Forge has a bad rap in Halo 4, how many of you go play reach maps nowadays? i bet more play Halo 4 forge, yes Forge World was great but 343i needs to set thier own path with forge, one thing we need is the gametypes (Race, Assault, 1flag) but other than that forge is improving, we are getting support with the new Forge island map which is a good sign, 343i seems to be heading down the “more features” route rather than lets make “cool maps” route, it shows with things like the green screen and gravity volumes, i think its a good approach as in the future i hope we are creating entire maps instead of editing pre-made maps ala forge world, lets discuss leave me your thoughts!!
I gotta say, 343 sucks, but they really did well with forge island. Lots of open space, trees, and the tools for the job. Hell, it’s even free so we won’t even have the problems that we had with sandbox and foundry.
> I gotta say, 343 sucks, but they really did well with forge island. Lots of open space, trees, and the tools for the job. Hell, it’s even free so we won’t even have the problems that we had with sandbox and foundry.
Your kidding right? the tree’s mention are all pretty much the same, the sandbox is probably of the most smallest maps I have seen so far, on top of that we can get less options than we have in any other map, I saw more options in ‘Impact’.
> > I gotta say, 343 sucks, but they really did well with forge island. Lots of open space, trees, and the tools for the job. Hell, it’s even free so we won’t even have the problems that we had with sandbox and foundry.
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> Your kidding right? the tree’s mention are all pretty much the same, the sandbox is probably of the most smallest maps I have seen so far, on top of that we can get less options than we have in any other map, I saw more options in ‘Impact’.
Forge Island? Small? You ever tried to reach the boundry of the map?
Now all we need are all the good custom games and options back. Then we will be in business. Forge is only as good as the available game types. I wish 343 would stop wasting so much time trying to fix matchmaking and start working on forge and custom game options for once.
> > > I gotta say, 343 sucks, but they really did well with forge island. Lots of open space, trees, and the tools for the job. Hell, it’s even free so we won’t even have the problems that we had with sandbox and foundry.
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> > Your kidding right? the tree’s mention are all pretty much the same, the sandbox is probably of the most smallest maps I have seen so far, on top of that we can get less options than we have in any other map, I saw more options in ‘Impact’.
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> Forge Island? Small? You ever tried to reach the boundry of the map?
Compare it to forgeworld. You can get across forge island pretty quickly while forge world is ten times better. The islands aren’t that big.
> > > > I gotta say, 343 sucks, but they really did well with forge island. Lots of open space, trees, and the tools for the job. Hell, it’s even free so we won’t even have the problems that we had with sandbox and foundry.
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> > > Your kidding right? the tree’s mention are all pretty much the same, the sandbox is probably of the most smallest maps I have seen so far, on top of that we can get less options than we have in any other map, I saw more options in ‘Impact’.
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> > Forge Island? Small? You ever tried to reach the boundry of the map?
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> Compare it to forgeworld. You can get across forge island pretty quickly while forge world is ten times better. The islands aren’t that big.
The islands aren’t that big because the XBOX 360 hardware can’t handle it, but how much space do you really need to make a great map?
I love forge Island. The rocks, trees and forge space are amazing.
My only complaint is the bland, grey pallet. Literally everything is grey with no color deviation, and it’s almost impossible to make something look good without rocks on this map…
> The islands aren’t that big because the XBOX 360 hardware can’t handle it, but how much space do you really need to make a great map?[/color]
Is this a joke? Plenty of games have bigger terrain, expands further, the xbox 360 is able of making endless terrain if it wanted to, the only problem is the terrible graphics engine for halo 4 that’s holding it back which is why Halo reach was able to expand further than the small islands. A ‘great’ map can only be made with the right resources, the right types of terrain, well the forge island is neither suited for making good level designs, lacks any content also look up far cry editor since has a load of different options to choose from. Also I have a degree in games design so I’m telling you from my own experience that most of the environment is wasted on ‘pretty effects’ in the ‘background’, too often hackers have ‘bypassed’ those area’s without performance issue’s and the only thing more space is going to create problems for is increasing your hard drive space.
Ps please reframe from using stupid colors in text since it makes it harder to read, harder for me to take anyone serious, sorry if that sounded like flaming but it really doesn’t help anyone when using the most conflicting color in the forums.
