As much as I wanna be excited for this new Halo game, I’m also not sure I trust 343 to deliver on their promises anymore than they have in the past.
Halo 5’s advertising led us to believe there was some huge rivalry with Chief and Locke that would be the main focus of the game, but in reality all we got was a 2 minute unplayable cutscene, and a campaign that only had chief in it about 15% of the time.
Halo MCC promised the definitive experience of the old games ‘precisely the way you remembered it’ and ‘exactly as it shipped 10 years ago’ and ‘On Dedicated Servers,’
but in reality what we got was an unbelievably broken, buggy unfinished mess with NO dedicated servers, which was one of the main reasons i bought the game. Only NOW are 343 apparently going to Actually fix it. FOUR -Yoinking!- YEARS LATER.
I was super excited for Halo 4, 5 and the MCC, but was let down all three times by 343. Why should we think it will go any differently this time around. How do we know it won’t just be another huge disappointment.
I hope that Infinite will return to what made Halo great, and won’t just be another Halo 5 except with an art style improvement, but regardless, I’m not holding my breath.
Not much have been advertised yet, only thing we have seen is the engine demo.
And surely very few games show what the real game is before the launch to some degree and none fully (obviously, that would be spoilers). Many times its some demo footage that is not exactly the same as the final product so trailers being not exactly what the game is is nothing new really.
But that just means if people want good products bit of criticism is needed with fairness as trying to see games themselves as individual products.
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> As much as I wanna be excited for this new Halo game, I’m also not sure I trust 343 to deliver on their promises anymore than they have in the past.
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> Halo 5’s advertising led us to believe there was some huge rivalry with Chief and Locke that would be the main focus of the game, but in reality all we got was a 2 minute unplayable cutscene, and a campaign that only had chief in it about 15% of the time.
>
> Halo MCC promised the definitive experience of the old games ‘precisely the way you remembered it’ and ‘exactly as it shipped 10 years ago’ and ‘On Dedicated Servers,’
> but in reality what we got was an unbelievably broken, buggy unfinished mess with NO dedicated servers, which was one of the main reasons i bought the game. Only NOW are 343 apparently going to Actually fix it. FOUR -Yoinking!- YEARS LATER.
>
> I was super excited for Halo 4, 5 and the MCC, but was let down all three times by 343. Why should we think it will go any differently this time around. How do we know it won’t just be another huge disappointment.
>
> I hope that Infinite will return to what made Halo great, and won’t just be another Halo 5 except with an art style improvement, but regardless, I’m not holding my breath.
regarding 5 I heard it had a massive rewrite during development cause Microsoft intervened
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> > As much as I wanna be excited for this new Halo game, I’m also not sure I trust 343 to deliver on their promises anymore than they have in the past.
> >
> > Halo 5’s advertising led us to believe there was some huge rivalry with Chief and Locke that would be the main focus of the game, but in reality all we got was a 2 minute unplayable cutscene, and a campaign that only had chief in it about 15% of the time.
> >
> > Halo MCC promised the definitive experience of the old games ‘precisely the way you remembered it’ and ‘exactly as it shipped 10 years ago’ and ‘On Dedicated Servers,’
> > but in reality what we got was an unbelievably broken, buggy unfinished mess with NO dedicated servers, which was one of the main reasons i bought the game. Only NOW are 343 apparently going to Actually fix it. FOUR -Yoinking!- YEARS LATER.
> >
> > I was super excited for Halo 4, 5 and the MCC, but was let down all three times by 343. Why should we think it will go any differently this time around. How do we know it won’t just be another huge disappointment.
> >
> > I hope that Infinite will return to what made Halo great, and won’t just be another Halo 5 except with an art style improvement, but regardless, I’m not holding my breath.
>
> regarding 5 I heard it had a massive rewrite during development cause Microsoft intervened
yeah, wasn’t the writer for 4 and 5 also an employee dumped on 343 by Microsoft, thats what I heard
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> > > As much as I wanna be excited for this new Halo game, I’m also not sure I trust 343 to deliver on their promises anymore than they have in the past.
> > >
> > > Halo 5’s advertising led us to believe there was some huge rivalry with Chief and Locke that would be the main focus of the game, but in reality all we got was a 2 minute unplayable cutscene, and a campaign that only had chief in it about 15% of the time.
