Frankie's Words

Hey all, I’m gonna try and make this as quick and painless as I possibly can so if I start ranting go easy on me. I’m trying so hard not to. :confused:

Anyway like most of you I just read the Bulletin and with it, Frankie’s personal message and I have to say it because it’s trying to claw it’s way out of my throat.

Basically I wanted to believe what Frankie was saying, but my mother taught me about crocodile tears and getting the sympathy vote. Frankie, it’s great that you’re admitting the…problems that came with the game but at the end of it I just don’t believe you actually truly mean it.

Now it’s obviously not my place to say whether it’s the truth or not, the community will make up their own minds about it. But what I’m really having a hard time with right now is the horrifyingly bad level of disappointment I’ve received not only from the game, but from 343 themselves. Don’t get me wrong guys, I love 343 and I’m damn sure I love Halo. I’ll stick with it for as long as I can and anyone who doesn’t like that can stick it.

I’m not gonna go into Matchmaking, Campaign, Spartan Ops, Forge etc because that’s not the point of my thread. I’d just like to say that I’m actually quite sad right now. The Mods can lock this if they wish, hell they can delete it if need be. I just wanted to say what was on my mind.

I thought Halo 4 was going to be one of the best Halo games in history. I still do, well I hope it can be one day that is. But right now all I see is thread after thread of anger, hatred and aggression. I’m no angel, I’ve taken part in this too. But out of all those threads, where was the community support? Where was the help? Where were the answers to the questions? We still haven’t got them.

If I’m going to use anyone as an example, I’m going to point straight to Time Glitch. His thread has over 190 pages. You can fit an average of 20-25 posts on each page. Doesn’t that bother you 343? That poor guy and all those people created a thread that’s become so popular and they haven’t even gotten as much as a “We get it guys” from you. It’s really frustrating.

I’m gonna end this now but I just wanted to say:
Halo 4 is a beautiful game, but that’s all it is to me right now. I think you guys are good developers…

I just don’t think you were ready for the responsibility that Halo needed.

  • TAK

Glitch’s thread is usually on the first page too. They can’t say they didn’t notice it via getting buried by other threads :P.

To be honest, at least Halo 4 didn’t end up like War Z. Now THAT was a disaster.

> Hey all, I’m gonna try and make this as quick and painless as I possibly can so if I start ranting go easy on me. I’m trying so hard not to. :confused:
>
> Anyway like most of you I just read the Bulletin and with it, Frankie’s personal message and I have to say it because it’s trying to claw it’s way out of my throat.
>
> Basically I wanted to believe what Frankie was saying, but my mother taught me about crocodile tears and getting the sympathy vote. Frankie, it’s great that you’re admitting the…problems that came with the game but at the end of it I just don’t believe you actually truly mean it.
>
> Now it’s obviously not my place to say whether it’s the truth or not, the community will make up their own minds about it. But what I’m really having a hard time with right now is the horrifyingly bad level of disappointment I’ve received not only from the game, but from 343 themselves. Don’t get me wrong guys, I love 343 and I’m damn sure I love Halo. I’ll stick with it for as long as I can and anyone who doesn’t like that can stick it.
>
> I’m not gonna go into Matchmaking, Campaign, Spartan Ops, Forge etc because that’s not the point of my thread. I’d just like to say that I’m actually quite sad right now. The Mods can lock this if they wish, hell they can delete it if need be. I just wanted to say what was on my mind.
>
> I thought Halo 4 was going to be one of the best Halo games in history. I still do, well I hope it can be one day that is. But right now all I see is thread after thread of anger, hatred and aggression. I’m no angel, I’ve taken part in this too. But out of all those threads, where was the community support? Where was the help? Where were the answers to the questions? We still haven’t got them.
>
> If I’m going to use anyone as an example, I’m going to point straight to Time Glitch. His thread has over 190 pages. You can fit an average of 20-25 posts on each page. Doesn’t that bother you 343? That poor guy and all those people created a thread that’s become so popular and they haven’t even gotten as much as a “We get it guys” from you. It’s really frustrating.
>
> I’m gonna end this now but I just wanted to say:
> Halo 4 is a beautiful game, but that’s all it is to me right now. I think you guys are good developers…
>
> I just don’t think you were ready for the responsibility that Halo needed.
>
> - TAK

A great heartfelt post there mate well done.
I’m feeling similar things.
Love Halo,the lore and every Halo game to date.
I’m sad not angry that something I’m so invested in has disappointed me.
I still snagged a copy of the halo encyclopaedia last week and finished the glasslands novel but really don’t feel like playing Halo4 MP.

