so I am kinda getting annoyed at the whole “Free DLC” argument and that Reqs contribute to the entire Free DLC thing when in fact it does not.
my points to debunk “Free DLC” and why I support paying for my content again
see most “Free” DLC maps is Forged maps and isn’t actually original maps… these Forged maps we’d have gotten for free anyways via file share
Skins 343 loves to bang the old skins thing and I personally don’t feel it besides I used to get that in a paid DLC and I didn’t have to pay in order to unlock it
Original maps – granted I love the few original maps that are out there but I’d hardly call them “Free” more like added content that should have already been in game on release.
Armor and Emblems and weapons that I now have to buy via Reqs I used to get within the Season pass guaranteed.
People who typically couldn’t buy DLCs or season passes typically where very young or they really didn’t care to buy them. I know of people that took a look at one DLC and hated it, Than as soon as the next one came out they loved the looks of it and bought it. the only separation was between young ones and adults.
I got all my weapons and all my stuff with in the game, I didn’t have to sink 250$ just to get something useful. also I didn’t need to keep stock of my power weapons because those weapons where on the maps and in game modes. And that was and is balanced. plus what if I don’t care for Warzone and yet I want to expand my armors? yet I can’t do anything except pour countless dollars into something that I should be getting for free anyways or at least being able to unlock them.
It is for HSC, yeah so was me paying for DLCs and Season passes! not to mention it encourages companies to invest in the gaming industry as opposed to player base.
all this stuff I used to get Via Season passes… and now I have to pay 10 times for it then I would have already gotten it guaranteed.
forge maps are fine. weapon skins are fine… so long as the missing gametypes come and true dlc maps end up getting made. it sucks having to wait, but thats the reality. Continued support by a dev is very valuable even if it seems some features are delayed.
we can give 343 flak, but do it for the right reasons.
The thing about Free DLC vs. Paid DLC is that free and paid all have there perks.
Free DLC
Obviously the DLC is free so no money needed. - The DLC is allowing people with not as much money to have the same content as others so whether you be rich or poor you can enjoy the same content. - The free DLC allows players from all over the world be able to enjoy it with out saying “I wish I had that piece of armor or that weapon skin.” Etc. Paid DLC
The money can go to tournament prizes. - More money for more content for the game. - The more money the company has the more games they can create.
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> Pay 10 times for it? IT’S FREE! Sure, there is an argument for payed DLC vs Free DLC, but are you seriously arguing AGAINST us getting free -Yoink-?
I don’t think anyone is necessarily against getting free stuff, but it’s the crap they’re passing off as “free dlc” that is the problem. In regards to the maps we’ve gotten, the majority are Forge maps, which have always been free. We’ve been getting Forge maps in Halo since Halo 3 but they were never advertised as “free dlc” because Forge maps are not free dlc.
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> so I am kinda getting annoyed at the whole “Free DLC” argument and that Reqs contribute to the entire Free DLC thing when in fact it does not.
>
> my points to debunk “Free DLC” and why I support paying for my content again
>
> 1) see most “Free” DLC maps is Forged maps and isn’t actually original maps… these Forged maps we’d have gotten for free anyways via file share
>
> 2) Skins 343 loves to bang the old skins thing and I personally don’t feel it besides I used to get that in a paid DLC and I didn’t have to pay in order to unlock it
>
> 3) Original maps – granted I love the few original maps that are out there but I’d hardly call them “Free” more like added content that should have already been in game on release.
>
> 4) Armor and Emblems and weapons that I now have to buy via Reqs I used to get within the Season pass guaranteed.
>
> 5) People who typically couldn’t buy DLCs or season passes typically where very young or they really didn’t care to buy them. I know of people that took a look at one DLC and hated it, Than as soon as the next one came out they loved the looks of it and bought it. the only separation was between young ones and adults.
>
> 6) I got all my weapons and all my stuff with in the game, I didn’t have to sink 250$ just to get something useful. also I didn’t need to keep stock of my power weapons because those weapons where on the maps and in game modes. And that was and is balanced. plus what if I don’t care for Warzone and yet I want to expand my armors? yet I can’t do anything except pour countless dollars into something that I should be getting for free anyways or at least being able to unlock them.
>
> 7) It is for HSC, yeah so was me paying for DLCs and Season passes! not to mention it encourages companies to invest in the gaming industry as opposed to player base.
>
> all this stuff I used to get Via Season passes… and now I have to pay 10 times for it then I would have already gotten it guaranteed.
Forged maps made by the cartographers to showcase the power of the new Forge. So it’s not for certain that we will keep getting Forged maps. If anything we will get forged maps and newer maps, and then a remix of the new map… Or just new things in general since their whole team is now together in one big office.
At least it comes free now. If you have everything unlocked by now, new skins are easily obtained.