> > >
> > > Halo MCC promised the definitive experience of the old games ‘precisely the way you remembered it’ and ‘exactly as it shipped 10 years ago’ and ‘On Dedicated Servers,’
> > > but in reality what we got was an unbelievably broken, buggy unfinished mess with NO dedicated servers, which was one of the main reasons i bought the game. Only NOW are 343 apparently going to Actually fix it. FOUR -Yoinking!- YEARS LATER.
> > >
> > > I was super excited for Halo 4, 5 and the MCC, but was let down all three times by 343. Why should we think it will go any differently this time around. How do we know it won’t just be another huge disappointment.
> > >
> > > I hope that Infinite will return to what made Halo great, and won’t just be another Halo 5 except with an art style improvement, but regardless, I’m not holding my breath.
> >
> > regarding 5 I heard it had a massive rewrite during development cause Microsoft intervened
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> yeah, wasn’t the writer for 4 and 5 also an employee dumped on 343 by Microsoft, thats what I heard
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> > > > As much as I wanna be excited for this new Halo game, I’m also not sure I trust 343 to deliver on their promises anymore than they have in the past.
> > > >
> > > > Halo 5’s advertising led us to believe there was some huge rivalry with Chief and Locke that would be the main focus of the game, but in reality all we got was a 2 minute unplayable cutscene, and a campaign that only had chief in it about 15% of the time.
> > > >
> > > > Halo MCC promised the definitive experience of the old games ‘precisely the way you remembered it’ and ‘exactly as it shipped 10 years ago’ and ‘On Dedicated Servers,’
> > > > but in reality what we got was an unbelievably broken, buggy unfinished mess with NO dedicated servers, which was one of the main reasons i bought the game. Only NOW are 343 apparently going to Actually fix it. FOUR -Yoinking!- YEARS LATER.
> > > >
> > > > I was super excited for Halo 4, 5 and the MCC, but was let down all three times by 343. Why should we think it will go any differently this time around. How do we know it won’t just be another huge disappointment.
> > > >
> > > > I hope that Infinite will return to what made Halo great, and won’t just be another Halo 5 except with an art style improvement, but regardless, I’m not holding my breath.
> > >
> > > regarding 5 I heard it had a massive rewrite during development cause Microsoft intervened
> >
> > yeah, wasn’t the writer for 4 and 5 also an employee dumped on 343 by Microsoft, thats what I heard
>
> I thought Halo 4’s writer was a different person?
it was he left a year after 4 came out then reed came in for 5
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> > > > > As much as I wanna be excited for this new Halo game, I’m also not sure I trust 343 to deliver on their promises anymore than they have in the past.
> > > > >
> > > > > Halo 5’s advertising led us to believe there was some huge rivalry with Chief and Locke that would be the main focus of the game, but in reality all we got was a 2 minute unplayable cutscene, and a campaign that only had chief in it about 15% of the time.
> > > > >
> > > > > Halo MCC promised the definitive experience of the old games ‘precisely the way you remembered it’ and ‘exactly as it shipped 10 years ago’ and ‘On Dedicated Servers,’
> > > > > but in reality what we got was an unbelievably broken, buggy unfinished mess with NO dedicated servers, which was one of the main reasons i bought the game. Only NOW are 343 apparently going to Actually fix it. FOUR -Yoinking!- YEARS LATER.
> > > > >
> > > > > I was super excited for Halo 4, 5 and the MCC, but was let down all three times by 343. Why should we think it will go any differently this time around. How do we know it won’t just be another huge disappointment.
> > > > >
> > > > > I hope that Infinite will return to what made Halo great, and won’t just be another Halo 5 except with an art style improvement, but regardless, I’m not holding my breath.
> > > >
> > > > regarding 5 I heard it had a massive rewrite during development cause Microsoft intervened
> > >
> > > yeah, wasn’t the writer for 4 and 5 also an employee dumped on 343 by Microsoft, thats what I heard
> >
> > I thought Halo 4’s writer was a different person?
>
> it was he left a year after 4 came out then reed came in for 5
That’s what I thought. Halo 5’s story would have probably been better if the H4 writer was still their. H4’s story had some flaws, but it definitely had a good base.
