> Hello. My name is Hedgemony. I first joined this site in 2002. I have seen this community grow in so many great ways. I have seen community members rise and many who drifted away. I am one of the members who first joined because Halo:CE had this great backdrop that I wanted to explore more. For me, that is what is at the heart of a great Halo game. Adventure and exploration.
>
> Fast forward to now and when I look back on all of the Halo games I appreciate them in many different ways. But that was then. All of the elements that drew me into the universe in the beginning had become diluted over time. Large alien worlds, deeper mysteries, exploration. Halo for me was always about going to an alien world, kicking -Yoink- and then blowing -Yoink- up. And that changed with Reach. It became all about fighting an invasion. I’ve missed that “Boy’s own” adventure element for years now.
>
> I recently retired myself from the Halo community to answer questions that I had about what it means to me to be a Halo fan. What brings me back? What do I want from a Halo game? Why is HBO ripping itself apart with constant streams of like/dislike posts. If you take time off from HBO and come back you see this:
>
> “I hate that. -Yoink- you 343.”
> “I agree. This isn’t Halo.”
> “I agree with your agreement. HATE.”
> “This isn’t Bungie-like.”
>
> And that is all you see. That is all that new people would see too if they happened upon HBO. Not exactly going to spark interesting conversation. It’s also making some intelligent posters look completely stupid too.
>
> Is this based on having Bungie helm the series for so long and it’s just separation anxiety? Are people so worried that 343 will fail them? Are folks just so fixed in their ways after Halo has remained so “samey” for so long that automatically change is bad? Or are people so eager to play the game and see what 343 have done that they are expressing their concerns in worried ways? Don’t answer this here, ask yourselves this question.
>
> My time away on the mountain made me realize this. Everything I have seen so far from 343 is exactly what I want from a Halo game. All of those elements that brought me into the series are now showing up in Halo4 screenshots. I wanted a new Halo game that was fresh. Comparing Halo4 to older titles is inevitable. Here, I feel that it is unfair and even unwise to do so. A new team, new vision, new ways to play.
>
> No one is trying to take my “Halo” from me. All signs point to 343 wanting to give me “my” Halo back. And then something new. How can I hate this? I really can’t. Recently I was playing Vanquish (if you haven’t then I insist you do) and I thought to myself, “That would be cool if it was in Halo.” How many games have you done this with as well? If 343 take what works from other games and adds that to the core experience of Halo then I’m not going to complain.
>
> I ask the community to take a deep breath. Not take everything so seriously and realize that what you say does have an affect on community harmony and those who find their way here to read what has always been the standard for HBO. Intelligent conversation and ideas without having to resort to name calling, auto responses of “this sucks.” Try looking upon Halo4 with fresh eyes. Appreciate the artists and people who are making a game with you in mind. Change is good. Change is healthy for Halo.
>
> Halo is moving into the future and unfortunately I see people leaving themselves behind. And it’s not 343’s fault at all.
>
> -Hedge. “History is a relentless master. It has no present, only the past rushing into the future. To try to hold fast is to be swept aside.” - JFK.
People should read this and take the time to understand what he is saying seriously 343 I LOVE what im seeing not because im blind or some other made up reason that some person has to make up to show im not worth listening to I love halo and always have and im very excited
I completely agree with you about Halo, Halo Reach, Halo 4, 343, all of it.
I am incredibly hyped and looking forward to Halo 4.
It seems to be shaping up really well.
> I completely agree with you about Halo, Halo Reach, Halo 4, 343, all of it.
>
> I am incredibly hyped and looking forward to Halo 4.
> It seems to be shaping up really well.
thank you. I am leaving most judgement till i understand more info. Frank and David both keep stating the a lot of the info is out of context and without the context There is not true way to judge something.
This should be stickied and locked post haste
Great find OP, I feel a lot like this guy sometimes.
Wholeheartedly agree. The sort of reaction we’ve seen saddens me, it really does.
This person sums up how i feel and have felt about Halo the last 10 years. Great job OP
I agree with a lot that this guy says and respect him. I’m not worried about change in Halo just in what and how it’s changing. If 343 were changing things like making a weapon such as the AR more powerful to make it balanced then I would be happy (I think they already did this though). The only reason I am getting mad or being worried is because all of the things that are changing cater to casual gamers and that’s what I don’t like.
I still do have faith in 343 as Halo 4 will determine if Halo will stay a blockbuster or it will fall down to rock bottom. I think people are worrying to much though and I think that 343 only showed game informer the things that would attract casual gamers to get there attention and to release the news to a wider audience. I think 343 will show us things that will interest competitive gamers their probably just going to do it on this site
Please I don’t want Halo to fall apart our community just needs to be patient and trust 343.
> This should be stickied and locked post haste
I wish But idk how to do it
> Great find OP, I feel a lot like this guy sometimes.
Don’t thank me i just found it he wrote it and is amazing.
bip Bap BAM
It’s considered polite on the internet to at least give a linkback to the place you originally found content, even if they don’t mind you cross-posting it somewhere else.
I love Halo, and I love that 343 is making a new one. It’s just the fact that I’ve always loved Arena FPS games, and that’s what I thought I got when I played every Halo game.
