For all you halo 4 haters out there...

Halo is broken because for the pure fact that it doesnt reward movement!

but lets starts with maps… they made a BTB casual game, but at the same time ruined btb with loadouts(stickys,plasmas pistols), random ordinance, and wweeeeaaakkk vehicles. You remembered that time in old halo games where you made pushes towards lasers,rockets, etc to stop vehichles… hahah the good old times where player movement was needed. Halo 4 has become stale and littered with campers… Static weapons are a must and these long kill times dont help anything. Making the BR 4 shot would only make the game better because it would promote movement. Static weapons also = player movement… Something that also created team work and strategy to obtain… I DON’T UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE EVEN BOTHER PLAYING THIS GAME, YOUR PLAYING FOR ARMOR… NEITHER YOUR KD NOR YOUR W/L RECORDS MEANS ANYTHING NOR HAVE MEANT ANYTHING SINCE HALO 3… The combination of JiP,insta spawns, the removal of static weapons, long kill times, and big maps have completely destroyed any chance for halo to be a competitive game. They created a random luck base FPS that yes takes skill but isnt halo and Shouldnt of been called halo 4 besides for the campaign that i was actually impressed with… atleast the cutscenes…

Either way this title update better change a lot… and ands need to be shown in game not hidden… stop catering to casuals, youve done enough already. But im not playing till then… Im critical of a series i loved and the majority of the people want something to release resemble it…

H1-3 didn’t have AA’s, and so one of the few options to make the game fun was for strong map design. With AA’s, there’s less necessity to make a well-designed map (not to mention the difficulties in doing so with Jet Packs and Sprint). I think everyone here from Halo CE to Halo 3 can say the best maps for any game they’ve ever played can be found in Lockout, the pit, guardian, Zanzibar, etc, and that’s because they were all created without the crutch of AA’s and ordinance drops to ‘spice things up.’

A lack of a ranking system creates no risk/reward scenario, which is the one of the largest contributors to the release of dopamine into our bodies. Even the ordinance drops are cumulative, it’s not like dying forces you to restart (a la COD killstreaks).

Two reasons why the game is ‘flawed.’ I wouldn’t call it broken, but it definitely has its flaws.

The halo chars say nothing because it just means that the people that aren’t playing right now are probably people that are new to the halo gaming community… And the population will go up after Christmas because people probably don’t have a lot of money like they used to. We are in a recession!

So dual wielding in halo 2 was core? And bubble shields were core in halo 3?

this game isnt playable… the core fans bought this game on release and quit playing it already… 343 failed… nothing to do with recession

Yeah… Gotta love the good ol days of btb where you could get a team and literally run a map because you had all the vehicles and all the spawn times of all the power weapons timed! And because you ran with a team you had all those maps Down to a tee before you even played… God forbid you get used to the fact that static weapons on the map aren there and learn a new tactic other than timing when the spartan laser would be back and camping there till I came up…

i cant argue with someone who doesnt understand who thinks personal ordinance/random ordinance is better than having static weapons on the map

Huh, i am one of those “core” fans that are still playing Halo 4 instead of constantly saying it’s dead without any constructive feedback (if i ever do, it’s only because i am mocking said people).

Despite the flaws that Halo 4 has in it’s MP suite, i am still playing the game for hours. I am hopeful that the future for this game is going to brighter than it was at launch. Hell the Boltshot glitch got fixed, as well as several map exploits. Halo 5 better have more polish out the door though, i don’t think this series needs to endure another blow from the business side of things (I.E Holiday sales).

Now we need ranked and file share. Which are getting patched in anyways. You can only -Yoink- about PODS and GODS for so only before you get tired of hearing your own voice. Maybe some never will but whatever. I am well aware of the random factors behind the systems, prefer the old static drops myself but for now? Gotta just play what’s in front of me. Alternative is to go back to inferior Reach or foreign host/de-ranker infested Halo 3 w/inferior hit detection. No thanks.

Keep up the constructive criticism people :slight_smile: By constructive, i don’t mean mindless fanboy praise or doom saying by the fake Halo fans.