343 please treat your fans with a bit more respect we want to be passionate about this franchise but wont be taken for fools.

Bs angel responded to it.

Check it out.

> That poor guy and all those people created a thread that’s become so popular and they haven’t even gotten as much as a “We get it guys” from you. It’s really frustrating.

the whole post from franky pretty much said that and you called bs. if they acknowledged that thread you would call bs too.

343 cant win to save their lives.

^ where?

> > That poor guy and all those people created a thread that’s become so popular and they haven’t even gotten as much as a “We get it guys” from you. It’s really frustrating.
>
> the whole post from franky pretty much said that and you called bs. if they acknowledged that thread you would call bs too.
>
> 343 cant win to save their lives.

I didn’t mean what Frankie wrote. I meant Time Glitch’s post.

And please don’t assume I’m like a mindless troll. I know exactly what I’d do in that situation. I wouldn’t have made this thread. There would’ve been no point to do so. I would’ve felt like they were listening.

So quite the opposite my friend.

> ^ where?

https://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postst127421p193_Custom-game-options-are-unacceptable--343.aspx

She also responded earlier in the thread, I think too. But scroll down. Her comment has 5 “Thank yous”

> > > That poor guy and all those people created a thread that’s become so popular and they haven’t even gotten as much as a “We get it guys” from you. It’s really frustrating.
> >
> > the whole post from franky pretty much said that and you called bs. if they acknowledged that thread you would call bs too.
> >
> > 343 cant win to save their lives.
>
> I didn’t mean what Frankie wrote. I meant Time Glitch’s post.
>
> And please don’t assume I’m like a mindless troll. I know exactly what I’d do in that situation. I wouldn’t have made this thread. There would’ve been no point to do so. I would’ve felt like they were listening.
>
> So quite the opposite my friend.

i didnt mean to imply your a troll. i just meant that even if they do acknowledge something it sounds like you wouldnt believe it due to the OP.

> > > > That poor guy and all those people created a thread that’s become so popular and they haven’t even gotten as much as a “We get it guys” from you. It’s really frustrating.
> > >
> > > the whole post from franky pretty much said that and you called bs. if they acknowledged that thread you would call bs too.
> > >
> > > 343 cant win to save their lives.
> >
> > I didn’t mean what Frankie wrote. I meant Time Glitch’s post.
> >
> > And please don’t assume I’m like a mindless troll. I know exactly what I’d do in that situation. I wouldn’t have made this thread. There would’ve been no point to do so. I would’ve felt like they were listening.
> >
> > So quite the opposite my friend.
>
> i didnt mean to imply your a troll. i just meant that even if they do acknowledge something it sounds like you wouldnt believe it due to the OP.

No, if they had specifically gone out of their way to respond to even one specific thread then I could’ve believed it more. At this point I’m sitting here waiting for…anything.

Well, h4 forums was a mess for the first few months, responding to a thread just cycled out of page 1 within 2 minutes. And it had the angry mob effect, it still does to an extent, so if Frank posted I think he would’ve been flamed and burned at the stake haha

> > > > > That poor guy and all those people created a thread that’s become so popular and they haven’t even gotten as much as a “We get it guys” from you. It’s really frustrating.
> > > >
> > > > the whole post from franky pretty much said that and you called bs. if they acknowledged that thread you would call bs too.
> > > >
> > > > 343 cant win to save their lives.
> > >
> > > I didn’t mean what Frankie wrote. I meant Time Glitch’s post.
> > >
> > > And please don’t assume I’m like a mindless troll. I know exactly what I’d do in that situation. I wouldn’t have made this thread. There would’ve been no point to do so. I would’ve felt like they were listening.
> > >
> > > So quite the opposite my friend.
> >
> > i didnt mean to imply your a troll. i just meant that even if they do acknowledge something it sounds like you wouldnt believe it due to the OP.
>
> No, if they had specifically gone out of their way to respond to even one specific thread then I could’ve believed it more. At this point I’m sitting here waiting for…anything.

