Some people on forums don’t know who or appreciate how halo presented females in halo. Most of the females in halo are interesting and really meaningful to a lot in our community. I see people in warzone wearing the full sit of sarah Palmer, the commander!! Can you believe it? A woman as a commander and she even got a sold back story. I know people just don’t like her in general and when they get defeated in warzone and she tells them they have a chance to win by destroying the core they just find it the funniest thing ever. I see people wearing the copperhead aka Olympia vale armor. The most interesting character in the osiris team, she can speak sangheili and she’s the fastest spartan in the osiris team. I can go on forever and list how interesting and valuable the females in halo. For what I know, halo didn’t present females looking sexualized as -yoink- besides cortana. If you tell me they’re all wearing power armors they can’t be sexualized, yes they can. There could of been cut scenes where they’re being sexualized. But there isn’t one! Most of the cut scenes females in the game they look like a total badass. Not to mention some of the male spartans we found to be cool but the truth is they’re just kinda pointless and silly.
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> Some people on forums don’t know who or appreciate how halo presented females in halo. Most of the females in halo are interesting and really meaningful to a lot in our community. I see people in warzone wearing the full sit of sarah Palmer, the commander!! Can you believe it? A woman as a commander and she even got a sold back story. I know people just don’t like her in general and when they get defeated in warzone and she tells them they have a chance to win by destroying the core they just find it the funniest thing ever. I see people wearing the copperhead aka Olympia vale armor. The most interesting character in the osiris team, she can speak sangheili and she’s the fastest spartan in the osiris team. I can go on forever and list how interesting and valuable the females in halo. For what I know, halo didn’t present females looking sexualized as -yoink- besides cortana. If you tell me they’re all wearing power armors they can’t be sexualized, yes they can. There could of been cut scenes where they’re being sexualized. But there isn’t one! Most of the cut scenes females in the game they look like a total badass. Not to mention some of the male spartans we found to be cool but the truth is they’re just kinda pointless and silly.
I must have Missed 60 Minutes. What are you getting at with this.
Fact: Female Spartan character models have bigger butts than male Spartan character models.
Keep your feminism voodoo out of Halo!!
I do have to give props to Bungie and 343i for having strong female characters who are not sexualized (though that wouldn’t be common anyway in a military setting to begin with, so it’s a natural representation they are doing).
However…my issue, personally, with almost every female Spartan character (specifically Spartans, any generation), is that they are on slippery slopes to being Mary Sues, if they aren’t already one by my definition. Now, this is not me saying that male characters can be bad–Yoinks!- and female characters can’t. In fact, there are several male characters in Halo who I really don’t feel are developed properly (example: Locke), and therefore their “bad–Yoink-” moments come off as 343i trying too hard to make them seem “cool”. In addition, this is the day-and-age where we expect characters in video games to be very rounded and developed. back when Halo: CE came out, the Master Chief was just a one-man army with very little personality (though many cutscenes show he can think for himself); everyone had fun simply shooting things up in that game and the character himself wasn’t the most important aspect of the game back then. But now, standards are higher, and if a character isn’t developed well enough, people will notice.
Anyway, on to why I consider most female Spartan characters to be Mary Sues, or close to it: You have Kelly, who is the fastest Spartan to live (yeah, I know, she was genetically, physically, and physiologically augmented to be that fast), which in regards to pure story-telling, seems like an incredibly OP skill to have, and therefore cheapens the character. Then there’s Linda, who is an amazing sniper. Both rarely seem to fail in their endeavors, therefore making them “OP” and difficult to associate/connect with. Even when I was reading the books, they seemed to have very little personality. Sure, they are like family to the rest of their team, they do get angry and frustrated, so on and so forth, but there’s nothing to CONNECT me to these characters. Why should I even care about them, beyond the fact that they are Master Chief’s team? Then there is Sarah Palmer, who comes off as quite proud and has done some questionable acts in the past (a botched assassination of Jul 'Mdama, while essentially dismembering Halsey). I know, I hear that in a comic Sarah was shown to have emotions and so forth, but, again, it’s a character I just can’t seem to associate with. And then, on a much minor note, there is Olympia Vale, who happens to know Sangheilli (yeah, she had a good explanation as for how she learned it so well, but…may I ask where the other Covenant linguists are in the Halo universe? As far as my own knowledge goes, she is the only one. Quite…special). Then, of course, I found basically every one of the Spartan characters in Halo: Reach to be forgettable, so I just disregard all of them, male and female.
I think my issue is that it’s hard to really care about the female Spartans in the stories. I only care about Master Chief, of course, since he’s been there from day one, and then at least Buck has a defined personality that is instantly relatable. Plenty of other male characters, though, are flat or overdone as well, but I am trying to focus more on the women here.
As for non-Spartans, I’ve never had an issue with them. Halsey is a scientist who certainly has shown her good and bad days. Miranda Keyes is following in the footsteps of her father, and she’s never off-put me at all. Then Cortana, who has tons of personality.
I hope that my post here makes some sense… Remember, I haven’t read every book and every comic nor watched any of the movies or other videos. My opinions are based solely on what I have read first-hand, and what I’ve also researched and heard while either in these forums or in Halo Nation.
No! Bungie gave us GOOD female characters. They didn’t shove the female characters down our throats. They weren’t emphasized because they were female, they were just there alongside the men. They fit in well and you didn’t think twice. Miranda keyes was a commander, as well!
