Games are ended on "Points" not Kills?

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Might as well call it Black Ops 2:Forerunner mode.

On a serious note. Is this seriously the best option for you 343 ? You are essentially re-hauling “Halo” by definition. This combined with the “Beefy” movement (Slow and Heavy) is basically GoW mixed with COD.

I’d love to actually get a proper DISCUSSION, going for once, rather than pointless flaming at each other. If 343 would like to get involved and just tell the community why they chose certain elements and why they think its beneficial to the game, I think we’d see a lot less “NO NO MULTIPLAYER NO” threads popping up.

So please, for once; Everyone put your sensible analytical hats on and actually Discuss the issue of a total re-design of almost all elements of the game.

Thank you.

P.S If a MOD locks this, you might as well just have a sticky saying “No threads discussing the potential failures of the game”. We’re all trying to come to the same objective at the end, so until it descends into total flaming, don’t just lock it like the last one.

> Might as well call it Black Ops 2:Forerunner mode.

Ok, seriously, it is getting very ANNOYING to see in almost any complain thread that they call Halo something else.

Stop calling it any stupid or redundant name.

I’d love to know where you got the ‘beefy’ movement from, seeing as it’s been confirmed that the movement speed and jump height has been changed for the best.

First of all are you sure points are the winning factor for games?

If they are may I have a link please?

Also what kind of points like?Like say 5 points for a kill and 3 for an assist all go towards winning?

> I’d love to know where you got the ‘beefy’ movement from, seeing as it’s been confirmed that the movement speed and jump height has been changed for the best.

Yesterday, Burnie from RvB was here, working on an RvB thing for later this year. He got a chance to play and was having trouble describing the “feel” - because he wanted to express that everything felt incredibly heavy and solid, but that those terms ran counter to the speed and smoothness he wanted to describe, when he tried to put it in words. So he ended up saying “beefy.”

So there you have it. Officially, it’s “beefy.”

(Thats from Frankie btw)

> <mark>Might as well call it Black Ops 2:Forerunner mode</mark>.
>
> This makes you sound like a child, why do people keep doing this?
>
> On a serious note. Is this seriously the best option for you 343 ? You are essentially re-hauling “Halo” by definition. This combined with the <mark>“Beefy” movement (Slow and Heavy)</mark> is basically GoW mixed with COD.
>
> That’s exactly what it isn’t going to be. There’ll be faster movement, including strafing, higher jumps and sprint.

As for the rest of the multiplayer, I’m sure it will play like Halo, but people need to accept that games change. Everything changes, people need to stop saying that they should just make a copy of Halo 2 or 3 with better graphics and tweaks.

You might say “Oh, but CoD is the same game each year and that’s the best selling game on the market.” Well, you’re wrong. CoD doesn’t stay the same; they add, remove and tweak elements for every game they release.

I don’t see why they would change the scoring system in the first place seeing how there was nothing wrong with it being 1 kill=1 point and also they’re bringing back a cr/spartan point system instead of xp which imo is another mistake on their part.

> Might as well call it Black Ops 2:Forerunner mode.
>
> On a serious note. Is this seriously the best option for you 343 ? You are essentially re-hauling “Halo” by definition. This combined with the “Beefy” movement (Slow and Heavy) is basically GoW mixed with COD.
>
> I’d love to actually get a proper DISCUSSION, going for once, rather than pointless flaming at each other. If 343 would like to get involved and just tell the community why they chose certain elements and why they think its beneficial to the game, I think we’d see a lot less “NO NO MULTIPLAYER NO” threads popping up.
>
> So please, for once; Everyone put your sensible analytical hats on and actually Discuss the issue of a total re-design of almost all elements of the game.
>
> Thank you.
>
> P.S If a MOD locks this, you might as well just have a sticky saying “No threads discussing the potential failures of the game”. We’re all trying to come to the same objective at the end, so until it descends into total flaming, don’t just lock it like the last one.

