For those that don't want CHANGE...

This is not meant to cause offence. Just a insight into the minds of people who want Halo 2.5 or Halo 3.5.

Halo CE PC.
Halo 2 XBC.
Halo 3 360.

The games still exist, go play them.

Other franchises ship out carbon copies of their predecessors and they receive a lot of flak for it.

Do you want this to happen to Halo?

Tell me, complainers, answer these 5 questions.

If Halo didn’t need to change, then would you be happy with Halo CE for 10 years?
If Halo didn’t need to change, then why has every Halo game been monumentally different? Halo CE-2 had a huge change, so did 3, so did Reach.
If Halo didn’t need to change, then why aren’t you playing Halo 3 right now? It will never change for you.
If Halo didn’t need to change, and you guys think that your opinion is right and everyone else is wrong, why have you not been listened to?
And why are you guys arguing with us if you think that you are 100% correct?

Answer these 5 questions.

And before you say “GOOD CHANGE” and “BAD CHANGE”, that is subjective.

People hated Halo 2’s change from CE, people loved it. Same with Halo 3, same with Reach. Each Halo game has been labelled the worst Halo in the series.

Custom loadouts, armor abilities, sprint. I don’t want halo: Reach 2. You’ve been complaining for a new Halo instead of a 3.5 yet you forget that Halo 4 sounds like Reach with the same idea of gameplay.

> Custom loadouts, armor abilities, sprint. I don’t want halo: Reach 2. You’ve been complaining for a new Halo instead of a 3.5 yet you forget that Halo 4 sounds like Reach with the same idea of gameplay.

You failed to answer the questions. I did not even state my opinion on this subject.

Nor was I complaining.

I want to play Halo 4, not any remakes of the others. If I want to play Halo 3/2/CE, I will play them. I don’t want to pay more money for the same game. It just seems pointless.

> Halo CE PC.
> Halo 2 XBC.
> Halo 3 360.
>
> The games still exist, go play them.
>
> Other franchises ship out carbon copies of their predecessors and they receive a lot of flak for it.
>
> Do you want this to happen to Halo?
>
> Tell me, complainers, answer these 5 questions.
>
> If Halo didn’t need to change, then would you be happy with Halo CE for 10 years?
> If Halo didn’t need to change, then why has every Halo game been monumentally different? Halo CE-2 had a huge change, so did 3, so did Reach.
> If Halo didn’t need to change, then why aren’t you playing Halo 3 right now? It will never change for you.
> If Halo didn’t need to change, and you guys think that your opinion is right and everyone else is wrong, why have you not been listened to?
> And why are you guys arguing with us if you think that you are 100% correct?
>
> Answer these 5 questions.
>
> And before you say “GOOD CHANGE” and “BAD CHANGE”, that is subjective.
>
> People hated Halo 2’s change from CE, people loved it. Same with Halo 3, same with Reach. Each Halo game has been labelled the worst Halo in the series.

So, you’ve read over all these threads and you still don’t understand a word that was said in them.

CHANGE IS NOT A BAD THING. INNEQUALITY AT THE START OF A MATCH IS. IT MAKES THE GAME LESS COMPETITIVE AND SKILL BASED BY DEFAULT.
YOU KEEP SAYING, “GO BACK AND PLAY HALO 2”. IF YOU WANT AN UNBALANCED GAME THAT LETS EVERYONE PLAY ON UNEQUAL PLAYING FIELDS, GO PLAY CALL OF DUTY.

For the record, halo 2 can’t be played online.

> I want to play Halo 4, not any remakes of the others. If I want to play Halo 3/2/CE, I will play them. I don’t want to pay more money for the same game. It just seems pointless.

Thanks for contributing for the other side.

> Custom loadouts, armor abilities, sprint. I don’t want halo: Reach 2. You’ve been complaining for a new Halo instead of a 3.5 yet you forget that Halo 4 sounds like Reach with the same idea of gameplay.

Halo 4 doesn’t look similar to Halo Reach. Watch the gameplay and read Q&As and you’ll know that the gameplay is very different. It’s being made by a different company and I doubt they’re going to copy Halo Reach. They want to make their own unique game. Just because it has sprint and custom abilities doesn’t mean it’s a clone of Reach.

Anyway, the game hasn’t come out so we should at least give it a chance.

> > Halo CE PC.
> > Halo 2 XBC.
> > Halo 3 360.
> >
> > The games still exist, go play them.
> >
> > Other franchises ship out carbon copies of their predecessors and they receive a lot of flak for it.
> >
> > Do you want this to happen to Halo?
> >
> > Tell me, complainers, answer these 5 questions.
> >
> > If Halo didn’t need to change, then would you be happy with Halo CE for 10 years?
> > If Halo didn’t need to change, then why has every Halo game been monumentally different? Halo CE-2 had a huge change, so did 3, so did Reach.
> > If Halo didn’t need to change, then why aren’t you playing Halo 3 right now? It will never change for you.
> > If Halo didn’t need to change, and you guys think that your opinion is right and everyone else is wrong, why have you not been listened to?
> > And why are you guys arguing with us if you think that you are 100% correct?
> >
> > Answer these 5 questions.
> >
> > And before you say “GOOD CHANGE” and “BAD CHANGE”, that is subjective.
> >
> > People hated Halo 2’s change from CE, people loved it. Same with Halo 3, same with Reach. Each Halo game has been labelled the worst Halo in the series.
>
> So, you’ve read over all these threads and you still don’t understand a word that was said in them.
>
> CHANGE IS NOT A BAD THING. INNEQUALITY AT THE START OF A MATCH IS. IT MAKES THE GAME LESS COMPETITIVE AND SKILL BASED BY DEFAULT.
> YOU KEEP SAYING, “GO BACK AND PLAY HALO 2”. IF YOU WANT AN UNBALANCED GAME THAT LETS EVERYONE PLAY ON UNEQUAL PLAYING FIELDS, GO PLAY CALL OF DUTY.
>
> For the record, <mark>halo 2 can’t be played online.</mark>

Ever heard of Xbox Connect? Or Halo 2 Vista?

Thanks for failing to answer the questions.

i answered every question.

Halo DOES need change.

Why are you arguing if you’re 100% correct?

> <mark>i answered every question.</mark>
>
> Halo DOES need change.
>
> Why are you arguing if you’re 100% correct?

I never stated that. I have 5 questions in the thread, you haven’t answered them yet.

Ahh the good old change thread.

  1. If Halo didn’t need to change, then would you be happy with Halo CE for 10 years?

  2. If Halo didn’t need to change, then why has every Halo game been monumentally different? Halo CE-2 had a huge change, so did 3, so did Reach.

  3. If Halo didn’t need to change, then why aren’t you playing Halo 3 right now? It will never change for you.

  4. If Halo didn’t need to change, and you guys think that your opinion is right and everyone else is wrong, why have you not been listened to?

  5. And why are you guys arguing with us if you think that you are 100% correct?

  6. No.

  7. they do need change, idiot… i already said that.
    halo 2 and 3 didn’t change starting elements to add massive amount of innequality to the game. Halo 4 also has facts released that suggest inequality and this is a horrifying thought.

  8. It did need change… like i said… again… but since you brought it up, I cant find games on my MLG 50.

  9. Because game developers for some reason, cater to casual players more often than competitive. This intern generally devalues skill gap.

  10. Because were 100% and for some reason you don’t see it. Its frustrating when people don’t see something so blatantly obvious in front of there own nose.

> 1. If Halo didn’t need to change, then would you be happy with Halo CE for 10 years?
> 2. If Halo didn’t need to change, then why has every Halo game been monumentally different? Halo CE-2 had a huge change, so did 3, so did Reach.
> 3. If Halo didn’t need to change, then why aren’t you playing Halo 3 right now? It will never change for you.
> 4. If Halo didn’t need to change, and you guys think that your opinion is right and everyone else is wrong, why have you not been listened to?
> 5. And why are you guys arguing with us if you think that you are 100% correct?
>
> 1. No.
> 2. they do need change, idiot… i already said that.
> halo 2 and 3 didn’t change starting elements to add massive amount of innequality to the game. Halo 4 also has facts released that suggest inequality and this is a horrifying thought.
> 3. It did need change… like i said… again… but since you brought it up, I cant find games on my MLG 50.
> 4. Because game developers for some reason, cater to casual players more often than competitive. This intern generally devalues skill gap.
> 5. Because were 100% and for some reason you don’t see it. Its frustrating when people don’t see something so blatantly obvious in front of there own nose.

This guy speaks the truth

> 1. If Halo didn’t need to change, then would you be happy with Halo CE for 10 years?
> 2. If Halo didn’t need to change, then why has every Halo game been monumentally different? Halo CE-2 had a huge change, so did 3, so did Reach.
> 3. If Halo didn’t need to change, then why aren’t you playing Halo 3 right now? It will never change for you.
> 4. If Halo didn’t need to change, and you guys think that your opinion is right and everyone else is wrong, why have you not been listened to?
> 5. And why are you guys arguing with us if you think that you are 100% correct?
>
> 1. No.
> 2. they do need change, idiot… i already said that.
> halo 2 and 3 di<mark>dn’t change starting elements to add massive amount of innequality</mark> to the game. Halo 4 also has facts released that suggest inequality and this is a horrifying thought.
> 3. It did need change… like i said… again… but since you brought it up, I cant find games on my MLG 50.
> 4. Because game developers for some reason, cater to casual players more often than competitive. This intern generally devalues skill gap.
> 5. Because were 100% and for some reason you don’t see it. Its frustrating when people don’t see something so blatantly obvious in front of there own nose.

You didn’t read the thread did you? Nice opinion, it is no more accurate than anyone else’s.

