Seems a little silly to be so happy about a bunch of helmets being added into the game, but regardless if they see it or not, I’m just putting out a thank you to whoever at 343 brought it up.
That MK V helmet is a blast from my childhood playing CE, and it has a great look. I hope it continues to be in every Halo game.
(Everyone cross your fingers for black undersuits)
Don’t we already HAVE black undersuits?? What about the 3+ variants of the CE, Recon, and EVA helmets already IN THE GAME???
Why are you guys even excited for this stuff? It’s practically all already there! Why don’t you guys ask for content that actually adds to the GAME??
The one thing at the top of my list since the game launched was that Halo CE helmet. Then second was at least a decent campaign. I didn’t get either at launch, but now I’m getting my favorite helmet, so I’m excited.
The game has MK IV, and MK V delta which looks like someone was trying to make the CE helmet from just listening to a description of it, and the MK VI. There isn’t even one version of the CE helmet.
Also, no, we don’t have black undersuits. The things are half black, and half whatever your primary color is. Simple change that takes away from the overall look.
I agree with you OP, these helmets are awesome. I love the classic Mark V and the Security Gen 1 is AMAZING. I just want them to release a Halo 3 Helmet and Armor pack now!
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> Also, no, we don’t have black undersuits. The things are half black, and half whatever your primary color is. Simple change that takes away from the overall look.
Well technically you can if you have the primary color set to black.
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> Don’t we already HAVE black undersuits?? What about the 3+ variants of the CE, Recon, and EVA helmets already IN THE GAME???
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> Why are you guys even excited for this stuff? It’s practically all already there! Why don’t you guys ask for content that actually adds to the GAME??
I read that last part and you make it sound like you don’t play the game anymore. Personally, I’m hyped about it, can’t wait to see what helmet to use 
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> > Don’t we already HAVE black undersuits?? What about the 3+ variants of the CE, Recon, and EVA helmets already IN THE GAME???
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> > Why are you guys even excited for this stuff? It’s practically all already there! Why don’t you guys ask for content that actually adds to the GAME??
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> I read that last part and you make it sound like you don’t play the game anymore. Personally, I’m hyped about it, can’t wait to see what helmet to use
I play the game all the time… the gameplay (overall) is great, but we need more ways to play and different level design to make things more varied and interesting.
The map pool gets pretty stale when 75% of the maps are symmetric in design, feature roughly the same base layouts (base, 2 “tower”, open/closed designs) and on top of that, remixed maps that generally don’t feel different enough than their OG maps. All maps are roughly the same size and shape, with a handful of outliers… and STILL… where are classic modes?? Oddball and KOTH are STILL nowhere to be found! Ricochet has a ton of potential in this game, and again, nowhere to be found!
We need some maps designed around Ricochet…that double up as good Slayer and Flag maps, similar to Bombing Run on Unreal Tournament… but NOPE! …here’s a ton of barely used/played Breakout maps!
It’d be cool to see original maps with new, diverse layouts, more advanced movement options built into the maps to further challenge higher ranked players… but not frustrate lower ranked players… expand on what we have and push the game further based on how the player-base has evolved in how Spartan Abilities are used.
But nah… instead let’s just have the 5th iteration of the same helmet/armor! That’s cool… really feels like I’m playing a great game now that I can wear another Recon helmet!
It’s fanbases like this that are slowly running Halo into the ground… I mean let’s not even address real issues that affect the quality/playability of the game, and let’s just have more useless stuff! So all the dungeon-lords can role play with their Loremaster 2017 Mark XVII armor!
Sorry to be so brash, but we need to start looking at critical issues in the game and improving the gameplay and content creation element in terms of HOW this game is supported!
Yeah, my Spartan is gonna look pretty cool.
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> > > Don’t we already HAVE black undersuits?? What about the 3+ variants of the CE, Recon, and EVA helmets already IN THE GAME???
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> > > Why are you guys even excited for this stuff? It’s practically all already there! Why don’t you guys ask for content that actually adds to the GAME??
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> > I read that last part and you make it sound like you don’t play the game anymore. Personally, I’m hyped about it, can’t wait to see what helmet to use
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> I play the game all the time… the gameplay (overall) is great, but we need more ways to play and different level design to make things more varied and interesting.
