Some food for thought:
https://youtu.be/h4ATKxz9PFc
https://youtu.be/uN7B_3mL1WA
https://youtu.be/fjxn64Slk6o
https://youtu.be/xTKIvugBFUs
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Ah yes! More personal opinions!
Love those videos that have âKillingâ in the title, makes me laugh seeing it. Kids these days are hilarious.
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The only halo game that actually had a rank progression was halo reach I agree they shouldâve done it that way but yeah with the battle pass at less you get 166 rewards over getting nothing like in old halo games. But what do you expect with battle passes itâs like that for all games that have it unfortunately 
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the battle pass at less you get 166 rewards over getting nothing like in old halo games
A large majority of those rewards though are challenge swaps and double xp rewards 
not to mention theyâve split shoulders to two separate items AND managed to split emblems into like 8? (1 for each weapon and vehicle) oh and the fact you gotta unlock every single armor colour multiple times for different armor cores. All of which canât be earned by just playing the game but by jumping through very specific hoops that these challenges set for players.
Thereâs also the added slap in the face of not including items like emiles or jorges shoulders in the bp since theyâll likely charge us an extra $20 each just for those like the knife chest piece that shouldve been included since I donât know⌠the thing was called âHeroes of reach battlepassâ not 90% of the heroes of reach
Ah yes! More personal opinions!
Love those videos that have âKillingâ in the title, makes me laugh seeing it. Kids these days are hilarious.
Well most of these âkidsâ are in there 30âs and have grown up with the entire halo franchise. You canât be too surprised when they get salty when the game as theyâve known it has been chopped up into pieces and spoon fed back to them for $20 a pop. Canât imagine why a lot of them would rather not sacrifice their beloved franchise because some execs and shareholders could smell that sweet sweet f2p money and couldnât help but be greedy.
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I agree with all of it the new Mets of micro transactions and battle passes is bs. The only thing to do is donât buy it then theyâll learn, but when they release a cool pear of cat ear helmets everyone spends their money you wouldnât catch me spending a dime on anything but the battle pass. Only bc if not for the battle pass you donât really get any rewards. Itâs people who need to stop buying micro transactions then theyâll learn but âoh uwu cat ears I need to spend $20 bucks for uwu cat earsâ People are dumb
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I agree with all of it the new Mets of micro transactions and battle passes is bs. The only thing to do is donât buy it then theyâll learn, but when they release a cool pear of cat ear helmets everyone spends their money you wouldnât catch me spending a dime on anything but the battle pass. Only bc if not for the battle pass you donât really get any rewards. Itâs people who need to stop buying micro transactions then theyâll learn but âoh uwu cat ears I need to spend $20 bucks for uwu cat earsâ
Sadly from what Iâve seen in game though a lot of people donât care and just continue to spend more money than a decent meal on a single piece of armor because âcat ears heheâ the emblems that come with it are just laughably pointless as well other than to serve as a filler to give the illusion these âbundlesâ actually have $20 worth of content.
Back in the day youâd spend $20 or more and expect a full bundle of new maps in return⌠oh how the times have changed. Now I gotta pay just for progression and armor customization -yoink- me
The fact players can just buy battlepass levels as well completely undercuts any satisfaction in earning your armor yourself. I laugh when I see people in lvl 100 gear that get 3 kills for 15 deaths⌠canât help but shame them in chat asking how many $100âs of dollars they spent on levels.
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Bro I do the same when I see those players I would txt them in chat like â sooo⌠did you get level 100 on your own or did you pay to win your way up there⌠just curiousâ I did the math to buy all the levels itâs about 1k in money⌠and when I was playing on week 3 people were already 100 and that was before the exp updateâŚ. Iâm currently level 74 and thatâs only bc of the xp update and I donât get why people pay for levels when you can just do challenges those people are the idiots that make micro transactions still a thing. Putting hard work is always better in the end when youâve got all the reward with the hard work paying for levels isnât fun and a waste of money. Another example mister chief love it itâs cool I want it but Iâm not spending $20 bucks for an Al and ai color and emblems Iâd rather get a dlc thatâs a flood campaign
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So you donât want to discuss the title of your post or provide any of your own contextualized commentary on the matter?
If I wanted an assignment, I wouldâve stayed in high school. Iâm looking for a discussion.
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literally⌠Iâll stick with my superintendent ai I actually earned from completing bs challenges and not further support greedy monetizationâs. I miss when the main method for leveling up and earning items was to be good at the game or dedicate time/effort and aim to win the match rather than spending it trying to give 5 back massages to the enemy and costing your team the match since most the time youâll be rewarded less for actually playing the objective.