that big post acknowledged alot i just think your asking a lot at the moment given the fact they straight up said the effed up. lol

> > > > > > That poor guy and all those people created a thread that’s become so popular and they haven’t even gotten as much as a “We get it guys” from you. It’s really frustrating.
> > > > >
> > > > > the whole post from franky pretty much said that and you called bs. if they acknowledged that thread you would call bs too.
> > > > >
> > > > > 343 cant win to save their lives.
> > > >
> > > > I didn’t mean what Frankie wrote. I meant Time Glitch’s post.
> > > >
> > > > And please don’t assume I’m like a mindless troll. I know exactly what I’d do in that situation. I wouldn’t have made this thread. There would’ve been no point to do so. I would’ve felt like they were listening.
> > > >
> > > > So quite the opposite my friend.
> > >
> > > i didnt mean to imply your a troll. i just meant that even if they do acknowledge something it sounds like you wouldnt believe it due to the OP.
> >
> > No, if they had specifically gone out of their way to respond to even one specific thread then I could’ve believed it more. At this point I’m sitting here waiting for…anything.
>
> that big post acknowledged alot i just think your asking a lot at the moment given the fact they straight up said the effed up. lol

They could admit it all day long dude, it wouldn’t make a difference.

> > > > > > > That poor guy and all those people created a thread that’s become so popular and they haven’t even gotten as much as a “We get it guys” from you. It’s really frustrating.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the whole post from franky pretty much said that and you called bs. if they acknowledged that thread you would call bs too.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 343 cant win to save their lives.
> > > > >
> > > > > I didn’t mean what Frankie wrote. I meant Time Glitch’s post.
> > > > >
> > > > > And please don’t assume I’m like a mindless troll. I know exactly what I’d do in that situation. I wouldn’t have made this thread. There would’ve been no point to do so. I would’ve felt like they were listening.
> > > > >
> > > > > So quite the opposite my friend.
> > > >
> > > > i didnt mean to imply your a troll. i just meant that even if they do acknowledge something it sounds like you wouldnt believe it due to the OP.
> > >
> > > No, if they had specifically gone out of their way to respond to even one specific thread then I could’ve believed it more. At this point I’m sitting here waiting for…anything.
> >
> > that big post acknowledged alot i just think your asking a lot at the moment given the fact they straight up said the effed up. lol
>
> They could admit it all day long dude, it wouldn’t make a difference.

thats what im talking about. you say you want them to take responsibility and admit it. they do then you say that its a lie. then say your waiting you ANYTHING from them showing they care. then you say it wouldnt make a difference what they say.

make up your mind man.

good day.

> > > > > > > > That poor guy and all those people created a thread that’s become so popular and they haven’t even gotten as much as a “We get it guys” from you. It’s really frustrating.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > the whole post from franky pretty much said that and you called bs. if they acknowledged that thread you would call bs too.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 343 cant win to save their lives.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I didn’t mean what Frankie wrote. I meant Time Glitch’s post.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And please don’t assume I’m like a mindless troll. I know exactly what I’d do in that situation. I wouldn’t have made this thread. There would’ve been no point to do so. I would’ve felt like they were listening.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So quite the opposite my friend.
> > > > >
> > > > > i didnt mean to imply your a troll. i just meant that even if they do acknowledge something it sounds like you wouldnt believe it due to the OP.
> > > >
> > > > No, if they had specifically gone out of their way to respond to even one specific thread then I could’ve believed it more. At this point I’m sitting here waiting for…anything.
> > >
> > > that big post acknowledged alot i just think your asking a lot at the moment given the fact they straight up said the effed up. lol
> >
> > They could admit it all day long dude, it wouldn’t make a difference.
>
> thats what im talking about. you say you want them to take responsibility and admit it. they do then you say that its a lie. then say your waiting you ANYTHING from them showing they care. then you say it wouldnt make a difference what they say.
>
> make up your mind man.
>
> good day.

You totally misunderstood that but whatever I guess. :confused: