Falsely banned for cheating Confirmed

The main problem i have as someone who is not cheating but got falsely banned is not the ban itself. Its the fact that i dont know how to protect myself from this happening again. When you’re cheating you just quit the cheats and move on. But thats not the case for me. I got a ban i didnt deserve and will always be scared of playing the game from now on since i dont know what might trigger it.

Well, if I ever get banned the first thing I won’t do is post about it for everyone to see.

Since i have nothing to hide i have no problem if everyone sees my profile and stats. No cheater would ever suggest you do that.

Right here.

And since I know you’re going to be pedantic and say that that’s not actually proof,

EDIT BEFORE POSTING: I must admit I misstepped here.
As I was scrolling through the thread i read this.

I thought a simple Google search would bring it up, but I was mistaken. So no, I have not provided proof that someone was unbanned for their ability to provide proof. But hopefully @UnheardCARNAGE can.

Not that any of that even matters at all, because burden of proof should never fall on the accused. Why don’t you prove to me there aren’t WMDs in Iraq right now? You can’t and it’s an idiotic thing to ask. Like asking OP to prove that he wasn’t cheating. Which you keep accusing him of doing. Without proof, might I add.

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You really should tone down your agressive style of posting…

I didn’t accuse OP of cheating. 1) I say it looks plausible to me that he got banned for cheating looking at his stats and game history.
2) I asked him what he is expecting. 343 isn’t providing any info on a ban. It’s shady but understandable to a certain extend since it massively increases the workload.

And: do we have confirmation that 343 bans people by the sheer amount of reports? They did but afaik they said this ain’t happening anymore. Plus: why should, let’s say 20 people report him if they wouldzhave any reason to BELIEVE he’s cheating. People stomp over people all the time but they don’t get banned because all players of 5 matches report them… This doesn’t happen if the games back to back doesn’t feel fishy to everyone.

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Imagine telling someone who just apologized to you to tone it down.

Sounds like an accusation to me :thinking:.

You spent like six comments trying to make convincing arguments for why he may have cheated and the only time you even said anything close to the opposite was “But why would anyone cheat in social?” Which doesn’t make any sense because people cheat in social all the time. People cheat in super casual COD games. People cheat in literally everything given enough population.

People don’t have multiple accounts? People don’t have buddies that will help them report people? Especially little kiddies who form “clans”. Seems a little narrow minded to just assume he’s an obvious cheater because 343 says so. Their track record is soooooo great, they never lie or cut corners or anything like that.

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If anyone still wants to watch video of COLD5H0T’s gameplay. Last time I used the match replay feature it was so broken it looked like everyone was cheating.

BTW, if it is ever somehow revealed that OP was actually cheating, then I’d scorn him just the same as any right minded person would. But to constantly accuse him of being a cheater when he’s just trying to find some answers to his problems is pathetic and annoying.

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Wait. That might be exactly what happened. Salty player was like “I gotta see how this guy was so good.” Not knowing how bad theatre is. They find COLD5H0T’s SPARTAN and watch him scoot around, rubberband, aim where the enemy isn’t and still get kills. They download the video to their Xbox and then offload it to their device or PC to attach to a cheating complaint. And 343i in their infinite wisdom and drowning under tasks forgot that Theatre Mode is broken and accepted the griefing player’s false report.

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Guys arguing about its here is not going to help anyone right now. You have better luck asking for help on there twitter page as Halo Waypoint reply time is known to be a lot slower.

Yeah honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if this is the case, as I have seen that in other games. The replays were so broken it looked like players were cheating, when it actually wasn’t the case. Comparisons of in-game mathces and their replays were also made, which showed that the replays were simply broken and unreliable.

I was so excited to use Theatre mode to watch how my friends played and was so disappointed at how utterly broken it was. This has to be the way the reporter had gotten “proof” if 343i requires any when reporting or just takes it seriously after several repeat reports.

Newsflash, it’s not really an accusation.

343 banned him for a month, remember? You’re just choosing to ignore that tidbit of information.

If you wanna play the hero, why don’t you do something to help besides getting mad at other forum goers for being suspicious. I mean, it’s not like we don’t have reason to.

It took me quite some time to even think of it.
But, if we assume that using third party programs would result in a permaban, then this one month doesn’t really make that much sense. Unless they/we count abusing glitches as a form of cheating, the ban period would make a lot more sense, atleast in my opinion.

I don’t know if there’s a glitch in weapon handling, vehicles, equipment or in any maps which can be used to gain an advantage, but for OP that would maybe be something to consider.

based on how you make your judgements, it’s pretty clear you don’t know what you’re talking about. Whatever you say is irrelevant. It’s all about how you construct your judgements.

In order to prove he wasn’t cheating, he’d need to know what time of which game they submitted as evidence. Since that information is not provided, there’s neither a way for him to prove it, nor a way for you to know if any evidence he submits is related. Please, think.

bringing attention to problems is required if the problems are to be addressed.

Which video? Which game? Which hour? How is he supposed to know?

Which is why it’s concerning that he’s saying it wasn’t earned, especially since precedence for this behavior exists from 343i. They said they’d no longer do it, but their track record for keeping to plans is poor.

you think people playing mnk feel justified in getting hacks because they play mnk and think it should be better?

:roll_of_toilet_paper:

How do you know? What are you basing this statement on?

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so, i feel like if absolutely nothing else, it would be really nice if the video used to prove someone was cheating was attached to the report, for exactly this reason. You could even give it a 343 watermark to make it harder to falsely reproduce, or a qr code. Heck, make a cheater evidence video database.

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Getting people banned by mass reporting, and nothing else, is extremely dangerous, and I suspect those doing the mass report would also be subject to disciplinary actions.

I got threatened with a mass report from a rather large clan ages ago in CoD. A kid got cross with me over some people in a group who I was part of. He told me he’d get his clan to report me. I quickly found the leader and sorted things out.

What happens when a clan of say, 40 members, start targeting people with mass reports? And the system bans based on number of reports? You get ban issues, and people do not want to use your system anymore.

Now that doesn’t say that mass reports won’t result in bans, but if it does, I suspect there are checks and balances in place.
Like for instance a very important one.
Has the reporting player actually played with the accused?
Not only that but I really think that reports are reviewed by people, and if suspicion arise further investigation is done.
If I for instance were to report someone as AFK for an entire match, with video proof and pictures, I doubt it’s grounds for a ban, they probably review a larger part of their game history and act accordingly.
Atleast that’s what I want them to do.

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My mistake it happened in the MCC. The player was falsely reported enough times and was given a 1 month ban which they tried to appeal, but was denied. After taking to Twitter and reaching out to mint Blitz the moderation team re-reviewed and reversed their ‘final’ decision.

Here is the Twitter thread.

https://twitter.com/ZondaTheGoat/status/1570106278072168451?s=20&t=JrE7su_KTzhTWkQaBHYHVw

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What logic is that? I reffered to the TONE you wrote… the apology is completely irrelevant for this. I just didn’t like the hostile attitude.

Not to me. A simple “I had a bad connection” could have been an answer. And: discussing a potential ban for cheating involves the game history… it’s completely normal.

Your point? You are saying the whole time 343 messed up but now you are talking against the one point I wrote in favor of OP? lol :smiley:

So now we have a whole army against him. For playing SWAT. Sounds reasonable. :smiley:

Please, enlighten me. I don’t even know what you are referreing to…

It’s only a problem IF it is true. That’s the whole point of this argument.

The last year? How many ACTUAL cases of banning people for NO reason do you know. How many threads have been made about getting banned because enough people reported a player? There are a few examples… one streamer and Mint Blitz friend/whatever come to my mind.

Plot twist:

Someone brought up the fact that a one month ban for using external software seems pretty easy, I always thought you earn a perma ban for wall hacking or an aimbot. This, combined with the fact that the OP said he responded pretty harsh to messages send to him leaves me rather with the thought of him beeing banned for writing nasty stuff than cheating. Or did he get the message “banned for cheating”?

Either way this discussion is pretty dead. All the facts are on the table, people advised him what to do, if his ban isn’t lifted a) 343 has their reasons or b) they are to stubborn to admit they made a mistake (which they didn’t in the case of Mint’s buddy). So again… what do you expect as an outcome of this thread?

And we still don’t know the reason WHY and HOW he even got banned. OP and you are ASSUMING it was because of mass reports.

Reading the first post again:

I guess we all received messages acuing of cheating. Infinte is such an inconsistent mess when it comes to netcode that some games FEEL like you are cheating. Same the other way around… I played against people thinking theres something fishy. Some games feel like you don’t have any aim assist at all.

But multiple games in a row? Getting reported every match seems unlikeley. But maybe the sbmm is that soft that he is constantly playing against golds and low plats where it feels to them he is cheating. Possible, I give him that. I exclusively play ranked, so I’ve no idea how social plays…
But why isn’t it happening to other players? Why isn’t the board flodded with threads like that?

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