Friendly Fire?

Hey I was just wondering if 343 noted anywhere if there would be friendly fire? There isn’t in the tech preview, but there needs to be. It’s Halo.

There isn’t even collision with teammates in the tech preview. You can literally walk through them. They should bring back friendly fire/collision for everything.

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> Hey I was just wondering if 343 noted anywhere if there would be friendly fire? There isn’t in the tech preview, but there needs to be. It’s Halo.

There will be friendly fire. This is as you’ve said just bots. I think it’s to prevent team killing, and honestly I standby the decision to have it disabled for bot play at the moment. Hopefully we get some actual pvp later on and then the training wheels will be off.

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> > Hey I was just wondering if 343 noted anywhere if there would be friendly fire? There isn’t in the tech preview, but there needs to be. It’s Halo.
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> There will be friendly fire. This is as you’ve said just bots. I think it’s to prevent team killing, and honestly I standby the decision to have it disabled for bot play at the moment. Hopefully we get some actual pvp later on and then the training wheels will be off.

Yea pretty much what I was thinking, just had me worried

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> > There will be friendly fire. This is as you’ve said just bots. I think it’s to prevent team killing, and honestly I standby the decision to have it disabled for bot play at the moment. Hopefully we get some actual pvp later on and then the training wheels will be off.
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> Yea pretty much what I was thinking, just had me worried

Yeah I can understand that, there’s a few technical aspects that are missing but that’s a technical preview for you.

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> > > > Hey I was just wondering if 343 noted anywhere if there would be friendly fire? There isn’t in the tech preview, but there needs to be. It’s Halo.
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> > > There will be friendly fire. This is as you’ve said just bots. I think it’s to prevent team killing, and honestly I standby the decision to have it disabled for bot play at the moment. Hopefully we get some actual pvp later on and then the training wheels will be off.
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> Yeah I can understand that, there’s a few technical aspects that are missing but that’s a technical preview for you.

Something like collision feels technical, but friendly fire was a choice. Probably temporary, but still a choice.

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> > > > > Hey I was just wondering if 343 noted anywhere if there would be friendly fire? There isn’t in the tech preview, but there needs to be. It’s Halo.
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> > > > There will be friendly fire. This is as you’ve said just bots. I think it’s to prevent team killing, and honestly I standby the decision to have it disabled for bot play at the moment. Hopefully we get some actual pvp later on and then the training wheels will be off.
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> Something like collision feels technical, but friendly fire was a choice. Probably temporary, but still a choice.

I agree. Again though, I agree with the decision to have friendly fire disabled, at least for vs the bots.

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> There isn’t even collision with teammates in the tech preview. You can literally walk through them. They should bring back friendly fire/collision for everything.

Absolutely not. Friendly fire should not return under any circumstances, collisions I agree, but there is literally no benefit for having friendly fire aside from betray trolls and people betraying over power weapons.

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> Hey I was just wondering if 343 noted anywhere if there would be friendly fire? There isn’t in the tech preview, but there needs to be. It’s Halo.

Man i really hope there’s friendly fire. After playing custom games MCC friendly fire is pretty much 100% needed lol

I hate collision definitely needs to stay out, but friendly fire can lead to some funny moments.

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> > There isn’t even collision with teammates in the tech preview. You can literally walk through them. They should bring back friendly fire/collision for everything.
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> Absolutely not. Friendly fire should not return under any circumstances, collisions I agree, but there is literally no benefit for having friendly fire aside from betray trolls and people betraying over power weapons.

No, this is one thing that makes Halo different. You can’t spam grenades and rocket shots wherever you want. You have to be a little more deliberate and intentional about what you’re doing. Even if it’s just in competitive modes, I’d be ok with that. If you’ve ever actually played a Halo game, you would know there aren’t that many people intentionally betraying teammates. Occasionally for power weapons, sure, but your score reflects it, and with the reporting system in place, I think it’ll be fine.

With PVP still no signs of friendly fire, definitely want to see this added back. Its a pretty important element for the reasons stated above

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> Hey I was just wondering if 343 noted anywhere if there would be friendly fire? There isn’t in the tech preview, but there needs to be. It’s Halo.

Unfortunately even in PvP they did not turn it on. It really is dumb if they go this route for default gameplay. I believe friendly fire and collisions add a level of competence that is needed for games to be fun. I have played a few PVP matches and have to say the game plays a lot differently (like my jump feels odd for one). Also having teammates just run about blocking grenades is pretty annoying seeing as they can’t reap the consequences of it.

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> > Hey I was just wondering if 343 noted anywhere if there would be friendly fire? There isn’t in the tech preview, but there needs to be. It’s Halo.
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> Unfortunately even in PvP they did not turn it on. It really is dumb if they go this route for default gameplay. I believe friendly fire and collisions add a level of competence that is needed for games to be fun. I have played a few PVP matches and have to say the game plays a lot differently (like my jump feels odd for one). Also having teammates just run about blocking grenades is pretty annoying seeing as they can’t reap the consequences of it.

The feel is definitely technical hiccups. Read the known bugs list and you’ll understand. But the friendly fire is a choice they need to go back on.

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> > > There isn’t even collision with teammates in the tech preview. You can literally walk through them. They should bring back friendly fire/collision for everything.
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> > Absolutely not. Friendly fire should not return under any circumstances, collisions I agree, but there is literally no benefit for having friendly fire aside from betray trolls and people betraying over power weapons.
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> No, this is one thing that makes Halo different. You can’t spam grenades and rocket shots wherever you want. You have to be a little more deliberate and intentional about what you’re doing. Even if it’s just in competitive modes, I’d be ok with that. If you’ve ever actually played a Halo game, you would know there aren’t that many people intentionally betraying teammates. Occasionally for power weapons, sure, but your score reflects it, and with the reporting system in place, I think it’ll be fine.

From my experience in MCC, the betray trolls are ridiculous . So if infinite puts a good place for fixing betray trolling I guess.

Honestly, freindly fire is necessary if you want to call this halo. Period.

I saw it turned off in halo4. Guess what it did. Made your troll/greifer teammates invincable to your retaliation. Thats what.

Also: “DERP! Room full of both enemies and freindlies? Unload rockets and grenades to magically cleanse the room of enemies while leaving your freinds unscathed.” Are these magic explosions that cant hurt people you like?

Dont fix what aint broke. This series is only still alive by staying true to the original trilogy. That includes friendly fire. You think counter strike cares if you hate freindly fire? Watch how many people leave if you renove that element of immersion in gameplay. That is a deal breaker for some. I remember when it was removed in halo 4. So do other veterins.