> So dual wielding in halo 2 was core? And bubble shields were core in halo 3?

I’d say the core concepts of halos 1-3 were the emphasis on good map design, with the competitive emphasis placed on map control, situational awareness, and trick jumps for getting out of tight spots, or getting into key positions. Not exactly sure what you mean by ‘core,’ so I addressed both ‘cores’ that I am currently aware of.

The equipment, just like any other powerup or weapon, was part of map control. Just like you could camp rockets or sniper, you could (if you choose to) try to control the map with equipment spawns. Although I can’t say if that’s really the best way to go about things.

You realize that dual wielding was also in Halo 3? There were some good combos, but usually a BR at range is better than a dual wield PR + Magnum up close so it wasn’t heavily used. Plus, the inability to throw grenades is pretty crippling. A nade with a followup shot will destroy someone dual wielding.

Fanboyism at its best or worst idk.

That’s what I meant by core… I mean mechanics… Gameplay … Not level design or spawn points… Because frankly it’s been bad since halo 3… I’m talking about the way you play a game as an individual… I like the fact that if I wanna stop a banshee all I need to do is load out to that situation… If I wanna fly the banshee I need to load out to that situation… With wheel man you can plasma pistol me or sticky me and it doesn’t bother me too much… I believe that is a step up… If I’m in a close quarters situation I can load out my boltshot… It’s not that hard… You can say it isn’t halo but at its core it is… Just not that way you mean core… I don’t think the game should get a bad rap because players don’t know how to adjust… If you put an op weapon in the game… Then instead of refusing to use it and complaining… Just adjust… Use it, and move on… It was put there by design.

> This game isn’t broken… Just because you can’t get kills… Or you can’t win, doesn’t mean the game is broken! It means that you are inept to change!

Yeah! Because I totally can’t get kills, can’t win and am completely inept to change.

It doesn’t seem like you’re trying to spark a civil conversation. It sounds like you’re upset with people who give constructive criticism and/or their opinions. It’s okay though because you’re also entitled to your opinion, however you might want to tone it down a little or the results you get won’t be the ones you want.

You are inept to change because you want to call the game broken because the gem you love is evolving…

> You are inept to change because you want to call the game broken because the gem you love is evolving…

Stealing terrible ideas from CoD =/= evolution.

Dude this is toned down… I just think its funny because people say the game is broken but still have yet to have proof… It runs just fine… And what they don’t know is just because they are mad that a certain way they play is gone, they think it will go back but what they don’t realize is its never going back… 343 play tested it for years to be this way… Not to just completely re do all the hard work

Making you’re spartan personal to you is a bad idea? It makes you more motivated to getting your spartan what you want it to have! I leveled to get the tactical package I want… That wasn’t a bad idea… And the fact I never have to fight someone for a Dmr/be again!? Awesome!

this community has became a joke killed its self from the inside out but im just sick of it. love halo 4. i hate all the i suck at halo4 so its a bad game posts an if some one trys to make a post like this one asking them to stop posting about how much they hate halo they freak out its a joke. does any one know of a place on the web you can go talk halo get halo new with out the “cry babies”

> The halo chars say nothing because it just means that the people that aren’t playing right now are probably people that are new to the halo gaming community… And the population will go up after Christmas because people probably don’t have a lot of money like they used to. We are in a recession!

Duuuuuuuude give it up pleeeeeease. A recession? People already bought the game they just don’t like it. Tthats why the chart is declining get it? Halo was my favorite franchise I can admit a turd when I see one. So can others. Some just cant .

Frankie… So you don’t believe after the holidays that the people who get the game on Christmas won’t play? I don’t that… I don’t care about the fact it declines… I’m just saying its still a good game… I just don’t think unless you have a legit problem instead of " it sucks" or " it’s broken" then don’t post about how bad the game is… Go play something else… Obviously it isn’t that bad or you wouldn’t be posting on the forum… It’s just an ill, immature attest to grab some attention… And it’s cluttering up the forum…