With Guardians and so forth, Halo Waypoint should have a feature allowing us to download fileshare videos to our computer or any other social media, also let us play them directly from Waypoint…
I think it would give the community more life. Watch theater videos of each other, and commenting…
I’d like to see the whole file browser interface improved as well. The H4 interface is needlessly cumbersome. Also, the fileshare navigation is terrible. Why doesn’t clicking on a picture just bring it up in a new window? Stuff like that.
Also . . . it would be cool if you could use theater to make .flv or .mp4 formatted videos. Record your clip as you currently do and optionally convert and save the clip to the hard drive from within the game. Capture card not required.
You know . . . if 343 wanted to make some extra DLC revenue without needing to get it from maps, I bet an automatic conversion add-on would sell quite well.
It’d be cool to see. Entirely depends on how they do Theater in Halo 5: Guardians.
The way it behaved in the past isn’t like other titles. It doesn’t just record your screen.
The game makes notes of what happens in the game - kills, movement, what direction you’re looking, etc and then when the game ends, it saves that all and turns it into a Theater file. Every time you go to watch the film, it recreates it as best as it can.
With a new engine, I assume Theater mode is being completely reworked and hopefully something like rendering is standard. Bungie made their own custom-code to allow for video rendering for Halo 3 and eventually Reach.
I think being able to stream in-game the gameplay videos that people have put on their profile would be amazing. Having to download a replay file, and launch up in theater mode is better than nothing, but imagine if it had the convenience of youtube? You could watch that noscope clip your mates been bugging you about while your waiting for the next game in matchmaking! Surely it’d be easier to do now with all the new xbox servers.
> The game makes notes of what happens in the game - kills, movement, what direction you’re looking, etc and then when the game ends, it saves that all and turns it into a Theater file. Every time you go to watch the film, it recreates it as best as it can.
Quite true with respect to the clip itself. However, when viewing a theater file, the information leaving the HDMI port is formatted for display. At that point, it is exactly the same information that would be fed to any conversion software. While H4 renders theater clips using the in-game engine, once that rendering for each frame is complete, conversion is no different than conversion for any other video stream.
So while the file itself cannot be directly converted to a typical video format, the rendered output of the engine can be. I would like them to include the ability to do that (even if it is a separately purchased add-on) in H5.
> I think being able to stream in-game the gameplay videos that people have put on their profile would be amazing. Having to download a replay file, and launch up in theater mode is better than nothing, but imagine if it had the convenience of youtube? You could watch that noscope clip your mates been bugging you about while your waiting for the next game in matchmaking! Surely it’d be easier to do now with all the new xbox servers.
Yep, Halo would benefit from even more exposure and more community growth with other social medias like Youtube being connected to Fileshare. I’m pretty sure 343 is going to do be doing things with Twitch more than likely, but I don’t like Twitch so much…
> Yep, Halo would benefit from even more exposure and more community growth with other social medias like Youtube being connected to Fileshare. I’m pretty sure 343 is going to do be doing things with Twitch more than likely, but I don’t like Twitch so much…
why would they work with twitch? its more possible with youtube but even that i doubt is happening, what i could see is that you could just download the video then post it on youtube(pc). but yes it would help with, even though we have a game dvr. I am liking the idea
> > Yep, Halo would benefit from even more exposure and more community growth with other social medias like Youtube being connected to Fileshare. I’m pretty sure 343 is going to do be doing things with Twitch more than likely, but I don’t like Twitch so much…
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> why would they work with twitch? its more possible with youtube but even that i doubt is happening, what i could see is that you could just download the video then post it on youtube(pc). but yes it would help with, even though we have a game dvr. I am liking the idea
Just cuz of the advertising Xbox One did with Twitch App. Also, the pros are always live streaming there and community events seem to broadcast more so at Twitch. Say a Tourney or something. I don’t see why we cant have both though…
> Just cuz of the advertising Xbox One did with Twitch App. Also, the pros are always live streaming there and community events seem to broadcast more so at Twitch. Say a Tourney or something. I don’t see why we cant have both though…
yeah well, 343 doesn’t need to do anything. Streaming would already work so it doesn’t need to be implemented. but i could see 343 using twitch to live stream yes.
There’s an important technical distinction that has to be made here. When you save a match for viewing in Theater, you’re not saving a video file, you’re saving the information required to render the scene with the game engine. As such, film clips cannot be viewed on a computer; they’re useless without the game’s engine and assets, which Microsoft will never allow on PC. The only workaround I can think of is to have a cloud service that renders the matches and captures the footage as an .mp4 (or some other video format) for viewing on your PC. Not sure if Microsoft would be happy with the extra overheads, though. They’re already shelling out on dedicated servers.
> There’s an important technical distinction that has to be made here. When you save a match for viewing in Theater, you’re not saving a video file, you’re saving the information required to render the scene with the game engine. As such, film clips cannot be viewed on a computer; they’re useless without the game’s engine and assets, which Microsoft will never allow on PC. The only workaround I can think of is to have a cloud service that renders the matches and captures the footage as an .mp4 (or some other video format) for viewing on your PC. Not sure if Microsoft would be happy with the extra overheads, though. They’re already shelling out on dedicated servers.
> > The game makes notes of what happens in the game - kills, movement, what direction you’re looking, etc and then when the game ends, it saves that all and turns it into a Theater file. Every time you go to watch the film, it recreates it as best as it can.
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> Quite true with respect to the clip itself. However, when viewing a theater file, the information leaving the HDMI port is formatted for display. At that point, it is exactly the same information that would be fed to any conversion software. While H4 renders theater clips using the in-game engine, once that rendering for each frame is complete, conversion is no different than conversion for any other video stream.