First off the “points” system will only be in certain playlists.

Second no-one said anything about “beefy” movement

Thirdly the Waypoint community is an EXTREME minority of the Halo community and the “haters” are an even smaller minority on Waypoint.

Fourthly every single thread you have posted has been full of uneducated opinions and downright wrong facts.

Mod’s if you may…

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> First of all are you sure points are the winning factor for games?
>
> If they are may I have a link please?
>
> Also what kind of points like?Like say 5 points for a kill and 3 for an assist all go towards winning?

http://thegift73.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/gif3bqadk.gif (As you an see in the bottom right, those points increase rather fast, I’m thinking medals increase it?)

> > I’d love to know where you got the ‘beefy’ movement from, seeing as it’s been confirmed that the movement speed and jump height has been changed for the best.
>
> Yesterday, Burnie from RvB was here, working on an RvB thing for later this year. He got a chance to play and was having trouble describing the “feel” - because he wanted to express that everything felt incredibly heavy and solid, but that those terms ran counter to the speed and smoothness he wanted to describe, when he tried to put it in words. So he ended up saying “beefy.”
>
>
> So there you have it. Officially, it’s “beefy.”
>
> (Thats from Frankie btw)

Did the beefiness desribe the movement?

no

> > Might as well call it Black Ops 2:Forerunner mode.
> >
> > On a serious note. Is this seriously the best option for you 343 ? You are essentially re-hauling “Halo” by definition. This combined with the “Beefy” movement (Slow and Heavy) is basically GoW mixed with COD.
> >
> > I’d love to actually get a proper DISCUSSION, going for once, rather than pointless flaming at each other. If 343 would like to get involved and just tell the community why they chose certain elements and why they think its beneficial to the game, I think we’d see a lot less “NO NO MULTIPLAYER NO” threads popping up.
> >
> > So please, for once; Everyone put your sensible analytical hats on and actually Discuss the issue of a total re-design of almost all elements of the game.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > P.S If a MOD locks this, you might as well just have a sticky saying “No threads discussing the potential failures of the game”. We’re all trying to come to the same objective at the end, so until it descends into total flaming, don’t just lock it like the last one.
>
> First off the “points” system will only be in certain playlists.
>
> Second no-one said anything about “beefy” movement
>
> Thirdly the Waypoint community is an EXTREME minority of the Halo community and the “haters” are an even smaller minority on Waypoint.
>
> Fourthly every single thread you have posted has been full of uneducated opinions and downright wrong facts.
>
>
>
> Mod’s if you may…

So Frankie is an illegitimate source now ?

In fact no, it’s not full of uneducated opinions, it’s just opinions from OFFICIAL sources that I can currently discern. Please stop trying to suppress other peoples opinions because they conflict with your own.

Thank you very much kind sir.

Not another one of these threads…

I think you’re taking small bits of information and jumping to conclusions.

The movements look far from what you seem to be associating “beefy” with.

> Not another one of these threads…

Not constructive…

> > > Might as well call it Black Ops 2:Forerunner mode.
> > >
> > > On a serious note. Is this seriously the best option for you 343 ? You are essentially re-hauling “Halo” by definition. This combined with the “Beefy” movement (Slow and Heavy) is basically GoW mixed with COD.
> > >
> > > I’d love to actually get a proper DISCUSSION, going for once, rather than pointless flaming at each other. If 343 would like to get involved and just tell the community why they chose certain elements and why they think its beneficial to the game, I think we’d see a lot less “NO NO MULTIPLAYER NO” threads popping up.
> > >
> > > So please, for once; Everyone put your sensible analytical hats on and actually Discuss the issue of a total re-design of almost all elements of the game.
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> > > P.S If a MOD locks this, you might as well just have a sticky saying “No threads discussing the potential failures of the game”. We’re all trying to come to the same objective at the end, so until it descends into total flaming, don’t just lock it like the last one.
> >
> > First off the “points” system will only be in certain playlists.
> >
> > Second no-one said anything about “beefy” movement
> >
> > Thirdly the Waypoint community is an EXTREME minority of the Halo community and the “haters” are an even smaller minority on Waypoint.
> >
> > Fourthly every single thread you have posted has been full of uneducated opinions and downright wrong facts.
> >
> >
> >
> > Mod’s if you may…
>
> So Frankie is an illegitimate source now ?
>
> In fact no, it’s not full of uneducated opinions, it’s just opinions from OFFICIAL sources that I can currently discern. Please stop trying to suppress other peoples opinions because they conflict with your own.
>
> Thank you very much kind sir.