>
> The map pool gets pretty stale when 75% of the maps are symmetric in design, feature roughly the same base layouts (base, 2 “tower”, open/closed designs) and on top of that, remixed maps that generally don’t feel different enough than their OG maps. All maps are roughly the same size and shape, with a handful of outliers… and STILL… where are classic modes?? Oddball and KOTH are STILL nowhere to be found! Ricochet has a ton of potential in this game, and again, nowhere to be found!
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> We need some maps designed around Ricochet…that double up as good Slayer and Flag maps, similar to Bombing Run on Unreal Tournament… but NOPE! …here’s a ton of barely used/played Breakout maps!
>
> It’d be cool to see original maps with new, diverse layouts, more advanced movement options built into the maps to further challenge higher ranked players… but not frustrate lower ranked players… expand on what we have and push the game further based on how the player-base has evolved in how Spartan Abilities are used.
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> But nah… instead let’s just have the 5th iteration of the same helmet/armor! That’s cool… really feels like I’m playing a great game now that I can wear another Recon helmet!
>
> It’s fanbases like this that are slowly running Halo into the ground… I mean let’s not even address real issues that affect the quality/playability of the game, and let’s just have more useless stuff! So all the dungeon-lords can role play with their Loremaster 2017 Mark XVII armor!
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> Sorry to be so brash, but we need to start looking at critical issues in the game and improving the gameplay and content creation element in terms of HOW this game is supported!
Those issues do need to be addressed, but I don’t think they pulled all the map designers, who were totally gonna work on fixing all the maps and making new ones, and instead had them whip up some classic helmets. If those are things they wanted to do, they could easily do them and still make helmets at the same time, it’s not like the helmet budget drained all the resources … they could do both, is what I’m saying. I have a feeling that, at this point, all those people are probably working on Halo 6 and hopefully applying all the lessons learned from Halo 5 to those maps. That game is expected to launch holiday 2018, so they have a little over a year and a half, and each title is expected to be bigger and better than the last and we don’t want a “should have been there at launch” fiasco again and “add the this, that, and the other thing from Halo’s x,y, & z to Halo 6! Shoulda been there at launch!” because we expect every Halo game to be a turducken of all previous games combined.
Point is, I’m guessing at this point, we’re not getting many more major updates to Halo 5. Just little things.
it is cool. but we also need better official maps and less MLG people designing them
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> Don’t we already HAVE black undersuits?? What about the 3+ variants of the CE, Recon, and EVA helmets already IN THE GAME???
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> Why are you guys even excited for this stuff? It’s practically all already there! Why don’t you guys ask for content that actually adds to the GAME??
Because if experience has taught me anything, pandering to the nostalgic ends of the community is a pretty smart move in terms of business.
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> Yeah, my Spartan is gonna look pretty cool.
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> > > > Don’t we already HAVE black undersuits?? What about the 3+ variants of the CE, Recon, and EVA helmets already IN THE GAME???
> > > >
> > > > Why are you guys even excited for this stuff? It’s practically all already there! Why don’t you guys ask for content that actually adds to the GAME??
> > >
> > > I read that last part and you make it sound like you don’t play the game anymore. Personally, I’m hyped about it, can’t wait to see what helmet to use
> >
> > I play the game all the time… the gameplay (overall) is great, but we need more ways to play and different level design to make things more varied and interesting.
> >
> > The map pool gets pretty stale when 75% of the maps are symmetric in design, feature roughly the same base layouts (base, 2 “tower”, open/closed designs) and on top of that, remixed maps that generally don’t feel different enough than their OG maps. All maps are roughly the same size and shape, with a handful of outliers… and STILL… where are classic modes?? Oddball and KOTH are STILL nowhere to be found! Ricochet has a ton of potential in this game, and again, nowhere to be found!
> >
> > We need some maps designed around Ricochet…that double up as good Slayer and Flag maps, similar to Bombing Run on Unreal Tournament… but NOPE! …here’s a ton of barely used/played Breakout maps!
> >
> > It’d be cool to see original maps with new, diverse layouts, more advanced movement options built into the maps to further challenge higher ranked players… but not frustrate lower ranked players… expand on what we have and push the game further based on how the player-base has evolved in how Spartan Abilities are used.
> >
> > But nah… instead let’s just have the 5th iteration of the same helmet/armor! That’s cool… really feels like I’m playing a great game now that I can wear another Recon helmet!
