Fireteam Osiris & ONI

So from whom does Fireteam Osiris take orders? From Lasky and… Palmer (?!).
Or do you think Osman (as usual) gives orders to Lasky who then gives them to Osiris?

I think we may have misunderstood the bond between ONI and Osiris, as reading previous posts the general belief was that Osiris was the bad ONI team and blue team the good ones, or that Locke was ONI and put against the Chief but then changed side during campaign.

And by the way, they gave away a bit of a Halsey spoiler (if I’m not missing something):

Halsey is still on UNSC side and wants to get away from Jul, Osiris achieves this, then there is that cutscene on Infinity bridge where she has a discussion on Chief with Lasky. In that cutscene she doesn’t seem under arrest anymore, which is good, however I fear what may happen to her given she has many enemies and Infinity is generally not a friendly environment to her (very tied to Osman and full of anti-Halsey club members).

When they revealed Osirs his profile put him as a ‘former’ ONI agent. Him and the rest of Osiris are pulled from various divisions. This is what the logos on their collars represent.

While ONI likely has its hands in information gathering, I dont think they’re calling the shots.

I get what your saying, it does kind of seem strange for Locke to take orders from Palmer. I was thinking that Orisis was going to be a separate group of Spartan IVs for ONI.

Additional Info: Lasky is still a Captain when briefing with Osiris, so he didn’t get his rank for something happening in Escalation.

Well, Osiris consists of former ONI ‘acquisition specialist’ Locke, a former ONI go-to ODST Buck, through-and-through former(?) ONI member Vale who also has access to armor that is reserved for ONI and ONI alone if they can help it and finally Tanaka, who is the only one who doesn’t have overt ties to ONI. The possibility of ONI influence is certainly there.

Ultimately, though, ONI doesn’t need to command them directly. Just influence Lasky’s orders (which they have done before). Chain of command is a wonderful thing.
Which is also why Locke takes orders from Palmer. So long as he is based on the Infinity and not on detatched duty she’s her direct superior.

So to answer the question, Osiris takes orders from Palmer and Lasky who get their orders from whereever :slight_smile:

If the chain of command is respected they take their orders from Sarah Palmer who takes her orders from lackey who takes his orders from fleetcom

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> If the chain of command is respected they take their orders from Sarah Palmer who takes her orders from lackey who takes his orders from fleetcom

This if they were an Infinity fireteam. Not saying they aren’t, but before it didn’t look so.

I never assumed they were the evil ONI team in the first place.

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Has little to do with fire team representation. Infinity is their acting base of operation. Sandy palmer out ranks them all. Until we see what lockers secret orders are we don’t know who the real task master is?

They seem to be another ONI intelligence/strike team like Black Team. Specifically their replacements since Gamma Halo and the Next 72 Hours. They have three members that have strong pervious ties to ONI, Locke and Vale have advanced ONI armor and Buck has armor that only a few prototypes exist of as of 2558. They also all seem to be more skilled than a lot of other Spartan IVs. And have been given some of the highest profile and delicate missions the UNSC could have. So yup seems like ONI. Also in terms of command I’d say they are just being relayed orders from Lasky and Palmer, someone high up in HIGHCOM or ONI is probably pulling the strings and calling the shots, just how Black Team worked.

In July, we learned from the Game Informer issue that they were part of the Spartan branch meaning they don’t take orders from ONI (at least not directly). It only makes sense from various clues that Osiris is part of the Infinity’s Spartan contingent now and would therefore take orders from Lasky and Palmer.

Osiris is part of the Spartan branch so they take orders from Palmer and Musa. Also as they seem to be based on Infinity, Laskey

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> Osiris is part of the Spartan branch so they take orders from Palmer and Musa. Also as they seem to be based on Infinity, Laskey

I hope it’s not like that. They didn’t get all that ONI tech to serve Musa. If they did it’s because they have to do something for ONI.

I’m not 100% sure, but think Lasky got his orders from ONI/HIGHCOM and transmitted them to Osiris.

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Definitely this. If they are getting kitted out with all this sick gear they must be doing something special.

Well ONI pretty much controls everyone so weather they’re taking orders from lasky or serin herself it makes little difference. I presume as blue team aren’t awol at the start of the game they’re more along the lines of a normal Spartan squad, but I expect later on they get orders from high up to get the chief.

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> Well, Osiris consists of former ONI ‘acquisition specialist’ Locke, a former ONI go-to ODST Buck, through-and-through former(?) ONI member Vale who also has access to armor that is reserved for ONI and ONI alone if they can help it and finally Tanaka, who is the only one who doesn’t have overt ties to ONI. The possibility of ONI influence is certainly there.

Only Locke & Vale are former ONI, Buck is a former ODST & Tanaka is a former marine, neither of the two are ONI.

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> In July, we learned from the Game Informer issue that they were part of the Spartan branch meaning they don’t take orders from ONI (at least not directly). It only makes sense from various clues that Osiris is part of the Infinity’s Spartan contingent now and would therefore take orders from Lasky and Palmer.

Doesn’t make sense they’d have access to special ONI armor then, one of them solely for finding “AWOL” Spartans. This is not sitting well with me. Them being a special team of ONI Spartan Spooks makes more sense.

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> > Well, Osiris consists of former ONI ‘acquisition specialist’ Locke, a former ONI go-to ODST Buck, through-and-through former(?) ONI member Vale who also has access to armor that is reserved for ONI and ONI alone if they can help it and finally Tanaka, who is the only one who doesn’t have overt ties to ONI. The possibility of ONI influence is certainly there.
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And yet both of those team members are using Proprietary Hardware not accessible to other Spartans.

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If an Army soldier rides on a ship, does that mean he is now officially Navy? No.

The whole of the Spartan program is from ONI, but that doesn’t mean they answer to ONI.

Is ONI likely involved in some things they do? Yeah. They have people on the Admiralty Board and influence on projects like Infinity. But they share that control with the Navy, Army, Air Force, ODSTs, Spartans, Civilian Government, and more.
Osiris is not an ONI task force, they belong to the Spartan Branch.

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> > In July, we learned from the Game Informer issue that they were part of the Spartan branch meaning they don’t take orders from ONI (at least not directly). It only makes sense from various clues that Osiris is part of the Infinity’s Spartan contingent now and would therefore take orders from Lasky and Palmer.
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Why not?

ONI is an intelligence and research branch. Why would they not release tech to be used? Why would the rest of the UNSC not order them to supply equipment?

If Osiris was under ONI control, they wouldn’t be receiving orders from Lasky and Palmer or being deployed from Infinity. Lasky is Navy, and answers to the whole of the UNSC, not ONI. And Palmer is Spartan, its own branch and therefore not connected to ONI. Osiris would be receiving orders covertly from Osman, and would probably be networked through the Point of No Return or other ONI facilities.