When they change the type of shooter it is into a class-based shooter, it’s where I get disappointed. It’s not that these things are bad, but just merely not what I believed Halo should have become.
> I love Halo, and I love that 343 is making a new one. It’s just the fact that I’ve always loved Arena FPS games, and that’s what I thought I got when I played every Halo game.
>
> When they change the type of shooter it is into a class-based shooter, it’s where I get disappointed. It’s not that these things are bad, but just merely not what I believed Halo should have become.
halo barely play like and arena FPS many fans think it would be idiotic to truely add more of the standard Arena style
> > I love Halo, and I love that 343 is making a new one. It’s just the fact that I’ve always loved Arena FPS games, and that’s what I thought I got when I played every Halo game.
> >
> > When they change the type of shooter it is into a class-based shooter, it’s where I get disappointed. It’s not that these things are bad, but just merely not what I believed Halo should have become.
>
> halo barely play like and arena FPS many fans think it would be idiotic to truely add more of the standard Arena style
Everyone spawns equal. Power Weapons are found on the map. Power Ups and Health Packs are found on the map (Not Including 2 and 3). Only difference are regenerating shields, and you can’t say that it was ever closer to a class-based game.
EDIT: I don’t think Halo 2 and 3 were seen as idiotic to a lot of a fans.
Wise words from a wise person.
Great text and this thread should stay at top page, i bet whiners burn the moment they read this.
> Wise words from a wise person.
>
> Great text and this thread should stay at top page, i bet whiners burn the moment they read this.
Can recognize wise words but still have to say that people with opinions are whiners.
> > Wise words from a wise person.
> >
> > Great text and this thread should stay at top page, i bet whiners burn the moment they read this.
>
> Can recognize wise words but still have to say that people with opinions are whiners.
I’m reffering to the ones who parade around saying how Halo 4 is COD in space or how they ingore 343’s explanation.
There are those who express their opinions but many just whine for the sake of whining(these are the whiners).
> > Hello. My name is Hedgemony. I first joined this site in 2002. I have seen this community grow in so many great ways. I have seen community members rise and many who drifted away. I am one of the members who first joined because Halo:CE had this great backdrop that I wanted to explore more. For me, that is what is at the heart of a great Halo game. Adventure and exploration.
> >
> > Fast forward to now and when I look back on all of the Halo games I appreciate them in many different ways. But that was then. All of the elements that drew me into the universe in the beginning had become diluted over time. Large alien worlds, deeper mysteries, exploration. Halo for me was always about going to an alien world, kicking -Yoink!- and then blowing Yoink! up. And that changed with Reach. It became all about fighting an invasion. I’ve missed that “Boy’s own” adventure element for years now.
> >
> > I recently retired myself from the Halo community to answer questions that I had about what it means to me to be a Halo fan. What brings me back? What do I want from a Halo game? Why is HBO ripping itself apart with constant streams of like/dislike posts. If you take time off from HBO and come back you see this:
> >
> > “I hate that. -Yoink!- you 343.”
> > “I agree. This isn’t Halo.”
> > “I agree with your agreement. HATE.”
> > “This isn’t Bungie-like.”
> >
> > And that is all you see. That is all that new people would see too if they happened upon HBO. Not exactly going to spark interesting conversation. It’s also making some intelligent posters look completely stupid too.
> >
> > Is this based on having Bungie helm the series for so long and it’s just separation anxiety? Are people so worried that 343 will fail them? Are folks just so fixed in their ways after Halo has remained so “samey” for so long that automatically change is bad? Or are people so eager to play the game and see what 343 have done that they are expressing their concerns in worried ways? Don’t answer this here, ask yourselves this question.
> >
> > My time away on the mountain made me realize this. Everything I have seen so far from 343 is exactly what I want from a Halo game. All of those elements that brought me into the series are now showing up in Halo4 screenshots. I wanted a new Halo game that was fresh. Comparing Halo4 to older titles is inevitable. Here, I feel that it is unfair and even unwise to do so. A new team, new vision, new ways to play.
> >
> > No one is trying to take my “Halo” from me. All signs point to 343 wanting to give me “my” Halo back. And then something new. How can I hate this? I really can’t. Recently I was playing Vanquish (if you haven’t then I insist you do) and I thought to myself, “That would be cool if it was in Halo.” How many games have you done this with as well? If 343 take what works from other games and adds that to the core experience of Halo then I’m not going to complain.
> >
> > I ask the community to take a deep breath. Not take everything so seriously and realize that what you say does have an affect on community harmony and those who find their way here to read what has always been the standard for HBO. Intelligent conversation and ideas without having to resort to name calling, auto responses of “this sucks.” Try looking upon Halo4 with fresh eyes. Appreciate the artists and people who are making a game with you in mind. Change is good. Change is healthy for Halo.
> >
> > Halo is moving into the future and unfortunately I see people leaving themselves behind. And it’s not 343’s fault at all.
> >
> > -Hedge. “History is a relentless master. It has no present, only the past rushing into the future. To try to hold fast is to be swept aside.” - JFK.
This is great. A true Halo fan all around. I agree with everything from this post.