I finally got my hands on a Mantis for the first time. It moves much quicker that a Scorpion or Wraith. I was able to squeeze off a few shots at Warden Eternal before getting ambushed and going up in flames. I thought I saw two levels of the Mantis? Is one more armored and has more fire power? The only time I can get to use it is if the game actually goes long enough for I think 8 reqs is available. Usually the game is over by about 6 to 7 reqs.
I feel like the mantis is severely underpowered for it’s req cost. Honestly I feel like making it so it cant get boarded would be a fair balancing move. It’s weak enough as it is. Just barely stronger than a banshee ultra and doesn’t have nearly the mobility the banshee ultra does.
I’m probably better off going for a Wraith/Scorpion. My luck has been better with a Wraith towards the end of the game.
Definitely put the Mantis as one of the very few “underpowered” options in H5. It can hold its own against single default vehicles but against multiple vehicles or infantry, or upgraded vehicles, it prays you have smart teammates backing you up.
Feels like its intent is to be inside a Core Base or Fortress, and not much else, in WZ. For BTB, it’s your unfriendly ED209 guard dog.
With smart teammates aiming for the head, the Mantis can really help take/hold those bases with its weapons. But as a lone wolf, that same Mantis is actually quite susceptible to infantry urban-warfare tactics due to a very quickly spreading main chaingun, having a poor damage and splash “melee” stomp and of course being boarded from the front.
Just 2 enemies and/or close cover quickly shows the engineering flaws with these variants… Though, as with all things ONI, the Black Mantis IS badass!
It really helps to think of the Mantis as a “force multiplier” but not an “assault platform.” Meaning, as implied above, a supported Mantis can multiply the damage effects of other units on the battlefield. An unsupported Mantis is a near walking coffin.
Thanks for the Mantis info.
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> I finally got my hands on a Mantis for the first time. It moves much quicker that a Scorpion or Wraith. I was able to squeeze off a few shots at Warden Eternal before getting ambushed and going up in flames. I thought I saw two levels of the Mantis? Is one more armored and has more fire power? The only time I can get to use it is if the game actually goes long enough for I think 8 reqs is available. Usually the game is over by about 6 to 7 reqs.
There is the Basic Mantis, Corp Mantis(Armor Increase), Tundra, Urban, and Woodland(More Armor Increase), and finally the Oni Mantis(Most Armor + Explosive Machine gun shots and Locking rockets, 
SO much fun!)
yeah feel that it is underpowered… and for the req lvl it’s on… crazy… they should maybe buff it or lower the req lvl.
but as the other guy said… if it is supported it is usefull.
the base hog is better than any mantis, worst vehicle in the game
I just snagged the ONI Mantis this weekend, and I’m very eager to try it out. I’m typically concerned with the strength of the ONI’s weaponry and the high profile of the vehicle making it vulnerable. We’ll see if the ONI variant helps that out.
I love the mantis but it was better in 4 (and I was AWESOME with it when I could get it) Sadly I have only managed to get one so far, and that one, while awesome, died quite quickly. Someone had rockets. I killed quite a few people with it, and that is probably why they grabbed rockets, lol. I havent managed to get another mantis since unfortunately, and definitely no cert for it.