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> > > > > > 2533274939777077;1:
> > > > > > As much as I wanna be excited for this new Halo game, I’m also not sure I trust 343 to deliver on their promises anymore than they have in the past.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Halo 5’s advertising led us to believe there was some huge rivalry with Chief and Locke that would be the main focus of the game, but in reality all we got was a 2 minute unplayable cutscene, and a campaign that only had chief in it about 15% of the time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Halo MCC promised the definitive experience of the old games ‘precisely the way you remembered it’ and ‘exactly as it shipped 10 years ago’ and ‘On Dedicated Servers,’
> > > > > > but in reality what we got was an unbelievably broken, buggy unfinished mess with NO dedicated servers, which was one of the main reasons i bought the game. Only NOW are 343 apparently going to Actually fix it. FOUR -Yoinking!- YEARS LATER.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I was super excited for Halo 4, 5 and the MCC, but was let down all three times by 343. Why should we think it will go any differently this time around. How do we know it won’t just be another huge disappointment.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I hope that Infinite will return to what made Halo great, and won’t just be another Halo 5 except with an art style improvement, but regardless, I’m not holding my breath.
> > > > >
> > > > > regarding 5 I heard it had a massive rewrite during development cause Microsoft intervened
> > > >
> > > > yeah, wasn’t the writer for 4 and 5 also an employee dumped on 343 by Microsoft, thats what I heard
> > >
> > > I thought Halo 4’s writer was a different person?
> >
> > it was he left a year after 4 came out then reed came in for 5
>
> That’s what I thought. Halo 5’s story would have probably been better if the H4 writer was still their. H4’s story had some flaws, but it definitely had a good base.
most likely and also there was a rewrite during development
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> > > As much as I wanna be excited for this new Halo game, I’m also not sure I trust 343 to deliver on their promises anymore than they have in the past.
> > >
> > > Halo 5’s advertising led us to believe there was some huge rivalry with Chief and Locke that would be the main focus of the game, but in reality all we got was a 2 minute unplayable cutscene, and a campaign that only had chief in it about 15% of the time.
> > >
> > > Halo MCC promised the definitive experience of the old games ‘precisely the way you remembered it’ and ‘exactly as it shipped 10 years ago’ and ‘On Dedicated Servers,’
> > > but in reality what we got was an unbelievably broken, buggy unfinished mess with NO dedicated servers, which was one of the main reasons i bought the game. Only NOW are 343 apparently going to Actually fix it. FOUR -Yoinking!- YEARS LATER.
> > >
> > > I was super excited for Halo 4, 5 and the MCC, but was let down all three times by 343. Why should we think it will go any differently this time around. How do we know it won’t just be another huge disappointment.
> > >
> > > I hope that Infinite will return to what made Halo great, and won’t just be another Halo 5 except with an art style improvement, but regardless, I’m not holding my breath.
> >
> > regarding 5 I heard it had a massive rewrite during development cause Microsoft intervened
>
> yeah, wasn’t the writer for 4 and 5 also an employee dumped on 343 by Microsoft, thats what I heard
Where exactly did you hear that from? Both writers for Halo 4 and 5 were in-house employees for 343i until they both left (some say Reed was fired). The only thing i can think of that matches what you said is Eric Trautman, a Microsoft employee who worked with Bungie on Halo in the early days. He’s pretty much responsible for Halo having an EU in the first place.
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> > > > As much as I wanna be excited for this new Halo game, I’m also not sure I trust 343 to deliver on their promises anymore than they have in the past.
> > > >
> > > > Halo 5’s advertising led us to believe there was some huge rivalry with Chief and Locke that would be the main focus of the game, but in reality all we got was a 2 minute unplayable cutscene, and a campaign that only had chief in it about 15% of the time.
> > > >
> > > > Halo MCC promised the definitive experience of the old games ‘precisely the way you remembered it’ and ‘exactly as it shipped 10 years ago’ and ‘On Dedicated Servers,’
> > > > but in reality what we got was an unbelievably broken, buggy unfinished mess with NO dedicated servers, which was one of the main reasons i bought the game. Only NOW are 343 apparently going to Actually fix it. FOUR -Yoinking!- YEARS LATER.
> > > >
> > > > I was super excited for Halo 4, 5 and the MCC, but was let down all three times by 343. Why should we think it will go any differently this time around. How do we know it won’t just be another huge disappointment.
> > > >
> > > > I hope that Infinite will return to what made Halo great, and won’t just be another Halo 5 except with an art style improvement, but regardless, I’m not holding my breath.
> > >
> > > regarding 5 I heard it had a massive rewrite during development cause Microsoft intervened
> >
> > yeah, wasn’t the writer for 4 and 5 also an employee dumped on 343 by Microsoft, thats what I heard
>
> Where exactly did you hear that from? Both writers for Halo 4 and 5 were in-house employees for 343i until they both left (some say Reed was fired). The only thing i can think of that matches what you said is Eric Trautman, a Microsoft employee who worked with Bungie on Halo in the early days. He’s pretty much responsible for Halo having an EU in the first place.
check out latenightgaming on youtube he talked about it extensively
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> > > > > As much as I wanna be excited for this new Halo game, I’m also not sure I trust 343 to deliver on their promises anymore than they have in the past.
