I mean, yes we asked for a flat area that we could forge on…and they LITERALLY gave us 3 small islands. Nothing on them. Just…a flat circle. Was it really that hard to make this? Or were 343 just lazy?
At least its flat and its free…
New vehicle or forge pieces would have quelled a lot f the rioting that went on to this map.
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We asked for flat space and got it.
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It’s free.
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I’m happy with it. I don’t have to worry about an uncompromising landscape; I can just forge without restriction.
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It’s free.
Are you seriously complaining because 343i gave you exactly what the community asked for?
Some people even asked for a completely open and flat map in general. 343i added a bit of potential and room to work with vertical islands.
> Are you seriously complaining because 343i gave you exactly what <mark>you</mark> asked for?
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> Some people even asked for a completely open and flat map in general. 343i added a bit of potential and room to work with vertical islands.
I didn’t ask for a Flat piece of Bland land.
I agree. I was expecting Forge Island to be similar to Paradiso.
Also no new “Forging Environment” As well is something that really Irks me about that map as its like we haven’t seen enough of long green lands and sunny skies of reqreium.
> > Are you seriously complaining because 343i gave you exactly what <mark>you</mark> asked for?
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> > Some people even asked for a completely open and flat map in general. 343i added a bit of potential and room to work with vertical islands.
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> I didn’t ask for a Flat piece of Bland land.
Sorry, I assumed overgeneralizing and acting as if everyone shared your opinion was a thing around here.
Yes, you specifically didn’t ask that. But ‘you’ has different forms, ‘you’ can be addressing a larger crowd of people. Such as, specifically, the forgers that begged for flat land and criticized the 3 forge maps for not having flat land. The many threads asking for open, flat land.
But I’ll change it to “the community”.
And they did add new peices for this map.
And if 343i did something without water, people would complain. I believe they said water is accessible in this map. Islands work best, and the sunny skies of Requiem fit nicely. Besides, a completely flat desert or asteroid would look really awkward. Islands can naturally be flat, but a completely flat asteroid kind of looks man-made and a desert is supposed to have dunes and hills. Thisnenvironment fit the best.
What WAS everyone asking for then? The majority of voices I heard wanted a natural flat foundation for their maps, and that is obviously who 343 heard as well.
Do you guys, who wanted Paradiso or something similar, actually forge completed maps on a regular basis?
Who likes coliseum walls to be the foundation of their maps? No one! We needed this desperately.
Where were many of the forge maps that made to onto matchmaking made? On a mountain side in Forge? Or up where asylum was, or blood gulch. People needed a flat space. And that’s what people used the most.
I’m sure we will get something more like forge world for the next title, but there is no point in crying over FREE content. It may not be perfect but a large complex space with halo 4 graphic probably would’t run well on Halo 4. Consider how leggy simplex gets for goodness sake. The community asked for flat, and the community asked for big. 343 gave us something quickly, that fit what people wanted, and did it for free. I’m sure remaking forge world wasn’t in the cards for this title otherwise they would have done it, and if they tried to do it post launch how long do you think it would take to get it? We certainly wouldn’t be getting it in April, and if we got it any later how many more people would have left the community? This is when and how this free forge dlc had to happen. People are overjoyed, people aren’t out any money, and most of all there are still people to please.
> <mark>What WAS everyone asking for then?</mark> The majority of voices I heard wanted a natural flat foundation for their maps, and that is obviously who 343 heard as well.
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> Do you guys, who wanted Paradiso or something similar, actually forge completed maps on a regular basis?
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> Who likes coliseum walls to be the foundation of their maps? No one! We needed this desperately.
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> Where were many of the forge maps that made to onto matchmaking made? On a mountain side in Forge? Or up where asylum was, or blood gulch. People needed a flat space. And that’s what people used the most.
