Hello,
I would like to discuss the map overgrowth, I like the map and for a revamp its barley recognisable as Plaza!
However I have one issue in ffa, now that we have 6 player ffa its one CQB camp fest with the energy sword and shotgun on the map.
6 player ffa is more skill based then 8 player ffa and that’s fine but for the love of the Arbiter, please remove one of these weapons and replace it with a needler or smg or something, my grenade hand is getting tired of nading ever corner to check for campers.
How do you guys feel about this? And how do you think the map plays overall?
Discuss!
Overgrowth needs to be removed from all playlists, just like Orion. The map is flawed, doesn’t matter what weapons are on the map. If it was just plasma pistol spawns, that map would still be terrible.
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> Overgrowth needs to be removed from all playlists, just like Orion. The map is flawed, doesn’t matter what weapons are on the map. If it was just plasma pistol spawns, that map would still be terrible.
I’m not really sure what you mean by flawed, why is it flawed?
Im not kidding when I say that when I first played on the map i thought it was a joke.
Its backwash from halo 2 level bad. It is literally one of the worst maps I have seen in any multiplayer game. Visually I guess it’s cool, but I’m trying to play a videogame not watch a movie.
This map is a punchline for me. It is mind boggling how atrocious this map is.
Yeah…
This map screams camp fest with how many corners there are.
I haven’t played FFA on this map yet, but I can see how that could pose a problem.
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> > Overgrowth needs to be removed from all playlists, just like Orion. The map is flawed, doesn’t matter what weapons are on the map. If it was just plasma pistol spawns, that map would still be terrible.
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> I’m not really sure what you mean by flawed, why is it flawed?
Lets begin.
The line of sight for the entire map is atrocious. You could evade people extremely easy because of this. Why move on this map? Just sit behind one of the Hallway corners and wait for someone to come, melee shoot. The initial spawns, Blue spawn currently gets Sword, Shotgun, Camo (and camo timer), while red gets a BR and a railgun…(i know you mentioned weapon changes on the map, but it’s currently set up like this). Even if these weapons are removed, just camp with the AR, shoot the person a couple of times and melee. Doesn’t matter what weapons you have on the map, it’s just a terrible map.
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> > > Overgrowth needs to be removed from all playlists, just like Orion. The map is flawed, doesn’t matter what weapons are on the map. If it was just plasma pistol spawns, that map would still be terrible.
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> > I’m not really sure what you mean by flawed, why is it flawed?
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> Lets begin.
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> The line of sight for the entire map is atrocious. You could evade people extremely easy because of this. Why move on this map? Just sit behind one of the Hallway corners and wait for someone to come, melee shoot. The initial spawns, Blue spawn currently gets Sword, Shotgun, Camo (and camo timer), while red gets a BR and a railgun…(i know you mentioned weapon changes on the map, but it’s currently set up like this). Even if these weapons are removed, just camp with the AR, shoot the person a couple of times and melee. Doesn’t matter what weapons you have on the map, it’s just a terrible map.
Fair enough, I have to agree that the map is a bit to much cqb focused. But an AR is easily out gunned with another AR or magnum if you try to camp with it, unless you are consistent with your shots but then you should have no reason to camp.
I’m curious how the map plays differently without the energy sword.
lol people on these forums…first they complain forge maps are UGLY and want original development ones…now some say “it looks good, but Im not watching a movie I am playing a video game” are you guys serious? haha.
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> Im not kidding when I say that when I first played on the map i thought it was a joke.
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> Its backwash from halo 2 level bad. It is literally one of the worst maps I have seen in any multiplayer game. Visually I guess it’s cool, but I’m trying to play a videogame not watch a movie.
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> This map is a punchline for me. It is mind boggling how atrocious this map is.
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> Yeah…
When you do well in the map: “Man, this map is great!”
When you get destroyed in the map: “I freaking hate this map!”
Heh… yeah.
I think there are a lot less campers on the other Arena maps because a lot of camp spots still have 3 ways or more to the camper which is a bad idea for campers. This map has a lot more camping cubbies and really only have to worry about 2 ways in compared to other maps. I did have a lot of fun on this map for Strongholds though… a lot of fun chaos.