A lot of popular streamers Iâve seen just dropped the $1000 since they donât care they just want shiny content to show the kiddies. Now I just associate people in higher level armor as nooby sellouts since 90% of the time they play like garbage. Iâm at level 88 in the bp now and thats just been from playing my 6 daily games with an xp boost, completing a few challenges then leaving after getting sick of latency issues affecting melee fights and dying from bullets curving around corners
So you donât want to discuss the title of your post or provide any of your own contextualized commentary on the matter?
If I wanted an assignment, I wouldâve stayed in high school. Iâm looking for a discussion.
No I just got sick of making long posts for sheep who support the current progression/armor system to reply with âjust donât play the game thenâ Iâd rather not put in more effort into a post than 343 put into their entire game
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Hereâs what I would say to the players defending 343 and the decisions theyâve made:
Video games are becoming worse, and by defending the decisions made like the ones for this game, theyâre going to continue to become worse.
You might not mind, but eventually, most people are going to quit playing AAA video games, and the companies who rely on people buying their AAA video games will crash.
That means you wonât have anymore AAA video games to play.
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It is what it is.
I think theyâve done a pretty good job presenting a palatable plate.
Making money on non-pay to win is perfect.
The battle pass seems fun. Iâve ticked over to 35 without even trying.
Agree with the gentle disgruntle about the prices being too high⌠but who wouldnât want things a bit cheaper.
Iâve splurged on Daisyâs bear and the T-bag weapon dongle thingy. No regrets.
We all want to go back to the âgood old daysâ⌠but thatâs life. Play on.
More complaining about the store. Nothing of value here.
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More complaining about the store. Nothing of value here.
Well seeing how the store has butchered the progression and armor customization systems Iâd say its fair to complain about.
Thanks for your clearly more valuable comment which contributed absolutely nothing to the discussion.
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I think theyâre just saying there are already a lot of topics about this, and that nothing was said that hasnât already been said.
If they had something new to say about why itâs bad, it would be good, but as it is, there isnât.
Weâre basically just waiting to see what 343 is going to do in January, so thereâs not too much point in that.
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Oh my bad. Sorry about adding nothing to a topic that is so clearly original and well thought out. Thank god you made a topic about youtubers talking about the store, because nobody before today has mentioned anything about it.
You get it.
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Nothing of value here, OP has no argument of his own.
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Well I hate to beat the dead horse but 343 are notorious for just sweeping things under the rug if they think they can get away with it which by the number of sales theyâre getting through the store and the people on the forums going âyou just play the game for funâ while turning a blind eye to shady EA style practices then we arenât going to be getting any actual changes
Nothing of value here, OP has no argument of his own.
Go look at the countless posts Iâve made about this exact issue raising both points from the videos and from what Iâve experienced myself. Been talking about it since day 1 of the flights⌠Sorry if Iâm a bit over writing my own âoriginalâ points on here. Weâve had a 6 month flight, an apparent âbetaâ and the biggest changes weâve got is a little extra xp for our first 6 games and the ability to search for a few extra modes⌠bfd
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This isnât the Halo 5 pay to win model. Youâre trading $ for skins. Thatâs it.
As far as changes go. There are multiple post holiday updates already announced for both the shop and gameplay/playlists. Since the devs are on break we will have to wait a bit longer.
Go look at the countless posts Iâve made about this exact issue
Why not comment on those posts to keep them alive instead of making âCtrl+Câ âCtrl+Vâ posts tho?
I know what you mean, since Iâve seen it happen with other companies, but I havenât seen that happen myself with 343, so Iâm willing to wait another month or two to see if they change the things that people are complaining about.
Though, I guess I have also still been complainingâŚ
Itâs more in the style ofâŚI donât know, Ubisoft? Capcom? Activision?
I canât remember since Iâve avoided their games somewhat, but itâs probably one of those.
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This isnât the Halo 5 pay to win model. Youâre trading $ for skins. Thatâs it.
At least halo 5 gave players the option to grind and earn req packs for completing games (not just challenges) without being forced to pay irl money⌠Which I by no means support and even called out req backs from the halo 5 flights for being loot boxes but with infinite they are locking armor behind a $20 pricetag that should have at least been included in the already paid for battepass. Where tf is emile and jorges shoulder pieces? and why was the reach chest piece with the knife a store only item. The decision to introduce âcoresâ and splitting emblems/colors to each weapon/vehicle was also another shameless act of creating even more sellable content for the least effort. The fact you have to buy the same color multiple times just rubs me so wrong
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