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> So while the file itself cannot be directly converted to a typical video format, the rendered output of the engine can be. I would like them to include the ability to do that (even if it is a separately purchased add-on) in H5.
See this is the kind of thing 343 needs to pay attention to, stuff like community and sharing. Rather than working on gimmicky stuff like adding Sprint and Armour abilities to attract the CoD community (sales numbers for Halo 4 were much less than Halo 3; alienated old fans, didn’t really gain any new ones) they need to add to things like theater. Make sharing and downloading clips even easier in theater, link it to the upload studio on Xbone, that kind of stuff. Also 343, PLEASE don’t remove theater now that there is an upload studio, i can see you doing that and let me just say, not a good idea. Also what ever happened to looking at others file shares in a matchmade lobby? IMO this was detrimental to custom games, as all the maps that i found in Halo 3 that made me come back for more were on other people’s file shares, but without the ability to look at what a player hs created, I can no longer do this and it really ruins it.
See this is the kind of thing 343 needs to pay attention to, stuff like community and sharing. Rather than working on gimmicky stuff like adding Sprint and Armour abilities to attract the CoD community (sales numbers for Halo 4 were much less than Halo 3; alienated old fans, didn’t really gain any new ones) they need to add to things like theater. Make sharing and downloading clips even easier in theater, link it to the upload studio on Xbone, that kind of stuff. Also 343, PLEASE don’t remove theater now that there is an upload studio, i can see you doing that and let me just say, not a good idea. Also what ever happened to looking at others file shares in a matchmade lobby? IMO this was detrimental to custom games, as all the maps that i found in Halo 3 that made me come back for more were on other people’s file shares, but without the ability to look at what a player hs created, I can no longer do this and it really ruins it.
> See this is the kind of thing 343 needs to pay attention to, stuff like community and sharing. Rather than working on gimmicky stuff like adding Sprint and Armour abilities to attract the CoD community (<mark>sales numbers for Halo 4 were much less than Halo 3</mark>; alienated old fans, didn’t really gain any new ones) they need to add to things like theater. Make sharing and downloading clips even easier in theater, link it to the upload studio on Xbone, that kind of stuff. Also 343, PLEASE don’t remove theater now that there is an upload studio, i can see you doing that and let me just say, not a good idea. Also what ever happened to looking at others file shares in a matchmade lobby? IMO this was detrimental to custom games, as all the maps that i found in Halo 3 that made me come back for more were on other people’s file shares, but without the ability to look at what a player hs created, I can no longer do this and it really ruins it.
Hardly.
You also have to consider that Halo 3 has been out for 5 more years than Halo 4, and Halo 4 is doing quite good in sales. Halo 4 being at the end of a console generation may also contribute to lower sales the next few years anyway.
So, instead of focusing on gameplay, they should focus on other additions? Well… that doesn’t sound like a great idea.
> See this is the kind of thing 343 needs to pay attention to, stuff like community and sharing. Rather than working on gimmicky stuff like adding Sprint and Armour abilities to attract the CoD community (sales numbers for Halo 4 were much less than Halo 3; alienated old fans, didn’t really gain any new ones) they need to add to things like theater. Make sharing and downloading clips even easier in theater, link it to the upload studio on Xbone, that kind of stuff. Also 343, PLEASE don’t remove theater now that there is an upload studio, i can see you doing that and let me just say, not a good idea. Also what ever happened to looking at others file shares in a matchmade lobby? IMO this was detrimental to custom games, as all the maps that i found in Halo 3 that made me come back for more were on other people’s file shares, but without the ability to look at what a player hs created, I can no longer do this and it really ruins it.
I hope upload studio doesn’t replace theater. It is only limited to 5 minutes of recording. Theater offers way more time and allows us to shape the angle we want to record from and swap povs. Also, don’t know but Upload studio doesn’t require Kinect just to record right? I know you can shout for it to record.
> > See this is the kind of thing 343 needs to pay attention to, stuff like community and sharing. Rather than working on gimmicky stuff like adding Sprint and Armour abilities to attract the CoD community (<mark>sales numbers for Halo 4 were much less than Halo 3</mark>; alienated old fans, didn’t really gain any new ones) they need to add to things like theater. Make sharing and downloading clips even easier in theater, link it to the upload studio on Xbone, that kind of stuff. Also 343, PLEASE don’t remove theater now that there is an upload studio, i can see you doing that and let me just say, not a good idea. Also what ever happened to looking at others file shares in a matchmade lobby? IMO this was detrimental to custom games, as all the maps that i found in Halo 3 that made me come back for more were on other people’s file shares, but without the ability to look at what a player hs created, I can no longer do this and it really ruins it.
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> Hardly.
> You also have to consider that Halo 3 has been out for 5 more years than Halo 4, and Halo 4 is doing quite good in sales. Halo 4 being at the end of a console generation may also contribute to lower sales the next few years anyway.
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> So, instead of focusing on gameplay, they should focus on other additions? Well… that doesn’t sound like a great idea.
Halo 3 sold 12 million copies.
Reach sold 9.6 million.
Halo 4 (to date) sold 9 million.
Despite H4 selling more than H3 in the first year of release (7.2M vs. 6.8M), it significantly underpaced H3 (1.7M vs. 2.1M) in the second year sales. So far, third year sales are even further behind; H4 has only sold 184k copies in 2014, but H3 sold 1.6M in its third year . . . and even Reach sold 690k copies in its third year.
Given that the Xbox Live memberships have gone from 23M (H3’s third year) to 44M (H4’s third year), this is a significant drop. “Quite good” is always relative to expectations, and I guarantee that MS and 343 would consider H4’s sales to be anything but “quite good”.