At least it came in free and not casted off as a paid DLC like some maps were in previous Halo titles. I’m sure the community can provide things about that.
Again, you don’t have to pay a dime for new stuff, only your time and dedication. You can buy req packs with money if you are impatient or want to be one req pack ahead of yourself.
Yeah and that’s what also divided the players on who can and can’t afford the season pass. Albeit that they should have made this game rated M because little 12 year old -Yoink- calling other players the F word, not the F-BOMB, and complaining how their team sucks when the kid themself sucks. This ain’t cod you 12 year olds.
Okay, then go play arena/BTB if you don’t care about warzone. Games are short enough to grind req points. BTB will always give you at least 1000 req points. Not sure about JIP. Maybe 200 less. Pretty sure you don’t even have to spend a dime to expand your armors.
Yay, 1 req pack bought supports the HCS cause.
I don’t think you want to put enough time into getting all of the armors. This system is like the Reach system, play matches to earn credits. Now with microtransaction, obtain stuff can be quicker. Your fault for buying req packs with hard money. Free stuff that can easily unlocked with req points. All it takes is time, vs a Paid DLC that gives less stuff? Idk about you, but the Free DLC is gonna give us so much more stuff than what a pre-paid/season pass DLC does. Because it’s every month, and already there is a boat load of stuff added. Some stuff should have been there, but it came to us for free. Not sure the reason why it wasn’t there from the beginning, but again, it came free.
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> > 2535459287187747;1:
> > so I am kinda getting annoyed at the whole “Free DLC” argument and that Reqs contribute to the entire Free DLC thing when in fact it does not.
> >
> > my points to debunk “Free DLC” and why I support paying for my content again
> >
> > 1) see most “Free” DLC maps is Forged maps and isn’t actually original maps… these Forged maps we’d have gotten for free anyways via file share
> >
> > 2) Skins 343 loves to bang the old skins thing and I personally don’t feel it besides I used to get that in a paid DLC and I didn’t have to pay in order to unlock it
> >
> > 3) Original maps – granted I love the few original maps that are out there but I’d hardly call them “Free” more like added content that should have already been in game on release.
> >
> > 4) Armor and Emblems and weapons that I now have to buy via Reqs I used to get within the Season pass guaranteed.
> >
> > 5) People who typically couldn’t buy DLCs or season passes typically where very young or they really didn’t care to buy them. I know of people that took a look at one DLC and hated it, Than as soon as the next one came out they loved the looks of it and bought it. the only separation was between young ones and adults.
> >
> > 6) I got all my weapons and all my stuff with in the game, I didn’t have to sink 250$ just to get something useful. also I didn’t need to keep stock of my power weapons because those weapons where on the maps and in game modes. And that was and is balanced. plus what if I don’t care for Warzone and yet I want to expand my armors? yet I can’t do anything except pour countless dollars into something that I should be getting for free anyways or at least being able to unlock them.
> >
> > 7) It is for HSC, yeah so was me paying for DLCs and Season passes! not to mention it encourages companies to invest in the gaming industry as opposed to player base.
> >
> > all this stuff I used to get Via Season passes… and now I have to pay 10 times for it then I would have already gotten it guaranteed.
>
>
> 1. Forged maps made by the cartographers to showcase the power of the new Forge. So it’s not for certain that we will keep getting Forged maps. If anything we will get forged maps and newer maps, and then a remix of the new map… Or just new things in general since their whole team is now together in one big office.
>
> 2. At least it comes free now. If you have everything unlocked by now, new skins are easily obtained.
>
> 3. At least it came in free and not casted off as a paid DLC like some maps were in previous Halo titles. I’m sure the community can provide things about that.
>
> 4. Again, you don’t have to pay a dime for new stuff, only your time and dedication. You can buy req packs with money if you are impatient or want to be one req pack ahead of yourself.
>
> 5. Yeah and that’s what also divided the players on who can and can’t afford the season pass. Albeit that they should have made this game rated M because little 12 year old -Yoink- calling other players the F word, not the F-BOMB, and complaining how their team sucks when the kid themself sucks. This ain’t cod you 12 year olds.
>
> 6. Okay, then go play arena/BTB if you don’t care about warzone. Games are short enough to grind req points. BTB will always give you at least 1000 req points. Not sure about JIP. Maybe 200 less. Pretty sure you don’t even have to spend a dime to expand your armors.
>
> 7. Yay, 1 req pack bought supports the HCS cause.
>
> I don’t think you want to put enough time into getting all of the armors. This system is like the Reach system, play matches to earn credits. Now with microtransaction, obtain stuff can be quicker. Your fault for buying req packs with hard money. Free stuff that can easily unlocked with req points. All it takes is time, vs a Paid DLC that gives less stuff? Idk about you, but the Free DLC is gonna give us so much more stuff than what a pre-paid/season pass DLC does. Because it’s every month, and already there is a boat load of stuff added. Some stuff should have been there, but it came to us for free. Not sure the reason why it wasn’t there from the beginning, but again, it came free.
