For the love of God, SHUT UP!

Games Halo 5: Guardians
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We get it!

“I don’t like the forged maps, or the remixed maps, or the recycled content on warzone. I’m frustrated with the lack of game types or the UI. I wish we had firefight or spartan ops. Forge should’ve been here at launch. Splitscreen should patched in”

I understand you are pissed off. But complaining it’s “cut content” or it should’ve been here in general won’t change a damn thing except split the community. Game development isn’t easy, you can’t make a map in a day or add a PVE in a week. It just doesn’t work like that. Honestly 343i is probably working at breakneck speed to release the stuff we’re getting monthly just so they can get -Yoinked!- at.

But honestly the remixed maps feel different to me. I camp in different locations, run different routes, use different guns. Eden and empire feel nothing alike. And if your only argument is “it’s forged” then that’s a bad argument. Some of the greatest maps in Halo were forged.

And back to forge, when they made those maps and the cartographers used it, it wasn’t done. One of them even said so himself that it wasn’t done when he used it. Why would they release a gamemode if it was just gonna get patched to become something better in 2 months or more especially since it would be harder?

And honestly I don’t know why game types aren’t in it but the amount of -Yoinking!- about it is far too much.

So here’s the thing, either don’t play it until what you want is released so you can show 343i that if you don’t get what you want then you and presumably a large group will leave. Or just shut up and play but crying AND playing ain’t gonna do -Yoink-.

Another thing, can you blame them for being cautious? Look at the games they’ve made. Halo 4 which had one of the fastest dying populations in any triple A, obviously they didn’t want this too be the case so they are releasing content post-launch. Then we have MCC where it had so much content that they couldn’t possibly fix all the bugs in the first month. I can understand why they would try and learn from these mistakes.

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no u

Nonconstructive OP, nonconstructive reply.

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> no u
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> Nonconstructive OP, nonconstructive reply.

I wasn’t trying to be constructive, just saying what’s annoying about the “community” and how you can either do something or shut up

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This community has been this way forever, as long as I can remember back to 2004.
I wouldn’t even waste your precious energy on typing in regards to them.

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I won’t bend over and gladly take in all of 343’s BS. I paid $80 CAD with tax for a half finished product. They had the same amount of development time every other Halo game had. There is no excuse for the blatant lack of the simplest things.

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> This community has been this way forever, as long as I can remember back to 2004.
> I wouldn’t even waste your precious energy on typing in regards to them.

I know… Just hoping it might do something.

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> I won’t bend over and gladly take in all of 343’s BS. I paid $80 CAD with tax for a half finished product. They had the same amount of development time every other Halo game had. There is no excuse for the blatant lack of the simplest things.

Of course it has about the same amount of time any other title has had, but what you fail to realize is the technology and standards of the time.
Halo 2 was released in 2004 and announced in 2002, roughly 2 years like Halo 5. However, the complexity in Halo 2 compared with Halo 5 is very large.
The same goes for all of the titles. The technology changes, the standards change, the styles change, things change.

Have you sat back at all and tried to look at some of the positives this game offers? I doubt it, almost everything I’ve seen you post is negative.

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> However, the complexity in Halo 2 compared with Halo 5 is very large.

Welp, I can’t deny that!

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> I won’t bend over and gladly take in all of 343’s BS. I paid $80 CAD with tax for a half finished product. They had the same amount of development time every other Halo game had. There is no excuse for the blatant lack of the simplest things.

Fair, but you don’t get to -Yoink- when those “simplest things” aren’t exactly how you want them or have bugs in them because they’ve never been done on this console before, and they didn’t have the time to polish it or iron out the bugs. I’m no happier than you are about the game missing things, but it’s MSofts fault for not giving them the time. You don’t think 343 would have said “Hey, we just need like 3 months to get forge polished up and some other things ironed out and then we’ll be set”? That they just said “-Yoink- it we’re done we can patch it later.” They were held to a release date and sometimes -Yoink- happens that you can’t control. I’d gladly take a fully polished game that is lacking SOME content over one that is exploding with all the things the people on here want but it’s broken as -Yoink- and full of bugs.

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> > 2533274826203061;5:
> > I won’t bend over and gladly take in all of 343’s BS. I paid $80 CAD with tax for a half finished product. They had the same amount of development time every other Halo game had. There is no excuse for the blatant lack of the simplest things.
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> Fair, but you don’t get to -Yoink- when those “simplest things” aren’t exactly how you want them or have bugs in them because they’ve never been done on this console before, and they didn’t have the time to polish it or iron out the bugs. I’m no happier than you are about the game missing things, but it’s MSofts fault for not giving them the time. You don’t think 343 would have said “Hey, we just need like 3 months to get forge polished up and some other things ironed out and then we’ll be set”? That they just said “-Yoink- it we’re done we can patch it later.” They were held to a release date and sometimes -Yoink- happens that you can’t control. I’d gladly take a fully polished game that is lacking SOME content over one that is exploding with all the things the people on here want but it’s broken as -Yoink- and full of bugs.

