For all the [edited] people here

QUESTION: What do YOU propose that 343i should do to change Halo 4 without the inclusion of armor abilities ?

The game has to change somehow. It can’t just be Halo 3 with prettier graphics and more weapons.

I have yet to hear ANY well thought out or viable Gameplay alternatives to Armor Abilities from this pitful bunch of crybabies that this forum consists of.

don’t post in this thread unless YOU can offer a Creative alternative to the idea of armor abilities that would move the series forward.

I can understand that people don’t want the game to be a mainstream FPS clone, but at the same time if you are going to complain that you don’t like Armor abilities then you BETTER be able to OFFER a CREATIVE alternative that sounds better and that can evolve the Gameplay into something more dynamic and full.

IF NOT ?

then keep your mouth shut.

sure re-light the fires why don’t you? Lets have another massive hate thread!

Threads like this don’t help, they only split the community more.

> QUESTION: What do YOU propose that 343i should do to change Halo 4 without the inclusion of armor abilities ?
>
> The game has to change somehow. It can’t just be Halo 3 with prettier graphics and more weapons.
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> I have yet to hear ANY well thought out or viable Gameplay alternatives to Armor Abilities from this pitful bunch of crybabies that this forum consists of.
>
> don’t post in this thread unless YOU can offer a Creative alternative to the idea of armor abilities that would move the series forward.
>
> I can understand that people don’t want the game to be a mainstream FPS clone, but at the same time if you are going to complain that you don’t like Armor abilities then you BETTER be able to OFFER a CREATIVE alternative that sounds better and that can evolve the Gameplay into something more dynamic and full.
>
> IF NOT ?
>
> then keep your mouth shut.

my thread is no blind hate thread its there to discuss and i wrote a solution in my thread,x-ray vision is good? dont you think?

btw,you did not play any halo game,you just played black ops? so why should anyone listen to you?

> sure re-light the fires why don’t you? Lets have another massive hate thread!
>
> Threads like this don’t help, they only split the community more.

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good lets do it then.

I want to see all of the little kids come out of the woodwork and try to suggest something that is an alternative to what 343i has proposed.

I challenge every person that reads this that doesn’t like armor abilities to include ONE well thought out gameplay mechanic that would take it’s place as an alternative.

If you can’t suggest something better than you don’t deserve the right to critique.

> > QUESTION: What do YOU propose that 343i should do to change Halo 4 without the inclusion of armor abilities ?
> >
> > The game has to change somehow. It can’t just be Halo 3 with prettier graphics and more weapons.
> >
> > I have yet to hear ANY well thought out or viable Gameplay alternatives to Armor Abilities from this pitful bunch of crybabies that this forum consists of.
> >
> > don’t post in this thread unless YOU can offer a Creative alternative to the idea of armor abilities that would move the series forward.
> >
> > I can understand that people don’t want the game to be a mainstream FPS clone, but at the same time if you are going to complain that you don’t like Armor abilities then you BETTER be able to OFFER a CREATIVE alternative that sounds better and that can evolve the Gameplay into something more dynamic and full.
> >
> > IF NOT ?
> >
> > then keep your mouth shut.
>
> my thread is no blind hate thread its there to discuss and i wrote a solution in my thread,x-ray vision is good? dont you think?
>
> btw,you did not play any halo game,you just played black ops? so why should anyone listen to you?

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LMAO - Little kid I’ve been playing Halo since November 2001. Get real.

I’ve played Black Ops maybe 20 hours total. I don’t even own the game.

Armour abilities are the least of problems for me. While I hate them and propose that they should be erased from any Halo game ever and forcably removed from Reach, Halo 4 has armour that gives game play changing benefits based off of a progressions system. That’s considerably worse than any irritating jet pack, and I shouldn’t have to explain why.