Now let’s see how 343 treats women characters. Well, the first cutscene focuses on Halsey standing up to the shadowy male interrogator! Sarah palmer’s first line is mocking the chief and later acts tough saying “Ladies…and others” not even acknowledging men because she’s so tough, even though this is supposed to be a time of gender equality…i think? And of course she’s the one barking orders at you because 343 needs to have strong and tough females characters! Moving on, chief , male, is now RELIANT on Halsey, a female, to save his friend, just as he is reliant on the librarian, another female, to protect him from the didact! And who is in charge of the research facility overseeing the halo and composer? A woman! Because 343 needs more women to be “in charge”.
Moving on to halo 5, once again, Halsey gets the first cutscene honors because…uh…well then we show Osiris fighting getting their info from Lasky, but of course, Palmer needs to be tough and get the last words out. And in this action packed cutscene, who get’s the most attention? Who does the camera focus on doing the most tough stuff? The female characters! Because they need to show that they can be tough just like the male characters! And of course, their saving another female, Halsey, because only SHE can help. Even blue team, when they are first taken to Genesis, all they do is talk about how smart and capable Halsey is. And of course the only two members of Osiris who get exposition that could be relevent to the story are the two female characters, Tanaka survived a world glassing so she can help out on Meridian and Vale learned Sangheli to help translate and explain things on sanghelios. Speaking of Sangelios, Vale makes it a point to point out how remarkable it is that Arbiter is alowing females into his ranks, and of course, it’s a female elite who guides you in that level. And when we get to Genesis, well of course, it’s a moniter who helps guide you through the world and is in charge of the world, and guess what gender this moniter is? Female! Oh and now Cortana is wearing clothes to not show off her figure, and she has the male warden at her complete control and even overpowers the chief and tries to put him in hibernation. Oh, and now she’s in control of the entire galaxy!
Why are the throwaway “characters”, marines etc all still male, or is that not how it works?
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> Why are the throwaway “characters”, marines etc all still male, or is that not how it works?
Didn’t ya know, women can’t die. Cortana is proof.
“copperhead aka Olympia vale armor. The most interesting character in the osiris team, she can speak sangheili and she’s the fastest spartan in the osiris team.”
this is false, I find Buck to be the character from Osiris to have the title of most interesting character.
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> Why are the throwaway “characters”, marines etc all still male, or is that not how it works?
not all marines are male, look at halo 2
I woulden’t say vale is the most interesting character on osiris that clearly goes to buck
the only cool female spartans in my opinion are kelly and linda
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> I woulden’t say vale is the most interesting character on osiris that clearly goes to buck
> the only cool female spartans in my opinion are kelly and linda
I support this. Buck is interesting because we have seen his backstory, in ODST and New Blood. We’ve learned how deep Buck’s lore is. The same goes for Blue team. If anything Vale and Tanaka are the least interesting because we barely know anything about them besides the dialogue in-game.
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> I woulden’t say vale is the most interesting character on osiris that clearly goes to buck
> the only cool female spartans in my opinion are kelly and linda
i has to agree on this
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> Some people on forums don’t know who or appreciate how halo presented females in halo. Most of the females in halo are interesting and really meaningful to a lot in our community. I see people in warzone wearing the full sit of sarah Palmer, the commander!! Can you believe it? A woman as a commander and she even got a sold back story. I know people just don’t like her in general and when they get defeated in warzone and she tells them they have a chance to win by destroying the core they just find it the funniest thing ever. I see people wearing the copperhead aka Olympia vale armor. The most interesting character in the osiris team, she can speak sangheili and she’s the fastest spartan in the osiris team. I can go on forever and list how interesting and valuable the females in halo. For what I know, halo didn’t present females looking sexualized as -yoink- besides cortana. If you tell me they’re all wearing power armors they can’t be sexualized, yes they can. There could of been cut scenes where they’re being sexualized. But there isn’t one! Most of the cut scenes females in the game they look like a total badass. Not to mention some of the male spartans we found to be cool but the truth is they’re just kinda pointless and silly.
Palmer annoys the crap out of me. I only wear the full Scout Armor set because I used it in Halo 3. She doesn’t deserve to wear such a legendary armor. But the other female characters are cool like Vale.
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> > I woulden’t say vale is the most interesting character on osiris that clearly goes to buck
> > the only cool female spartans in my opinion are kelly and linda
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> I support this. Buck is interesting because we have seen his backstory, in ODST and New Blood. We’ve learned how deep Buck’s lore is. The same goes for Blue team. If anything Vale and Tanaka are the least interesting because we barely know anything about them besides the dialogue in-game.
Lets not over look Buck is also castle which is a great show
I do not honestly care about the portrayal of women in video games. If the developer wants to sexualize the characters, that’s fine. If the developer doesn’t want to, that’s also fine. But keep your feminist tumblr SJW crap out of my video games. That is all.
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> > I support this. Buck is interesting because we have seen his backstory, in ODST and New Blood. We’ve learned how deep Buck’s lore is. The same goes for Blue team. If anything Vale and Tanaka are the least interesting because we barely know anything about them besides the dialogue in-game.
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> Lets not over look Buck is also castle which is a great show
Firefly anyone? 
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> > Why are the throwaway “characters”, marines etc all still male, or is that not how it works?
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They’re just missing in action.