What this guy said.

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> I won’t bend over and gladly take in all of 343’s BS. I paid $80 CAD with tax for a half finished product. They had the same amount of development time every other Halo game had. There is no excuse for the blatant lack of the simplest things.

Disregard 60fps lock, Warzone systems (which are significant), dedicated servers, drop-in/drop-out co-op, significant map selection, vastly improved online hit registration, etc. Disregard the amount of content that was recycled from previous titles or campaign in Reach and 4 (which accounts for a good deal of the “missing” content). Disregard the fact that they said exactly what would be in the game at launch. Disregard the significantly rebuilt and expanded Forge (which no previous title really did). Disregard the staggered release model they outlined well before launch. Meek Meek Meek spent a lot of money on the game and has decided there is no excuse for getting what he paid for. Much sympathy, man. Really. “Don’t bend over and take” that financial transaction you willing participated in.

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> > 2533274826203061;5:
> > I won’t bend over and gladly take in all of 343’s BS. I paid $80 CAD with tax for a half finished product. They had the same amount of development time every other Halo game had. There is no excuse for the blatant lack of the simplest things.
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> Disregard 60fps lock, Warzone systems (which are significant), dedicated servers, drop-in/drop-out co-op, significant map selection, vastly improved online hit registration, etc. Disregard the amount of content that was recycled from previous titles or campaign in Reach and 4 (which accounts for a good deal of the “missing” content). Disregard the fact that they said exactly what would be in the game at launch. Disregard the significantly rebuilt and expanded Forge (which no previous title really did). Disregard the staggered release model they outlined well before launch. Meek Meek Meek spent a lot of money on the game and has decided there is no excuse for getting what he paid for. Much sympathy, man. Really. “Don’t bend over and take” that financial transaction you willing participated in.

I’m all for making the game better. That is why I complain. 60fps lock is not that big of a deal with how the game looks. Campaign looks better although. Significant map selection? Lol

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> Fair, but you don’t get to -Yoink- when those “simplest things” aren’t exactly how you want them or have bugs in them because they’ve never been done on this console before, and they didn’t have the time to polish it or iron out the bugs. I’m no happier than you are about the game missing things, but it’s MSofts fault for not giving them the time. You don’t think 343 would have said “Hey, we just need like 3 months to get forge polished up and some other things ironed out and then we’ll be set”? That they just said “-Yoink- it we’re done we can patch it later.” They were held to a release date and sometimes -Yoink- happens that you can’t control. I’d gladly take a fully polished game that is lacking SOME content over one that is exploding with all the things the people on here want but it’s broken as -Yoink- and full of bugs.

So, something as simple as the UI and lobby is garbage right now why? It was better in the beta and I do not see why it is worse now. Despite MCC being a buggy mess, it had retained content from the games, and it was done on the new console. This “new console” excuse is not that good of an argument seeing how other companies seem to have no problems. Bungie released H3 on a new console and they seemed to have enough time to make things work and have enough content to retain the player base for years.

Regardless, the “simplest things” are the simplest things and they should not be that difficult to get right.

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> Of course it has about the same amount of time any other title has had, but what you fail to realize is the technology and standards of the time.
> Halo 2 was released in 2004 and announced in 2002, roughly 2 years like Halo 5. However, the complexity in Halo 2 compared with Halo 5 is very large.
> The same goes for all of the titles. The technology changes, the standards change, the styles change, things change.
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> Have you sat back at all and tried to look at some of the positives this game offers? I doubt it, almost everything I’ve seen you post is negative.

There are positives of the game and certain aspects that I like. However, why would I voice them? Maybe if there was an appreciation thread than I might just post something nice. Also, I spent my own money to purchase their product; am I not entitled to have criticism if their product falls short and was sugar coated with misleading marketing?

Halo 2 was announced in 2002, but was probably in development right after CE, so roughly 3 years. Halo 5 was the same, minus the effort of the dedicated team working on the MCC. Did any consumer know that custom game options would be severely lacking? No. Did anyone know that the campaign would feature Blue Team for only 20% of the campaign? Once again no, but according to Frank this should not be the case.