I lol’ed

If you look carefully at my post you will see i’m basing it off of your other threads.

Your opinions are not reflective of the official sources and if you read your sources carefully you would realise this.

> I think you’re taking small bits of information and jumping to conclusions.
>
> The movements look far from what you seem to be associating “beefy” with.

Well according to RvB, it is “Heavy and slow”, even if it is smooth. I appreciate your re-assurances, but this is more focused on the rather mainstream point system.

> > Not another one of these threads…
>
> Not constructive…

Not meant to be…

It’s meant to be a “-Yoink!-!” situation. Listening to that song maks me angry as well as comparing CoD to Halo

> > > > Might as well call it Black Ops 2:Forerunner mode.
> > > >
> > > > On a serious note. Is this seriously the best option for you 343 ? You are essentially re-hauling “Halo” by definition. This combined with the “Beefy” movement (Slow and Heavy) is basically GoW mixed with COD.
> > > >
> > > > I’d love to actually get a proper DISCUSSION, going for once, rather than pointless flaming at each other. If 343 would like to get involved and just tell the community why they chose certain elements and why they think its beneficial to the game, I think we’d see a lot less “NO NO MULTIPLAYER NO” threads popping up.
> > > >
> > > > So please, for once; Everyone put your sensible analytical hats on and actually Discuss the issue of a total re-design of almost all elements of the game.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you.
> > > >
> > > > P.S If a MOD locks this, you might as well just have a sticky saying “No threads discussing the potential failures of the game”. We’re all trying to come to the same objective at the end, so until it descends into total flaming, don’t just lock it like the last one.
> > >
> > > First off the “points” system will only be in certain playlists.
> > >
> > > Second no-one said anything about “beefy” movement
> > >
> > > Thirdly the Waypoint community is an EXTREME minority of the Halo community and the “haters” are an even smaller minority on Waypoint.
> > >
> > > Fourthly every single thread you have posted has been full of uneducated opinions and downright wrong facts.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Mod’s if you may…
> >
> > So Frankie is an illegitimate source now ?
> >
> > In fact no, it’s not full of uneducated opinions, it’s just opinions from OFFICIAL sources that I can currently discern. Please stop trying to suppress other peoples opinions because they conflict with your own.
> >
> > Thank you very much kind sir.
>
> I lol’ed
>
> If you look carefully at my post you will see i’m basing it off of your other threads.
>
> Your opinions are not reflective of the official sources and if you read your sources carefully you would realise this.

I understood what you meant, and although the rest of my threads have been rather ill minded, they are still opinions based on the small amount of footage available to us.

> > I think you’re taking small bits of information and jumping to conclusions.
> >
> > The movements look far from what you seem to be associating “beefy” with.
>
> Well according to RvB, it is “Heavy and slow”, even if it is smooth. I appreciate your re-assurances, but this is more focused on the rather mainstream point system.

You do realize that the game they played is a VERY early port and that they had limited options, right?

And you realize that others who have played the game said it feels like Halo and that you can strafe again?

As far as the points go - we don’t have anywhere NEAR enough information to conjecture what they’re for or how they are accruing, as you yourself pointed out even. There’s a lot to the game that we don’t know enough about and yet EVERYONE is jumping to all sorts of conclusions and starting chicken little threads. Not helpful. :frowning: