For Halo 4 to Succeed

343 Industries,

First off let me say that I’ve been a Halo player since 13 years of age and with each and every game that has been made after the release of Halo the quality of the online game-play has deteriorated. I speak on behalf of everyone who started off with Halo 2 we all agree that Halo has been the greatest of all the games thus far and definitely the best game of all time. Once again I’m speaking for 95% of people who played Halo 2. First off the halo reach ranking system is abysmal. fairly talented players like myself play against extremely high ranks and don’t even get a competition. The ranking system in Halo 2 was the best, and Halo 3 was not far off. What makes those systems stand out is that your matched with similar skill level players. Quit trying to comply and compete with ranking systems in Call of Duty where its almost a socialistic ranking system and even the low level players are rewarded with a rank. If you want to be the leader in game making go back to your roots in Halo 2 where that revolutionary game set a precedent for all the games to come after it. The ranking system in reach means nothing. You can’t genuinely tell if someone is decent so it takes a lot away from incentives to get a high rank because the ranking system is diluted. It means nothing to be a high level in reach If you were a 42 in Halo you were among the most talented players to see the game. You need to interject that sort of incentives back into the ranking system. Even the colors around the ranking numbers 1-50 were admired and set after to get like the 31-33 which had the green and purple background. I would much rather have that then a straight number like in Halo 3 and I’m 19 years old. Even if you can’t abide exactly to the ranking system in Halo 2 at least find a median like in halo 3 were both parts of the market were satisfied when it came to a skill set rank along with a “amount played rank.”

Now talking about the actual game play. The worst thing that possibly was introduced in the online game play is “trading kills.” People don’t just throw a punch at each other and both come out dead. And the reaction time a person has to pull the trigger while bullets are in the air are close to nothing. But worst of all you changed the incentives of the game. By adding a socialistic “trading-kill” portion into the game your destroying incentives of ambitious players. Because there isn’t a winner out come. If you lose the battle you can rely on team work to communicate to finish the injured player off so by that alone your destroying alot of the team work portion into the average game. And that was one of the big parts of Halo 2 online that made it so great you could pick up a bunch of randoms with a motivation to really win and get into the game. along with the diluted ranking system now a-days it doesn’t even matter if you lost because you lose no rank you just might not get as much “credits” which you can gain by playing one extra game. Even if your clearly in the lead of a 1v1 battle and you have the right amount of damage done to you along with both players pressing beat down. Both come out dead and even the better player get a tie instead of a win.

One last simple thing is why can’t people watch film together there is no point in watching film of a game unless you can watch it together. I rarely go on reach film unless I did something incredible or I’m the most distraught I’ve ever been in my life.

These are only a few of the changes I on the behalf of thousands upon thousands of plays I’ve talked to that played Halo 2 need to see changed. And if you want your loyal fan base which made your product so big to continue to flourish and set records

Even I have come to question if I should even buy halo 4 because I would certainly not buy another game like reach where there is not even close to being a competitive atmosphere in the community but rather a lazy environment. So if you want me to buy the new game along with other loyal fans we need to see changes for the good where you started off

I speak on the behalf of myself, Brandon Sauter (I LiverpoolFC I) and Brennan Gulino(Nighlhawk68)as well as all the other Loyal Halo Fans. Check our track records of games played over the span of Halo 2,3 & reach and you’ll notice a significant drop in play.

tl;dr Player not buying Halo 4 because he knows it’s like Reach.

How was the gameplay OP?

You’ve been playing Halo since you were 13? How do we not know you are just now 13 and a ½

Too … much … text … must … keep … reading … [VITAL SIGNS : DEAD]

I kinda stopped reading after you pulled that random statistic that you speak for 95% of the Halo community that played halo 2. You speak for yourself, nobody else

Bless you OP You make me laugh !!! First of all you DO NOT represent 95% of people who played Halo 2. Is just so silly to say it. I bet my lungs i can find people who played Halo 2 and do not agree with your statements. Second Halo2/3 system maybe was better than Reach but it has it’s Flaws. Derankers, boosters even cheaters( I’m not talking about the BxR thing, though IT IS a cheat!!) And we shall not forget the SUPER LAG witch devastated halo 2/3 MP experience- especially H3. And please quit from this “343 do as i say, because me and my friends know better the game and if you want to succed do as i say” style. It is so sick…

I hate reading so much text squeezed in…
but I do agree that we should have the ability to watch videos together.

I agree with you man. Especially the ranked and having the colored rank. I thought those colors made the levels look so sick especially when your about to start a game and you see a 37 or 40 and they look awesome. I took halo 2 really seriously also and i totally agree.

> 343 Industries,
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> First off let me say that I’ve been a Halo player since 13 years of age and with each and every game that has been made after the release of Halo the quality of the online game-play has deteriorated. <mark>I speak on behalf of everyone who started off with Halo 2 we all agree that Halo has been the greatest of all the games thus far and definitely the best game of all time.</mark> Once again I’m speaking for 95% of people who played Halo 2.

I can see where this is going, and I’m not liking it.
Halo 2.5 rant incoming…

Yo dawg, dat super paragraph…

I mean I’m not 13? I go to college and I just finished my first year I’m an econ/finance major and I’m pretty sure a kid that is 13 would have a vocabulary like this or even be old enough to remember all the specific details in Halo 2 before they took it offline.

Second point okay yes it was rather unlike me to throw in a random statistic on like 95% and yes I haven’t conducted a survey to get that exact %, but I was speaking generally speaking so people have some sort of idea. Out of all the people that I have met that played Halo 2 all of them agreed that it was the game with the best online play Bungie has put out.

Sorry for the novel but I could have wrote a lot more.

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ima say if you disagree with this dude, you were a nub in 2 and 3 if you played them at all. reach suck, 4 will suck, 343 killed Halo

OP - You are one person. One vote. You are also a consumer, not a video game designer. If you wish to make posts like this, please be aware the rest of us are just going to laugh and say, “Oh man, ANOTHER thread like this?”

Long story short. Please present what ideas and circumstances you wish to see return. If your answer is the entire system, it won’t happen. Innovation and change is always going to take precedence over a decade old game with outdated ideas. They may be perfect ideas to you, but the drivers seat is occupied by a slew of people from 343 in a proven track history of video game design. You? Are a college freshman. The lack of experience and education alone would disqualify you from any such notion of holding good ideas. I personally thank you for your time in writing out your frustrations, ideas, and polite wording out for us all to read, but the original post is not going to accomplish anything.

> 343 Industries,
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> I speak on behalf of everyone who started off with Halo 2

No, you don’t.

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lol reach did not suck it was just not as good as a 2 and 3… You’re probly one of those camping noobs that camped the sword and shotgun aren’t ya… Have you played Halo 4? No i do not think so lol… Go back to cod and stop hating on halo.