When I purchase a car is it safe to assume it will come with all the standard and staple features that modern cars have due to their advancement throughout the past century? If I go to a dealership I am not going to receive a chassis, wheels, engine and steering wheel with the rest “coming soon.”

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Excellent post. It’s a shame it’ll fall on deaf ears.

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“Leave 343i alone! They’re giving us back this cut content later as “free”, they’ll do better next time!”

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The lack of gametypes and the lack of custom game options is a big problem with the game. 343 never once stated why they were left out or if/when they will be patched in. For a halo game the lack of content isn’t acceptable especially compared to older halo games that delivered more day 1 the H5. People are vocal about it because it’s an issue they want answers and not just swept under the rug like they don’t exist.

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> The lack of gametypes and the lack of custom game options is a big problem with the game. 343 never once stated why they were left out or if/when they will be patched in. For a halo game the lack of content isn’t acceptable especially compared to older halo games that delivered more day 1 the H5. People are vocal about it because it’s an issue they want answers and not just swept under the rug like they don’t exist.

“Get out of here with your logic and reasoning! 343i should be treated like a small child, if they mess up its okay! They’re just learning”

-Every 343i defender

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> We get it!
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> “I don’t like the forged maps, or the remixed maps, or the recycled content on warzone. I’m frustrated with the lack of game types or the UI. I wish we had firefight or spartan ops. Forge should’ve been here at launch. Splitscreen should patched in”
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> I understand you are pissed off. But complaining it’s “cut content” or it should’ve been here in general won’t change a damn thing except split the community. Game development isn’t easy, you can’t make a map in a day or add a PVE in a week. It just doesn’t work like that. Honestly 343i is probably working at breakneck speed to release the stuff we’re getting monthly just so they can get -Yoinked!- at.
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> But honestly the remixed maps feel different to me. I camp in different locations, run different routes, use different guns. Eden and empire feel nothing alike. And if your only argument is “it’s forged” then that’s a bad argument. Some of the greatest maps in Halo were forged.
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> And back to forge, when they made those maps and the cartographers used it, it wasn’t done. One of them even said so himself that it wasn’t done when he used it. Why would they release a gamemode if it was just gonna get patched to become something better in 2 months or more especially since it would be harder?
>
> And honestly I don’t know why game types aren’t in it but the amount of -Yoinking!- about it is far too much.
>
> So here’s the thing, either don’t play it until what you want is released so you can show 343i that if you don’t get what you want then you and presumably a large group will leave. Or just shut up and play but crying AND playing ain’t gonna do -Yoink-.

I mostly agree with you, but criticism is the only way that these devs know how to please their fans. Simple as that. If you act like nothing is wrong and just play the game like a good little fanboy, then 343 has no motivation to improve their product (which needs a lot of improvement).

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Don’t post titles like that in the forum please. You give the community a bad name.

Haha playing. Lil filthy around here yes. But don’t join the party!

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> > 2533274964200547;1:
> > We get it!
> >
> > “I don’t like the forged maps, or the remixed maps, or the recycled content on warzone. I’m frustrated with the lack of game types or the UI. I wish we had firefight or spartan ops. Forge should’ve been here at launch. Splitscreen should patched in”
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> > I understand you are pissed off. But complaining it’s “cut content” or it should’ve been here in general won’t change a damn thing except split the community. Game development isn’t easy, you can’t make a map in a day or add a PVE in a week. It just doesn’t work like that. Honestly 343i is probably working at breakneck speed to release the stuff we’re getting monthly just so they can get -Yoinked!- at.
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> > But honestly the remixed maps feel different to me. I camp in different locations, run different routes, use different guns. Eden and empire feel nothing alike. And if your only argument is “it’s forged” then that’s a bad argument. Some of the greatest maps in Halo were forged.
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> > And back to forge, when they made those maps and the cartographers used it, it wasn’t done. One of them even said so himself that it wasn’t done when he used it. Why would they release a gamemode if it was just gonna get patched to become something better in 2 months or more especially since it would be harder?
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> > And honestly I don’t know why game types aren’t in it but the amount of -Yoinking!- about it is far too much.
> >
> > So here’s the thing, either don’t play it until what you want is released so you can show 343i that if you don’t get what you want then you and presumably a large group will leave. Or just shut up and play but crying AND playing ain’t gonna do -Yoink-.
>
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> I mostly agree with you, but criticism is the only way that these devs know how to please their fans. Simple as that. If you act like nothing is wrong and just play the game like a good little fanboy, then 343 has no motivation to improve their product (which needs a lot of improvement).

I definitely agree with that. Hence why I’m saying something now instead of 2 months ago. At the beginning it was actually criticism with actual ideas and realistic expectations. Now it’s just temper tantrums.