> > 1. If Halo didn’t need to change, then would you be happy with Halo CE for 10 years?
> > 2. If Halo didn’t need to change, then why has every Halo game been monumentally different? Halo CE-2 had a huge change, so did 3, so did Reach.
> > 3. If Halo didn’t need to change, then why aren’t you playing Halo 3 right now? It will never change for you.
> > 4. If Halo didn’t need to change, and you guys think that your opinion is right and everyone else is wrong, why have you not been listened to?
> > 5. And why are you guys arguing with us if you think that you are 100% correct?
> >
> > 1. No.
> > 2. they do need change, idiot… i already said that.
> > halo 2 and 3 di<mark>dn’t change starting elements to add massive amount of innequality</mark> to the game. Halo 4 also has facts released that suggest inequality and this is a horrifying thought.
> > 3. It did need change… like i said… again… but since you brought it up, I cant find games on my MLG 50.
> > 4. Because game developers for some reason, cater to casual players more often than competitive. This intern generally devalues skill gap.
> > 5. Because were 100% and for some reason you don’t see it. Its frustrating when people don’t see something so blatantly obvious in front of there own nose.
>
> You didn’t read the thread did you? Nice opinion, it is no more accurate than anyone else’s.

God, you really are dumb if you still haven’t realized that inconsistency as far as core game mechanics go leads to less skill and more luck. Imagine your br shot 3 shots sometimes and 7 shots the next. or sometimes you jumped cross map but sometimes you jumped .5 feet.

Yeah, your right. everything should be inconsistent and unequal at all times, it finally makes sense. its the only way to have a fair playing field. starting everybody with the same chance is so dumb of me!@!@!

halo needs some change, yes. but turning the xboxs best competitive FPS into a game where casuals can gimmick their way into wins is certainly a bad change.

I’ll answer your questions just to make you happy:

  1. If Halo didn’t need to change, then would you be happy with Halo CE for 10 years?
  • I would be but there is no matchmaking system(which is a pain to only do xbc customs) and there aren’t any ranks to fight for
  1. If Halo didn’t need to change, then why has every Halo game been monumentally different? Halo CE-2 had a huge change, so did 3, so did Reach.
  • just because the games are different doesn’t mean they needed to change the way they did. halo was on a slow decline since halo 1 but halo reach is just terrible.
  1. If Halo didn’t need to change, then why aren’t you playing Halo 3 right now? It will never change for you.
  • I’d rather play reach online than deal the the crappy netcode from halo 3. the netcode was one of the few things they actually did right in reach.
  1. If Halo didn’t need to change, and you guys think that your opinion is right and everyone else is wrong, why have you not been listened to?
  • because people are ignorant. it’s the same with the bloom issue. lots of people love bloom when it’s widely excepted as a luck based mechanic by people who actually understand what it does to gameplay.
  1. And why are you guys arguing with us if you think that you are 100% correct?
  • because you’re wrong

now explain why halo needed the change it got from halo 3 to halo reach!

> I cant find games on my MLG 50.

That’s a bunch of crap.

> halo needs some change, yes. but turning the xboxs best competitive FPS into a game where casuals can gimmick their way into wins is certainly a bad change.
>
> I’ll answer your questions just to make you happy:
>
> 1. If Halo didn’t need to change, then would you be happy with Halo CE for 10 years?
>
> - I would be but there is no matchmaking system(which is a pain to only do xbc customs) and there aren’t any ranks to fight for
>
>
> 2. If Halo didn’t need to change, then why has every Halo game been monumentally different? Halo CE-2 had a huge change, so did 3, so did Reach.
>
> - just because the games are different doesn’t mean they needed to change the way they did. halo was on a slow decline since halo 1 but halo reach is just terrible.
>
>
> 3. If Halo didn’t need to change, then why aren’t you playing Halo 3 right now? It will never change for you.
>
> - I’d rather play reach online than deal the the crappy netcode from halo 3. the netcode was one of the few things they actually did right in reach.
>
>
> 4. If Halo didn’t need to change, and you guys think that your opinion is right and everyone else is wrong, why have you not been listened to?
>
> - because people are ignorant. it’s the same with the bloom issue. lots of people love bloom when it’s widely excepted as a luck based mechanic by people who actually understand what it does to gameplay.
>
> 5. And why are you guys arguing with us if you think that you are 100% correct?
>
> - because you’re wrong
>
>
> now explain why halo needed the change it got from halo 3 to halo reach!

Thanks for replying nicely. I don’t want to derail the thread so I won’t reply to the last comment. Another thread, maybe.

> > I cant find games on my MLG 50.
>
> That’s a bunch of crap.

It is :stuck_out_tongue: i can still find games.

but dont tell that doucher up there in the OP

If Halo didn’t need to change, then would you be happy with Halo CE for 10 years?

No

If Halo didn’t need to change, then why has every Halo game been monumentally different? Halo CE-2 had a huge change, so did 3, so did Reach.

halo did need change

If Halo didn’t need to change, then why aren’t you playing Halo 3 right now? It will never change for you.

halo did need change

If Halo didn’t need to change, and you guys think that your opinion is right and everyone else is wrong, why have you not been listened to?

halo did need change

And why are you guys arguing with us if you think that you are 100% correct?

I’m not arguing, halo does need change.

Happy now?