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> I’m sure we will get something more like forge world for the next title, but there is no point in crying over FREE content. It may not be perfect but a large complex space with halo 4 graphic probably would’t run well on Halo 4. Consider how leggy simplex gets for goodness sake. The community asked for flat, and the community asked for big. 343 gave us something quickly, that fit what people wanted, and did it for free. I’m sure remaking forge world wasn’t in the cards for this title otherwise they would have done it, and if they tried to do it post launch how long do you think it would take to get it? We certainly wouldn’t be getting it in April, and if we got it any later how many more people would have left the community? This is when and how this free forge dlc had to happen. People are overjoyed, people aren’t out any money, and most of all there are still people to please.
I’m pretty sure it was Forge world. I don’t care if it would have been exactly the same being imported straight from reach but to just have a huge space.
We got a huge space which i’m happy about. the only thing that is REALLY letting me down now is the UNSC flying vehicles. I hope there is a hornet or faclon or what i really really want: Hornet AND falcon
considering it’s free i don’t see why people are flipping out. i along with many other players who up and left the franchise until it gets better should realise that their veiw of what halo SHOULD be is not happening with this game and never will. it’s halo 5 or bust. the reason people are probably a bit miffed is because h3 sandbox provided alot of entertainment, though it was also due to gametype malleability and the jumps, weapons, forge pieces, triple level scheme and dark claustrophobic atmosphere.
> I mean, yes we asked for a flat area that we could forge on…and they LITERALLY gave us 3 small islands. Nothing on them. Just…a flat circle. Was it really that hard to make this? Or were 343 just lazy?
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> At least its flat and its free…
What source do you get your info from?
Cause that source is appalling, the largest island is almost as big as the “Paradiso” Island on Reach, which is pretty friggin huge if it were flat.
> I mean, yes we asked for a flat area that we could forge on…and they LITERALLY gave us 3 small islands. Nothing on them. Just…a flat circle. Was it really that hard to make this? Or were 343 just lazy?
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> At least its flat and its free…
Flat with nothing is good. Some of the best Forged customs games ever made were on Sandbox. Was it hard, probably because they have to mix coding, add the new forge items, and make the lighting for the pieces. Did it take long, I don’t know, probably not. I doubt 343 was lazy.
Flat is good and 3 islands of varying size is a beautiful thing in the eyes of some Forgers. Sorry if you can’t see it that way.
the flat is good, my only issue with it is that we were not given a unique atmosphere. It is essentially the same as Requiem. This isn’t a huge deal, I just think that if say they had done even a sandbox remake or something similar, flat and not green with blue skies, their would be next to no people questioning this at all. Plus that is one thing that Halo 4 from the start has been pretty good at: keeping the maps looking different and fresh from each other.
But it is free, so happy day!
people ask for a forge world as big as the original forge world
forge island is as big as forge world
people ask for it to have a good space where you can forge
forge island is flat so you forge more easily
people say that it should be free
forge island is free
people still complain
343i cant win
Some people are never happy.
> people ask for a forge world as big as the original forge world
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> forge island is as big as forge world
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> people ask for it to have a good space where you can forge
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> forge island is flat so you forge more easily
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> people say that it should be free
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> forge island is free
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> people still complain
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> 343i cant win
TBH, i have specific reasons why i dislike the Forge Island map and yes, it is too flat. Like i said, i was expecting a map like Paradiso. However, players could remake Asylum, Pinnacle, and Temple. Other than that, its fine.
I supposed forgers would love completily flat spaces… as much as a painting starts on a blank canvas. A flat space is basically ideal for forgers. Some of the best maps in my opinion were forged ones, so with this they have (almost) all the tools to make some incredible ones, even with lack of hills, or vehicles.
It would be almost like forging on H3, which, even though difficult (for me at least) they manage to do awesome things in there.
So we have 3 flat spaces, all different sizes, on a classic looking Halo world (Green grass, blue skies, water), with new and old pallets to work with, its free of charge and we are complaining?
They gave us flat lands + new pieces = I’m a happy forger.