"Forerunners defeated humans once!" Huh?

I am in a battle on mission ‘Glassed’. During a fight with a soldier he said, “Forerunners defeated humans once!” I always thought forerunners were the ‘past’ humans. Does this go deeper than I thought? I thought the promeatheans were built by the forerunners?

Did you miss some intel on Halo 4? Seems like you did.

Forerunners are not ancient humans, but a completely different race. There was a time in history where the humans fought against the Forerunners, in which the humans were defeated and devolved into many lesser subspecies of human.
Arguably, the main reason the Forerunner won was because Humanity was fighting on two fronts, with the Forerunner on one side, and the Flood on the other.

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> I am in a battle on mission ‘Glassed’. During a fight with a soldier he said, “Forerunners defeated humans once!” I always thought forerunners were the ‘past’ humans. Does this go deeper than I thought? I thought the promeatheans were built by the forerunners?

Haha, oh dear. Halo has a huge content of back content. Get the Forerunner trilogy of books by Greg Bear for your answers.

Or ask me nicely and I`ll spoiler away.

No jokes

Humans were once the most advanced, they released the flood accidentally and started destroying infected planets, some forerunner. The forerunners were furious namely the didact. He wanted to kill all humans, but the Librarian, a life-giver, devolved Humans to cavemen like race.

There were past humans and forerunners and before them were precursors, the precursors was gonna give the mantle to past humans forerunners got all jelly killed the precursors which turning into the flood as a failsafe and because the forerunners were terrible with the mantle no one was ready for the flood humans tried to help kill the flood by “trimming” planet populations which started a war with forerunner and humans to stop the humans from killing while the humans also were running from the flood and trying to keep the flood from killing off other species didact was the leader of that war were he won.
links for more in depth info
Didact
Precursors
Past humans
H4 terminal video (explains parts of the war)
Flood and Precursors (look at origins)
The mantle

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> I am in a battle on mission ‘Glassed’. During a fight with a soldier he said, “Forerunners defeated humans once!” I always thought forerunners were the ‘past’ humans. Does this go deeper than I thought? I thought the promeatheans were built by the forerunners?

Ancient Humanity and the Forerunners existed at the same time, Humanity and the Prophets (who were allied) discovered the Flood first and started fighting them and eventually kinda won because the Flood retreated from the galaxy. In the process of this the Humans found some Flood on Forerunner worlds so instead of warning them and giving the parasite time to do it’s thing the Humans immediately destroyed these planets. The Forerunners took it as an act of war and the Forerunner-Human war started, which Humanity eventually lost to being weak from fighting the Flood and as a result our species was de-evolved to the stone age and restricted to our home world. A number of the Prometheans are composed Humans, both ancient and modern.

This is really TL;DR but it should nail most of the major points.

Early Prometheans are ancient humans after being composed.

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> Humans were once the most advanced, they released the flood accidentally and started destroying infected planets, some forerunner. The forerunners were furious namely the didact. He wanted to kill all humans, but the Librarian, a life-giver, devolved Humans to cavemen like race.

No. Forerunners, humans and the prophets race (I forgot the name of it :I) we’re the most advance. The human’s didn’t release the flood. The flood wasn’t contained until the forerunners won the human forerunner war and we don’t know who specifically devolved the humans. Maybe the librarian maybe not.

Basically, the lore is precursors created life so when they came to the milky way, the created a whole bunch of different races. Than they wanted to pass on the mantle of responsibility to another race so they created a race. We don’t have a name but this race was a combination of humans and forerunners. Than they precursors split the race apart so there are two different races. Humans and forerunners. Millions of years pass and everyone forgot about that event, than the history after that isn’t relevant to your question :^). But the forerunners and humans fought a war and the forerunners beat the humans so ya, the forerunners did defeat the humans once. Prometheans are “past” humans and forerunner knights. The forerunner knights gave their lives to become prometheans to combat the flood but when it wasn’t enough, the didact went and composed a bunch of cavemen humans against their will to convert them into prometheans so he would have more firepower.

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> No. Forerunners, humans and the prophets race (I forgot the name of it :I) we’re the most advance. The human’s didn’t release the flood. The flood wasn’t contained until the forerunners won the human forerunner war and we don’t know who specifically devolved the humans. Maybe the librarian maybe not.

Yes, we do know the librarian devolved humans. It shows in one of the terminals. It shows that being a life-giver she has a ton of compassion and fondness for humans, hence why she devolved them. I can’t remember if this was before or after she sealed her husband, the ur-didact away though.

Wow! Thanks Halo community. Looks like I missed a few things.

Thank you.

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> Early Prometheans are ancient humans after being composed.

This is interesting, because there are times in the Lore (Halo Legends and Forerunner saga) where the Prometheans are spoken of in a way that suggests that they were not always mechanical as we see them in game, or at least that they were not all originally composed humans, perhaps composed Forerunner. (Librarian refers to composed Forerunners as monstrosities).

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In the Halo 4 terminals, the Didact’s personal guard refers to itself as a Promethean before it is composed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ewlST4JW00&t=08m30s

Afterwards he says he has led “You, my Prometheans” for thousands of years. They were definitely not always mechanical.

Humans used to be space faring. We were powerful. We accidentally found the flood which caused us to flee. Forerunners took this as a sign of aggression and declared war. We fought them AND the flood and almost won. However, when we lost the Didact, out of spite, genetically rolled us back to cavemen.

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> I am in a battle on mission ‘Glassed’. During a fight with a soldier he said, “Forerunners defeated humans once!” I always thought forerunners were the ‘past’ humans. Does this go deeper than I thought? I thought the promeatheans were built by the forerunners?

If you haven’t played Halo 4, or read the Forerunner trilogy, or even accessed the Terminals in Halo 3, then your confusion is understandable. When Bungie created Halo CE, they originally intended for Humans to be descended from Humans; this is implied by 343 Guilty Spark who speaks to the Chief as if he knew him, as well as calling him Reclaimer. And the reason that the Covenant Hierarchs declared a genocidal war against Humanity was because they knew that they were descended from Forerunners, thus implying that the Great Journey failed, and that their religion was false, so they sough to sweep Humans under the rug, as it were.
But as of the Halo 3 Terminals, this concept was retconned to having Humans and Forerunners as different species, but possibly sharing a common ancestry due to Precursor experiments.

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> This is interesting, because there are times in the Lore (Halo Legends and Forerunner saga) where the Prometheans are spoken of in a way that suggests that they were not always mechanical as we see them in game, or at least that they were not all originally composed humans, perhaps composed Forerunner. (Librarian refers to composed Forerunners as monstrosities).

Biological prometheans existed for over 10000 years before the robotic ones.

The humans were composed into robots because composing solely forerunner warriors wasnt boasting enough numbers.

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