Forced Crossplay ruined it

It has more to do with the gun shooting more and landing more shots because it’s being used at close range and is a faster shooting full auto gun stop using this biased argument. Guns won’t get the same amount of kills out of the same amount of bullets unless they’re the same gun.

I -Yoink!- you not, it is basic math.

Let’s say the AR as 36 rounds per magazine because I’m too lazy to count
I’m also gonna say it’s 12 rounds in a sidekick mag.

Now if it requires about a full mag to kill with body shots because if I do a full mag I’m gonna have to add on top of what we’re doing rn and I don’t really want to do that I don’t like math but I want you to understand.

But if we miss 2 rounds with the AR we would have a 94% accuracy because 34/36 = .94

If we miss 1 shot with the sidekick the accuracy drops to 91.6% since 11/12.

But if both will probably miss more shots with user error seeing as how everyone is complaining.

If you miss 7 rounds with the AR which I think equates to a full second of aiming off target your accuracy is still 80.6% ish

You miss 4 shots with a magnum and your accuracy dips all the way down to 66.7% ish.

Controller players are obviously using AR more since it’s easier to hit shots (that gun does have strong aim assist but it’s because the reticle size is huge) with and the pistol is too punishing for most of them.

Ranked still has pick ups and the BR isn’t that hard to use on either input. But the BR definitely does not have the same level of AA as the AR.

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They can keep it crossplay, but people should at least be able to choose in case they don’t want it.

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This is an old post but I’ll take any chance to bash forced crossplay. I’ve been playing halo my entire life. Since i was 5 years old and the OG xbox came out. Ive always been a good halo player, not Mint Blitz going around trickshotting everyone easily good but pretty solid. I can usually not play the game for weeks or months and be top of the scoreboard. So basically ive been playing shooters and especially halo for 20 years, I’ve hated crossplay since fortnite, my brother played on pc and always wanted me to play Fortnite on PC servers with him and obviously it was unfair playing prime fortnite against every wannabe Tfue and Ninja on pc while i had a measly Xbox One. Once fortnite became forced crossplay i completely stopped playing, during the Multiplayer Tech test for Infinite (I had 0 idea that xbox as a whole was forcing crossplay on several games at this point) i remember playing Bazaar and something just felt off. I was getting absolutely deleted from long range by Sidekicks within seconds. Even my BR wasnt able to break shields on some people’s from across the Courtyard highgrounds before i was dead to Sidekicks. Again at this point i had no idea that it was Forced crossplay but as a 2 decade halo/shooter vet i could just FEEL that something wasnt right. I googled it and sure enough there was already a few threads about it being forced crossplay but just using my experience i figured it out within minutes of playing. I dont care what anyone says. Im so tired of the “AuTo AiM” argument that PC players use. Aim assist is only good at close range and regardless of how you feel about it its not like Console players are PC players using a controller. We bought Consoles SPECIFICALLY to not play PC. If we wsnted to play PC you know what we would do? Play on pc. Crazy huh? But the “AuTo AiM” argument especially goes out the window when the game was designed and balanced around MnK play with precision/fast ttk weapond like the Snipers having basically 0 Aim assist or bullet magnetism, and halo has ALWAYS been about controlling power weapons. Swat is borderline unplayable in infinite because of all of the MnK bunny hop sliding flick shot dorks. Yesterday (February 28th 2023) Team Snipers was added as the weekly mode, the literal first thing that happened was i Spawned in and ran to the left and a guy across the map took the man cannon and was on my screen for maybe 2 seconds at best and insta 1 shot kill headshotted me from the air while flying bc MnK aim, within 2 minutes my entire team left because 3 players on the enemy team were MnK slide jump 180 bunny hop flickshotting insta killing everyone and we were down 14-3 at the start of the game. and i only say there was 3 of them because i didnt care to waste my time looking at the 4th guy to confirm what i already knew. I do the same thing as others have mentioned in this thread, the moment something suspect happens to me in this game i go to recent players to see what platform they’re on, im right 9/10 times and its almost always a PC player with like 300 gamerscore lol. There are some sick console players out there for sure that when combined with this games garbage Lag and desync make them look extremely sus, but i straight up see MnK players moving so hard their Spartan is literally breaking and their torso is facing 180 degrees away from where their legs are facing. Everytime i have ever been Ninja’d in this game is because an MnK player with 4969392995 DPI Repulsor tap strafed on me like we’re in apex and just somehow back smacks me. BF2042 is another example, forced crossplay with huge maps and MnK players using Fast ttk precision weapons eith ease from hundreds of meters away or gliding on wingsuits with snipers and stopping the wingsuit midair and getting sniper collats or headshots with robotic precision. in the xbox settings you can go in and disabke cross network play and your xbox physically bans crossplay, but in Halo infinite 343 thought they were being cute and designed the pc port to count as part of the “Xbox ecosystem” so as far as the network goes it counts PC players as Xbox’s. The new MW2 is forced crossplay on xbox and i refunded it within 4 hours. In my entire existence playing every cod since cod4 i have never been Nuked on xbox, in mw2022 i got nuked 3 straight games in a 4 hour period by PC players. I then turned crossplay off on my xbox settings and damn near got a nuke myself once the playing field was even. 343 being trash for its entjre existence and ruining halo paired with Xbox’s anti consumer forced crossplay movement have made me buy my first playstation since my dad got me a ps2 when i was like 3 or 4. Anyone who says Its Fair is either an MnK player trying to save face or its the typcial “git gud” neckbeard. And my favorite argument that people try to use to support forced crossplay is “Population support” like no. Thats a stupid argument. If 343 actually made a good game they wouldnt NEED to force crossplay, the population is dead af even WITH forced crossplay. I’d rather the game just die and they move on to another project at this point. The other thing is when people say “ThE mAjOrItY oF pC pLaYeRs HaVe Pc’s ThAt ArE wOrsE tHaN cOnsOlEs” lol like what? I highly doubt it, and even so the amount of customization you can do on any pc to gain an advantage is insane. Like no, anyone who agrees with Forced crossplay are delusional.

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There should be no crossplay in Ranked Arena. All other modes dont matter as much so that’s fine by me. But Ranked Arena should have the option, at the very least, to toggle off/on.

Ok to edit my post; I am “OK” with crossplay in Ranked Arena IF & ONLY IF its controller vs controller or kb/m vs kb/m.