I like what you say in reason 7. Because I played Destiny the horrible game it is bought the so called Season pass which was thirty dollars. And got two DLC two and right at this moment there are three and the worst part is that I paid fifteen dollars for two of the three and most likely more to come DLC. That is the upside of free DLC there is no pay thirty dollars for two of the ten DLC there is pay nothing for all ten DLC.
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> so I am kinda getting annoyed at the whole “Free DLC” argument and that Reqs contribute to the entire Free DLC thing when in fact it does not.
>
> my points to debunk “Free DLC” and why I support paying for my content again
>
> 1) see most “Free” DLC maps is Forged maps and isn’t actually original maps… these Forged maps we’d have gotten for free anyways via file share
> We’ve had only two updates so far and both of them were to get the cut or delayed content out for the players to enjoy. Shadow and Light was meant to be a showcasing of Forge and get BTB out while Cartographer’s Gift was literally forge plus extra goodies.
>
> 2) Skins 343 loves to bang the old skins thing and I personally don’t feel it besides I used to get that in a paid DLC and I didn’t have to pay in order to unlock it
> If you got them in a paid DLC, guess what, they weren’t free they were paid. Does it suck to have even more armor skins released on top of the seventy others? Yes but, many of the new skins were for armor that did not have any skins to begin with. Sure not everyone cares about something like this but there are some who do.
>
> 3) Original maps – granted I love the few original maps that are out there but I’d hardly call them “Free” more like added content that should have already been in game on release.
> Same could be said about paid DLC yet I don’t see you making threads for that
>
> 4) Armor and Emblems and weapons that I now have to buy via Reqs I used to get within the Season pass guaranteed.
> You act like the season pass is a good idea for the industry. Fun fact, they are about as paid as microtransactions and paid DLC.
>
> 5) People who typically couldn’t buy DLCs or season passes typically where very young or they really didn’t care to buy them. I know of people that took a look at one DLC and hated it, Than as soon as the next one came out they loved the looks of it and bought it. the only separation was between young ones and adults.
> The people who don’t buy DLC or the season pass are smart by not wasting money on content that should be given to players for free. Some DLC is fine but if you see a season pass then hear “PRE-ORDER AND GET THE BLAH BLAH MAP PACK AND M645 SMG FOR FREE!” that’s bad. That means they made content at the same time as the base game, then cut it for extra profit.
>
> 6) I got all my weapons and all my stuff with in the game, I didn’t have to sink 250$ just to get something useful. also I didn’t need to keep stock of my power weapons because those weapons where on the maps and in game modes. And that was and is balanced. plus what if I don’t care for Warzone and yet I want to expand my armors? yet I can’t do anything except pour countless dollars into something that I should be getting for free anyways or at least being able to unlock them.
> You don’t need to spend money at all on REQs to get what you want. Hell, it’s more of a waste to do that. It’s all based on RNG buddy. Should there be packs that only give armor and another for only Warzone items? Yes. But do I need to spend money on REQs to get what I want? No, I just got my Security helmet after only three months of the game being out. Took be more than a year to get that in Halo Reach.
>
> 7) It is for HSC, yeah so was me paying for DLCs and Season passes! not to mention it encourages companies to invest in the gaming industry as opposed to player base.
> **When will you understand that paid DLC and season passes are evil?**all this stuff I used to get Via Season passes… and now I have to pay 10 times for it then I would have already gotten it guaranteed.
If halo 5 would of had a season pass like other games i wouldn’t have gotten it. its why i didnt get rainbow six or blackops cus im not into those games to buy it wil a season pass. if you don’t buy a season pass you cant even play certain playlists.
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> > > 2535459287187747;1:
> > > so I am kinda getting annoyed at the whole “Free DLC” argument and that Reqs contribute to the entire Free DLC thing when in fact it does not.
> > >
> > > my points to debunk “Free DLC” and why I support paying for my content again
> > >
> > > 1) see most “Free” DLC maps is Forged maps and isn’t actually original maps… these Forged maps we’d have gotten for free anyways via file share
> > >
> > > 2) Skins 343 loves to bang the old skins thing and I personally don’t feel it besides I used to get that in a paid DLC and I didn’t have to pay in order to unlock it
> > >
> > > 3) Original maps – granted I love the few original maps that are out there but I’d hardly call them “Free” more like added content that should have already been in game on release.
> > >
> > > 4) Armor and Emblems and weapons that I now have to buy via Reqs I used to get within the Season pass guaranteed.
> > >
> > > 5) People who typically couldn’t buy DLCs or season passes typically where very young or they really didn’t care to buy them. I know of people that took a look at one DLC and hated it, Than as soon as the next one came out they loved the looks of it and bought it. the only separation was between young ones and adults.