> >
> > It’s fanbases like this that are slowly running Halo into the ground… I mean let’s not even address real issues that affect the quality/playability of the game, and let’s just have more useless stuff! So all the dungeon-lords can role play with their Loremaster 2017 Mark XVII armor!
> >
> > Sorry to be so brash, but we need to start looking at critical issues in the game and improving the gameplay and content creation element in terms of HOW this game is supported!
>
> Those issues do need to be addressed, but I don’t think they pulled all the map designers, who were totally gonna work on fixing all the maps and making new ones, and instead had them whip up some classic helmets. If those are things they wanted to do, they could easily do them and still make helmets at the same time, it’s not like the helmet budget drained all the resources … they could do both, is what I’m saying. I have a feeling that, at this point, all those people are probably working on Halo 6 and hopefully applying all the lessons learned from Halo 5 to those maps. That game is expected to launch holiday 2018, so they have a little over a year and a half, and each title is expected to be bigger and better than the last and we don’t want a “should have been there at launch” fiasco again and “add the this, that, and the other thing from Halo’s x,y, & z to Halo 6! Shoulda been there at launch!” because we expect every Halo game to be a turducken of all previous games combined.
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> Point is, I’m guessing at this point, we’re not getting many more major updates to Halo 5. Just little things.
Right… but when you take the entirely of rehashed content in the game, how much of that time and money could’ve been used to develop more worthwhile additions to the game? So this duplication allowed for a cheap means to generate more money for 343… allow for donations for quality new maps? Fans that care will pay… and WZ players will continue to buy REQ’s for WZ weapons.
The REQ unlock system needs to be redesigned in terms of what kinds of content is made available. 5th iterations of visors of helmets and cosmetics are just flat out unacceptable. If it’s about cosmetics, do skins and armor skins for a more streamlined pool of armor, do not physically duplicate armor. That is poor design. The armor selection screen is a cluttered mess.
Above all, gameplay first… condense the vision on map design, allow for dev made BTB maps to double over as WZ maps, 8v8, or to compromise 10v10 max, to keep the maps from being too ridiculously big for BTB, and focus on diversifying the Arena map pool like traditional Halo titles. Keep the 4v4 theme, but allow for some maps to vary in size and shape, to better support Multi-team or 5v5 games, and some to be versatile enough for small 2v2 games. Segment some maps, open up others… offer a mix.
Yeah, I like it too
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> Don’t we already HAVE black undersuits?? What about the 3+ variants of the CE, Recon, and EVA helmets already IN THE GAME???
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> Why are you guys even excited for this stuff? It’s practically all already there! Why don’t you guys ask for content that actually adds to the GAME??
343 Recon is bulkier and less sleek than Bungie Recon. Doesn’t look as good to most old fans
The same applies to EVA, except it is sleek rather than the bulky look of Halo 3 and Reach EVA.
The Mk. 5 we have now, I don’t know what it is but it ain’t Mk.5.
Mk.4 looks.
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> > > > > Don’t we already HAVE black undersuits?? What about the 3+ variants of the CE, Recon, and EVA helmets already IN THE GAME???
> > > > >
> > > > > Why are you guys even excited for this stuff? It’s practically all already there! Why don’t you guys ask for content that actually adds to the GAME??
> > > >
> > > > I read that last part and you make it sound like you don’t play the game anymore. Personally, I’m hyped about it, can’t wait to see what helmet to use
> > >
> > > I play the game all the time… the gameplay (overall) is great, but we need more ways to play and different level design to make things more varied and interesting.
> > >
> > > The map pool gets pretty stale when 75% of the maps are symmetric in design, feature roughly the same base layouts (base, 2 “tower”, open/closed designs) and on top of that, remixed maps that generally don’t feel different enough than their OG maps. All maps are roughly the same size and shape, with a handful of outliers… and STILL… where are classic modes?? Oddball and KOTH are STILL nowhere to be found! Ricochet has a ton of potential in this game, and again, nowhere to be found!
> > >
> > > We need some maps designed around Ricochet…that double up as good Slayer and Flag maps, similar to Bombing Run on Unreal Tournament… but NOPE! …here’s a ton of barely used/played Breakout maps!
> > >
> > > It’d be cool to see original maps with new, diverse layouts, more advanced movement options built into the maps to further challenge higher ranked players… but not frustrate lower ranked players… expand on what we have and push the game further based on how the player-base has evolved in how Spartan Abilities are used.