> > > > > I gotta say, 343 sucks, but they really did well with forge island. Lots of open space, trees, and the tools for the job. Hell, it’s even free so we won’t even have the problems that we had with sandbox and foundry.
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> > > > Your kidding right? the tree’s mention are all pretty much the same, the sandbox is probably of the most smallest maps I have seen so far, on top of that we can get less options than we have in any other map, I saw more options in ‘Impact’.
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> > > Forge Island? Small? You ever tried to reach the boundry of the map?
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> > Compare it to forgeworld. You can get across forge island pretty quickly while forge world is ten times better. The islands aren’t that big.
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> The islands aren’t that big because the XBOX 360 hardware can’t handle it, but how much space do you really need to make a great map?
I hate it when people say that the 360 can’t handle more. Forge World was a lot more than this graphically, and it was on the 360. That being said, Forge World may have had more land area, but Forge island’s borders are much larger, especially the height cap (about twice forge world). It is bigger, but less complicated, which is what a lot of forgers wanted.
> I like you said forge island is smaller than forge world
> what a joke
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> Try walking across the big island
> that about half of forge world right there
As if, trying going across forgeworld using oracle, time the distance compared to the forge rocks…
Heck they basically dumped down it to be a barely interesting attempt at forgeworld but this time with less content.
> I think he meant the Sandbox…
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> Now all we need are all the good custom games and options back. Then we will be in business. Forge is only as good as the available game types. I wish 343 would stop wasting so much time trying to fix matchmaking and start working on forge and custom game options for once.
I agree. The MM is fine IMO. Its the custom games that need an inprovment. I only found out about Forge Island yesterday because thats when I turned my Xbox on for the first time in a while. I was really surprised and happy.
> > > > > > I gotta say, 343 sucks, but they really did well with forge island. Lots of open space, trees, and the tools for the job. Hell, it’s even free so we won’t even have the problems that we had with sandbox and foundry.
> > > > >
> > > > > Your kidding right? the tree’s mention are all pretty much the same, the sandbox is probably of the most smallest maps I have seen so far, on top of that we can get less options than we have in any other map, I saw more options in ‘Impact’.
> > > >
> > > > Forge Island? Small? You ever tried to reach the boundry of the map?
> > >
> > > Compare it to forgeworld. You can get across forge island pretty quickly while forge world is ten times better. The islands aren’t that big.
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> > The islands aren’t that big because the XBOX 360 hardware can’t handle it, but how much space do you really need to make a great map?
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> I hate it when people say that the 360 can’t handle more. Forge World was a lot more than this graphically, and it was on the 360. That being said, Forge World may have had more land area, but Forge island’s borders are much larger, especially the height cap (about twice forge world). It is bigger, but less complicated, which is what a lot of forgers wanted.
I did ask alot of forgers i know and they wanted flat spaces. I dont know why people would want to have it complicated in forging stuff.
> > The islands aren’t that big because the XBOX 360 hardware can’t handle it, but how much space do you really need to make a great map?[/color]
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> Is this a joke? Plenty of games have bigger terrain, expands further, the xbox 360 is able of making endless terrain if it wanted to, the only problem is the terrible graphics engine for halo 4 that’s holding it back which is why Halo reach was able to expand further than the small islands. A ‘great’ map can only be made with the right resources, the right types of terrain, well the forge island is neither suited for making good level designs, lacks any content also look up far cry editor since has a load of different options to choose from. Also I have a degree in games design so I’m telling you from my own experience that most of the environment is wasted on ‘pretty effects’ in the ‘background’, too often hackers have ‘bypassed’ those area’s without performance issue’s and the only thing more space is going to create problems for is increasing your hard drive space.
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> Ps please reframe from using stupid colors in text since it makes it harder to read, harder for me to take anyone serious, sorry if that sounded like flaming but it really doesn’t help anyone when using the most conflicting color in the forums.
You might be right, but then again how much space do you need to make a great map. The space given is more than enough to build Ragnarok 15 times.
EDIT: It’s free! Are you expecting a bigger map? be grateful that they gave us a huge map with more than enough space to forge around.