> > >
> > > 6) I got all my weapons and all my stuff with in the game, I didn’t have to sink 250$ just to get something useful. also I didn’t need to keep stock of my power weapons because those weapons where on the maps and in game modes. And that was and is balanced. plus what if I don’t care for Warzone and yet I want to expand my armors? yet I can’t do anything except pour countless dollars into something that I should be getting for free anyways or at least being able to unlock them.
> > >
> > > 7) It is for HSC, yeah so was me paying for DLCs and Season passes! not to mention it encourages companies to invest in the gaming industry as opposed to player base.
> > >
> > > all this stuff I used to get Via Season passes… and now I have to pay 10 times for it then I would have already gotten it guaranteed.
> >
> >
> > 1. Forged maps made by the cartographers to showcase the power of the new Forge. So it’s not for certain that we will keep getting Forged maps. If anything we will get forged maps and newer maps, and then a remix of the new map… Or just new things in general since their whole team is now together in one big office.
> >
> > 2. At least it comes free now. If you have everything unlocked by now, new skins are easily obtained.
> >
> > 3. At least it came in free and not casted off as a paid DLC like some maps were in previous Halo titles. I’m sure the community can provide things about that.
> >
> > 4. Again, you don’t have to pay a dime for new stuff, only your time and dedication. You can buy req packs with money if you are impatient or want to be one req pack ahead of yourself.
> >
> > 5. Yeah and that’s what also divided the players on who can and can’t afford the season pass. Albeit that they should have made this game rated M because little 12 year old -Yoink- calling other players the F word, not the F-BOMB, and complaining how their team sucks when the kid themself sucks. This ain’t cod you 12 year olds.
> >
> > 6. Okay, then go play arena/BTB if you don’t care about warzone. Games are short enough to grind req points. BTB will always give you at least 1000 req points. Not sure about JIP. Maybe 200 less. Pretty sure you don’t even have to spend a dime to expand your armors.
> >
> > 7. Yay, 1 req pack bought supports the HCS cause.
> >
> > I don’t think you want to put enough time into getting all of the armors. This system is like the Reach system, play matches to earn credits. Now with microtransaction, obtain stuff can be quicker. Your fault for buying req packs with hard money. Free stuff that can easily unlocked with req points. All it takes is time, vs a Paid DLC that gives less stuff? Idk about you, but the Free DLC is gonna give us so much more stuff than what a pre-paid/season pass DLC does. Because it’s every month, and already there is a boat load of stuff added. Some stuff should have been there, but it came to us for free. Not sure the reason why it wasn’t there from the beginning, but again, it came free.
>
>
> I like what you say in reason 7. Because I played Destiny the horrible game it is bought the so called Season pass which was thirty dollars. And got two DLC two and right at this moment there are three and the worst part is that I paid fifteen dollars for two of the three and most likely more to come DLC. That is the upside of free DLC there is no pay thirty dollars for two of the ten DLC there is pay nothing for all ten DLC.
Warning opinion rant inbound!
The crap bungie did with destiny made me stop playing the game and regret every considering myself a fanboy of bungie. I’ll never spend another cent on anything with Bungie’s trademark on it. Never threw any of money at the screen for TTK also makes me second guess buying any other games published by Activision. In fear they will repeat the same nonsense.
Don’t get me wrong I loved what they did with halo. But after the season pass witch I liked and maxed out 3 characters to level 32. They unnecessary nerfed all my legendary weapons I spent countless hours repetitively grinding for and calling it rebalancing. Only to introduce new weapons to entice us to buy TTK, and reintroduced the same weapons once again to continue the grind fest. Not to mention the micro transaction for cosmetics and buy a leaved character. Also hide activities behind paywalls and made some of the raids pretty pointless.
rant complete time to cool down and enjoy playing 343i’s Halo 5
I like having free DLC in Halo 5, but it’s only making up for all the content that was missing in the base game, such as BTB and Forge. Plus, there is still a lot of content that is missing that other Halo games had, such as Infection, Oddball, File Share, etc.
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> I like having free DLC in Halo 5, but it’s only making up for all the content that was missing in the base game, such as BTB and Forge. Plus, there is still a lot of content that is missing that other Halo games had, such as Infection, Oddball, File Share, etc.
Yeah…to say these things are DLC is ridiculous.
They’re patches…nothing more.
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> > 2535428321626321;16:
> > I like having free DLC in Halo 5, but it’s only making up for all the content that was missing in the base game, such as BTB and Forge. Plus, there is still a lot of content that is missing that other Halo games had, such as Infection, Oddball, File Share, etc.
>
>
> Yeah…to say these things are DLC is ridiculous.
> They’re patches…nothing more.
Honestly I’d rather wait for cut content to come then pay $10 for maps that were made then cut from the base game to make more money. At least with a patch the cut content is free.