Map is terrible. Only way to make it tolerable is to remove camp promoting power items: Shotgun, Sword and Camo.
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> > Im not kidding when I say that when I first played on the map i thought it was a joke.
> > Its backwash from halo 2 level bad. It is literally one of the worst maps I have seen in any multiplayer game. Visually I guess it’s cool, but I’m trying to play a videogame not watch a movie.
> > This map is a punchline for me. It is mind boggling how atrocious this map is.
> > Yeah…
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> When you do well in the map: “Man, this map is great!”
> When you get destroyed in the map: “I freaking hate this map!”
> Heh… yeah.
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> > > Im not kidding when I say that when I first played on the map i thought it was a joke.
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> > > Its backwash from halo 2 level bad. It is literally one of the worst maps I have seen in any multiplayer game. Visually I guess it’s cool, but I’m trying to play a videogame not watch a movie.
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> > > This map is a punchline for me. It is mind boggling how atrocious this map is.
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> > When you get destroyed in the map: “I freaking hate this map!”
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> > Heh… yeah.
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> When my team does well on Overgrowth, “Man this map is terrible. All we did was camp with the Sword and Shotgun and then moved when Camo spawned”.
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> When my team gets destroyed on Overgrowth “Man this map is terrible. All the other team did was camp with the Sword and Shotgun and then moved when Camo spawned”
I was being facetious.
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> > > > Im not kidding when I say that when I first played on the map i thought it was a joke.
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> > > > Its backwash from halo 2 level bad. It is literally one of the worst maps I have seen in any multiplayer game. Visually I guess it’s cool, but I’m trying to play a videogame not watch a movie.
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> > > > This map is a punchline for me. It is mind boggling how atrocious this map is.
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> > > When you do well in the map: “Man, this map is great!”
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> > > When you get destroyed in the map: “I freaking hate this map!”
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> > When my team does well on Overgrowth, “Man this map is terrible. All we did was camp with the Sword and Shotgun and then moved when Camo spawned”.
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> > When my team gets destroyed on Overgrowth “Man this map is terrible. All the other team did was camp with the Sword and Shotgun and then moved when Camo spawned”
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Gotcha! Hard to pick up on that! I stand corrected then.
Personally I like the map. If you’re getting camped stop running the map alone. Run in teams and when the sword or shotty jump out and shoot you; your teammates destroy him!
There ends the story of the shotty camper 
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> Personally I like the map. If you’re getting camped stop running the map alone. Run in teams and when the sword or shotty jump out and shoot you; your teammates destroy him!
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> There ends the story of the shotty camper
In team slayer camping is quickly punished, I was talking about the FFA gametype (free for all/rumble pit)
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> lol people on these forums…first they complain forge maps are UGLY and want original development ones…now some say “it looks good, but Im not watching a movie I am playing a video game” are you guys serious? haha.
You are not helping at all, infact you are just complaining yourself without even touching the topic discussed on this thread.
By all means rant about the Halo community but do it in another topic.
What’s camping? They just control the map better than you. What’s the description of a match of FFA before you start? To control power weapons. Says it right on your screen.
Yeah that map looks great. But even in team slayer the spawns are not balanced. Blue team gets the shotgun and camo off the spawn, with a straight line to the sword. FFA was pretty frustrating here as well. It takes away from the skill aspect really when someone has camo and a shotgun the whole game. I think camo needs to go immediately.
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> What’s camping? They just control the map better than you. What’s the description of a match of FFA before you start? To control power weapons. Says it right on your screen.
In my opinion there is a difference between map control and camping.
If you control a part of the map you keep moving and killing people trying to reach your position. (with power weapons, I never said I don’t take the shotgun and camo if I can)
Camping is waiting in a corner (sometimes not moving for 20-30 seconds) and only running out when a guy is passing by.
I’m not loosing to campers, most of the time I out gun them but it makes the map experience really slow paced and no fun on a 4 player ffa. (often 1-2 guys quit)