> > >
> > > But nah… instead let’s just have the 5th iteration of the same helmet/armor! That’s cool… really feels like I’m playing a great game now that I can wear another Recon helmet!
> > >
> > > It’s fanbases like this that are slowly running Halo into the ground… I mean let’s not even address real issues that affect the quality/playability of the game, and let’s just have more useless stuff! So all the dungeon-lords can role play with their Loremaster 2017 Mark XVII armor!
> > >
> > > Sorry to be so brash, but we need to start looking at critical issues in the game and improving the gameplay and content creation element in terms of HOW this game is supported!
> >
> > Those issues do need to be addressed, but I don’t think they pulled all the map designers, who were totally gonna work on fixing all the maps and making new ones, and instead had them whip up some classic helmets. If those are things they wanted to do, they could easily do them and still make helmets at the same time, it’s not like the helmet budget drained all the resources … they could do both, is what I’m saying. I have a feeling that, at this point, all those people are probably working on Halo 6 and hopefully applying all the lessons learned from Halo 5 to those maps. That game is expected to launch holiday 2018, so they have a little over a year and a half, and each title is expected to be bigger and better than the last and we don’t want a “should have been there at launch” fiasco again and “add the this, that, and the other thing from Halo’s x,y, & z to Halo 6! Shoulda been there at launch!” because we expect every Halo game to be a turducken of all previous games combined.
> >
> > Point is, I’m guessing at this point, we’re not getting many more major updates to Halo 5. Just little things.
>
> Right… but when you take the entirely of rehashed content in the game, how much of that time and money could’ve been used to develop more worthwhile additions to the game? So this duplication allowed for a cheap means to generate more money for 343… allow for donations for quality new maps? Fans that care will pay… and WZ players will continue to buy REQ’s for WZ weapons.
>
> The REQ unlock system needs to be redesigned in terms of what kinds of content is made available. 5th iterations of visors of helmets and cosmetics are just flat out unacceptable. If it’s about cosmetics, do skins and armor skins for a more streamlined pool of armor, do not physically duplicate armor. That is poor design. The armor selection screen is a cluttered mess.
>
> Above all, gameplay first… condense the vision on map design, allow for dev made BTB maps to double over as WZ maps, 8v8, or to compromise 10v10 max, to keep the maps from being too ridiculously big for BTB, and focus on diversifying the Arena map pool like traditional Halo titles. Keep the 4v4 theme, but allow for some maps to vary in size and shape, to better support Multi-team or 5v5 games, and some to be versatile enough for small 2v2 games. Segment some maps, open up others… offer a mix.
I’m not saying you’re wrong … personally, I’d like the REQ system gone. People keep saying it’s a necessary evil and it needs to be there to compete with other titles and that 343’s way has been less detrimental to the gameplay than other systems, but I still don’t like it. I guess it’s better than the paid map packs we used to get since this way doesn’t divide the population or add DLC playlists.
What I’m saying is, at this point in Halo 5’s lifespan, I don’t expect to see anymore major updates to the game or any new maps, just little things here & there to boost the purchasing of REQs or keep folks playing by dangling a carrot on a stick (like we’re getting Thursday) or playlist changes. They should have made changes to the maps ages ago (some they did, like Pegasus and a few BTB maps, but it didn’t go far enough). But I don’t think the little things we’re going to see from here on out are in lieu of major or important changes because those who would be making those changes are working on Halo 6. Again, this is just my speculation. I think Monitor’s Bounty was the last big update, but I could be wrong.
It sucks how little attention these kinds of threads get.
I’m extremely grateful and happy that 343 are adding these helmets in the game.
Keep up the positive feedback Spartan, good job!
People 3D modeling the helmets arnt the same people working on map layouts. All the models already existed anyway, they just needed to be ported, from what I understand. If anything, they pulled some modelers off of Halo 6 and put them on this req pack. The multiplayer maps and the helmets are unrelated.
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> Don’t we already HAVE black undersuits?? What about the 3+ variants of the CE, Recon, and EVA helmets already IN THE GAME???
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> Why are you guys even excited for this stuff? It’s practically all already there! Why don’t you guys ask for content that actually adds to the GAME??
Um, nostalgia. For example, why to CS:GO players spend hundreds of irl currency on SKINS? And the helmets actually add to the game.