> > QUESTION: What do YOU propose that 343i should do to change Halo 4 without the inclusion of armor abilities ?
> >
> > The game has to change somehow. It can’t just be Halo 3 with prettier graphics and more weapons.
> >
> > I have yet to hear ANY well thought out or viable Gameplay alternatives to Armor Abilities from this pitful bunch of crybabies that this forum consists of.
> >
> > don’t post in this thread unless YOU can offer a Creative alternative to the idea of armor abilities that would move the series forward.
> >
> > I can understand that people don’t want the game to be a mainstream FPS clone, but at the same time if you are going to complain that you don’t like Armor abilities then you BETTER be able to OFFER a CREATIVE alternative that sounds better and that can evolve the Gameplay into something more dynamic and full.
> >
> > IF NOT ?
> >
> > then keep your mouth shut.
>
> my thread is no blind hate thread its there to discuss and i wrote a solution in my thread,x-ray vision is good? dont you think?
>
> btw,you did not play any halo game,you just played black ops? so why should anyone listen to you?

yes I read your little “alternative.”

and it made no sense and was obscenely shallow and consisting of rearranging the concept.

You said something about separating armor Ablities and Loadouts. that makes no sense because they are already two separate things.

Don’t even bother with this troll, what a waste of forum space.

> > > QUESTION: What do YOU propose that 343i should do to change Halo 4 without the inclusion of armor abilities ?
> > >
> > > The game has to change somehow. It can’t just be Halo 3 with prettier graphics and more weapons.
> > >
> > > I have yet to hear ANY well thought out or viable Gameplay alternatives to Armor Abilities from this pitful bunch of crybabies that this forum consists of.
> > >
> > > don’t post in this thread unless YOU can offer a Creative alternative to the idea of armor abilities that would move the series forward.
> > >
> > > I can understand that people don’t want the game to be a mainstream FPS clone, but at the same time if you are going to complain that you don’t like Armor abilities then you BETTER be able to OFFER a CREATIVE alternative that sounds better and that can evolve the Gameplay into something more dynamic and full.
> > >
> > > IF NOT ?
> > >
> > > then keep your mouth shut.
> >
> > my thread is no blind hate thread its there to discuss and i wrote a solution in my thread,x-ray vision is good? dont you think?
> >
> > btw,you did not play any halo game,you just played black ops? so why should anyone listen to you?
>
> LMAO - Little kid I’ve been playing Halo since November 2001. Get real.
>
> I’ve played Black Ops maybe 20 hours total. I don’t even own the game.

yh me too so wheres the problem?

> sure re-light the fires why don’t you? Lets have another massive hate thread!
>
> Threads like this don’t help, they only split the community more.

Lol, ironic title for such a post.

Anyway, like I have always said, they should have expanded on the idea of power ups. They could have made the X-Ray vision into a perfectly good power up and that would work beautifully under the halo formula.

Instead of making it an AA, which will have to be balanced (so basically not very powerful) they could have made it a power up like overshield/camo. That way they could make it even more powerful. Imagine having it as a power up, spawning every 2-3 minutes, where when you pick it up it you can “mark” opponents for your team in a manner that lets them see where they are anywhere on the map much like X-ray vision would. You can only mark each opponent once per pick-up and if you die you lose however many marks you didn’t use.

Infinitely better than allowing a player to spawn with such an ability, even a weak one.

There, that is an evolution of a game feature that doesn’t completely F*** with halo’s formula.

They could have included new weapons, new maps, and tweaked existing weapons and mechanics.

No one asked them to change the game until it wasn’t even Halo anymore.

OP made a new thread and it seems like a lot of people felt inclined to join his call, even if not for a debate, just hate. I agree that these threads are getting boring and rarely serves and purpose, then again we can tell the OP in a nice way at least, OPs not the one fuelling the debate at the moment at least.
BTW. I’ve not played Blops or similar, hence my opinion is worth a lot more, right?
Seriously, stop judging people by the games they play, even pro players play CoD from time to time, even MLG supports it, I don’t but that does not make my opinion worth more or less then someone who loves CoD and their opinion.

throw armor abilites on the map and make everyone start off even, give one good reason why that wouldn’t work.

Oh wait, you cannot. Because it would.