Force to die: Heavy Vehicles grenades and you!

You know that feeling getting Level 5-8 REQs in Warzone and you feel like you can -Yoink- -Yoink- up with your Wraith, Tank or Mantis. You’re on a impressive killing spree and some guy comes on your heavy vehicle and plants a grenade, you think in your head “let me just step out the vehicle so i won’t die” and after constantly trying to eject to get out the vehicle the guy gets a free kill. Now your thinking WTF, why can’t i get out out of vehicles like in previous Halo’s when someone attempts to plant a grenade, or he made no effort to destroy the back of the vehicle to plant the grenade. Yeah i know how you feel, and I find this a huge problem when it comes to handling people on your heavy vehicles. You should be able to at least attempt to escape when someone does board your heavy vehicle and not to be forced in there until you die. IMO they should of kept the same way to destroy Tanks and Wraiths from the past games, beating the heavy vehicle till the hatch opens, then you’re free to throw a grenade inside, it feels like there is little to no effort at all to destroy heavy vehicles. One of the main reasons why i barely bring out heavy vehicles, cause your force to die when someone boards your vehicle unless your teammate saves you in time.

Do you guys think they should change it back to the old games, where you have to beat or destroy the vehicle cockpit to attempt planting a grenade inside?

I totally agree with you on that I mean it’s easy enough for 12 people to br you to death in a tank. … I do think quite a few vehicle changes need to be made ie bouncing wheeled vehicles earthly and goose are next to impossible to drive around without cartwheels galore or over sliding ghost has to be the most top heavy thing ever the oni warthog and goose need to protect the riders not just the paint job what’s the point of busting out the black gamers if you are 5shoted off there is probably more but I don’t have all the vehicles

I completely agree. Its the most frustrating thing in the world to bring out a oni scorpion for instance and just going through tunnel, having someone run up and jump on your tank and you just roll over and die without even a CHANCE to defend yourself. i would say this would be slightely more fair if we didnt have jetpacks, because they would actually have to chase you down, but now with jetpacks you are faster then a tank so trying to run is impossible, and trying to shoot them when they are standing on top of you is impossible.

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> I totally agree with you on that I mean it’s easy enough for 12 people to br you to death in a tank. … I do think quite a few vehicle changes need to be made ie bouncing wheeled vehicles earthly and goose are next to impossible to drive around without cartwheels galore or over sliding ghost has to be the most top heavy thing ever the oni warthog and goose need to protect the riders not just the paint job what’s the point of busting out the black gamers if you are 5shoted off there is probably more but I don’t have all the vehicles

I agree with you on the driving part, mongooses and warthogs feel like $1 Store cars you get as a kid and they just flip over.

you could NEVER get out of a vehicle that was boarded
the only issue now that needs to be fixed is that you can’t kill your boarder off with splash damage which is a terrible change

Well if someone comes running at you and you can’t kill them, get out before they board you…

I completely understand one grenade killing you when planted but, like you said, they should have to bust the hatch open or something before they get that choice. It’s a lot easier to do this now because of the boost feature. That combined with no way to eject out is something that needs to change. That’s why I don’t bring any vehicles out either until the Warden spawns or we have a big enough point lead that I know we’ll win. Vehicles are just to easy to destroy now(besides those damn Ghosts!) that I never even both to waste my points using them.

Agreed!

I’m glad the vehicle driver can’t kill you with splash damage anymore. It was frustrating boarding heavy vehicles, especially the Wraith, and getting killed by splash damage or sometimes getting killed by the shot apparently hitting you while you’re boarded (Wraith.) It would be a nice midle-ground if you had to melee the hatch before you put the grenade in though. It would encourage more teamwork.

I think two melee hits to open a hatch then a grenade plant, and splash damage needs to added. Now the melee hits, if someone only gets one hit the next person only needs one hit. If you use slash damage to kill the boarder then it counts as a hit against you as well.

Agreed.

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> Well if someone comes running at you and you can’t kill them, get out before they board you…

That’s not possible, not with the abysmal radar 343 gave us. By the time you notice someone approaching your tank, they’ve already boarded you.

This -Yoink- wouldn’t happen if the radar range wasn’t so short.

Seeing as the scorpion is faster than a sprinting and thrusting, maximally efficient spartan? I think that you deserve to die if you get boarded.

Protip. Advanced sensors perk. It’s a common req too. 40m radar range helps.

Vehicle boarding NEEDS to be easy like this, otherwise the entire map would get flooded in tanks. It’s not uncommon to see 6+ scorpion tanks in of the course of any given warzone game. If anything it should teach players No-no areas to drive the tanks. Pretty much 70% of the spire map is a death trap for any scorpion tank as there’s just too many intricate side paths and box cannon designs to flank it.

And you CAN still kill people with splash damage with the Wraith, just like you always could, it’s just less reliable now.

I think people need to use wraith tanks more, if you notice someone coming in for the board all you have to do is boost for a split second and they get splattered almost every time.

Seeing as I can’t spawn with plasma pistols and plasma grenades (the req mod? Don’t make me laugh) like halo 4 to deal with vehicle spam, this boarding action is the next best thing.

On another note, I’m not sure if it’s a bug or what but a ton of times I drive the wraith when I lose in it, the wraith explodes but I pop out of it with full shields…this happens allot. It’s like that one armor mod DLC from Halo 4 ejection.

I Totally Hate It also. For the longest I was getting so pissed as to y I couldn’t jump out when I got boarded. I finally figured out that u couldn’t. So then I started hanging back and giving support fire more. Now what I hate is the low range on the radar in a big vehicle such as a tank. If u use it for protection u r gonna die. “If” an enemy shows up its too late.

I would like this so there is just a little more time for teamates to shoot off the hijacker. i think 1 or 2 hits then grenade plant would be good. ATM team mates cant shoot off a hijacker in time, even with 2 people, so protecting a tank on most spots on the warzone maps is near impossible. Also planting grenades shouldn’t be the best way to kill a tank, it should be like all other halo games have been an uncommon way to kill a tank (get him doing this when hes unprotected). Weapons like the sparten laser, rocket, fuel rod, tier 3 rail gun ect exist to destroy these vehicles. Even boosts like camo and speed can be used and they only cost 3-4 req points

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> Seeing as the scorpion is faster than a sprinting and thrusting, maximally efficient spartan? I think that you deserve to die if you get boarded.

Dude have you tried this on warzone maps??? Most of the time is just not possiable to keep max speed. Also enemys can jump on the tank (from the front or side) then walk to the hijacking spot on the tank. That methpd can kind of work on ark but not the rest

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> Seeing as the scorpion is faster than a sprinting and thrusting, maximally efficient spartan? I think that you deserve to die if you get boarded.

Has this been tested? It seem like a fully sprinting/thrusting Spartan is at equal speed or even slightly faster than a full speed Scorpion.

Agreed. Why can’t I get out of my scorpion or wraith if there’s a Spartan ON THE BACK of the vehicle. It logically, physically, and spiritually makes no sense.