would get?
> >
> > I understand where you’re coming from and I’m a fan of the Elites myself, but I am ok with no Elites in halo 4’s mp. Elites glitched the hitboxes in halo 3, so in that aspect I’m glad they’re gone. Frankie also said that fans of the Elites “will be pleasantly suprised”. Frankie has also hinted that the Arbiter might show up in spartan ops.
>
> Oooooh. So we get to see the Arbiter! Big whoop… I want to fight for the Arbiter, not see him. And you need to knock it off with that hitbox crap. The hitboxes for Halo 3’s Spartans and Elites are exactly the same. Bungie confirmed it.

That is why I said “glitched”…
And you sir need to calm down. I didn’t say we will only see the Arbiter in spartan ops, I said he might show up. That could mean in a cutscene, as an enemy, as an ally, or possibly as a playable character.
I am not a fanboy of either the spartans or the Elites, but you called spartans-users “fanboys” earlier. You sound like a fanboy yourself.

As long as they’re playable in at least one game mode, then I’ll be content.

Reach were the first game where you played as elites OP, the other Halos had you play as spartans during Halloween. However, when people got to play as real elites, with different weapons and traits and physics compared to spartans, people complained the elites were to good. They were nerfed from “elites” to “newbies”, and are a shame to their race…
Elites should either be elites, like in Reach during the beta, or not present at all. Playing as spartans with a different model, is pointless imo, you might just as well play as a spartan 4 and call yourself “mr elite”, same thing.

I agree OP.

And why can’t the just do this:

> why not just add three playable species ?
> spartans
> elites
> other ? any ideas

I like to play as an Elite from time to time but what if we get to play as forerunners this time. Would be a pretty awesome idea IMO.