> > > > >
> > > > > Halo 5’s advertising led us to believe there was some huge rivalry with Chief and Locke that would be the main focus of the game, but in reality all we got was a 2 minute unplayable cutscene, and a campaign that only had chief in it about 15% of the time.
> > > > >
> > > > > Halo MCC promised the definitive experience of the old games ‘precisely the way you remembered it’ and ‘exactly as it shipped 10 years ago’ and ‘On Dedicated Servers,’
> > > > > but in reality what we got was an unbelievably broken, buggy unfinished mess with NO dedicated servers, which was one of the main reasons i bought the game. Only NOW are 343 apparently going to Actually fix it. FOUR -Yoinking!- YEARS LATER.
> > > > >
> > > > > I was super excited for Halo 4, 5 and the MCC, but was let down all three times by 343. Why should we think it will go any differently this time around. How do we know it won’t just be another huge disappointment.
> > > > >
> > > > > I hope that Infinite will return to what made Halo great, and won’t just be another Halo 5 except with an art style improvement, but regardless, I’m not holding my breath.
> > > >
> > > > regarding 5 I heard it had a massive rewrite during development cause Microsoft intervened
> > >
> > > yeah, wasn’t the writer for 4 and 5 also an employee dumped on 343 by Microsoft, thats what I heard
> >
> > Where exactly did you hear that from? Both writers for Halo 4 and 5 were in-house employees for 343i until they both left (some say Reed was fired). The only thing i can think of that matches what you said is Eric Trautman, a Microsoft employee who worked with Bungie on Halo in the early days. He’s pretty much responsible for Halo having an EU in the first place.
>
> check out latenightgaming on youtube he talked about it extensively
LNG’s information is sketchy at best, i wouldn’t trust it at all.
Brian Reed was lead writer on SoOps for Halo 4, after that lead writer for Halo 5. Some time after that he was no longer part of i343.
From what I’ve understood, Reed’s comics have been somewhat good, as long as you don’t care about continuity issues. However at times those can be really glaring anf hard to not care about. At times he supposidely also forget his own work in the same arc so there can be continuity issues there as well.
There are plenty of rumours circulating as to what actually happened.
OT: I hope marketing takes a step back now.
I doubt i343 and MS want a repeat of Halo 5
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> Brian Reed was lead writer on SoOps for Halo 4, after that lead writer for Halo 5. Some time after that he was no longer part of i343.
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> From what I’ve understood, Reed’s comics have been somewhat good, as long as you don’t care about continuity issues. However at times those can be really glaring anf hard to not care about. At times he supposidely also forget his own work in the same arc so there can be continuity issues there as well.
>
> There are plenty of rumours circulating as to what actually happened.
>
> OT: I hope marketing takes a step back now.
> I doubt i343 and MS want a repeat of Halo 5
Nah his comics were horrible. He pretty much killed off the didcat (contained) him in a comic. His writing was pretty bad in all of his projects with halo.
After H5, I really think that there is only room for improvement. It will be hard for 343i to make Infinite’s story worse than H5 (which had potential, but was poorly executed). And I really don’t think we can take much stock in the short and extremely vague announcement trailer.
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> > > > As much as I wanna be excited for this new Halo game, I’m also not sure I trust 343 to deliver on their promises anymore than they have in the past.
> > > >
> > > > Halo 5’s advertising led us to believe there was some huge rivalry with Chief and Locke that would be the main focus of the game, but in reality all we got was a 2 minute unplayable cutscene, and a campaign that only had chief in it about 15% of the time.
> > > >
> > > > Halo MCC promised the definitive experience of the old games ‘precisely the way you remembered it’ and ‘exactly as it shipped 10 years ago’ and ‘On Dedicated Servers,’
> > > > but in reality what we got was an unbelievably broken, buggy unfinished mess with NO dedicated servers, which was one of the main reasons i bought the game. Only NOW are 343 apparently going to Actually fix it. FOUR -Yoinking!- YEARS LATER.
> > > >
> > > > I was super excited for Halo 4, 5 and the MCC, but was let down all three times by 343. Why should we think it will go any differently this time around. How do we know it won’t just be another huge disappointment.
> > > >
> > > > I hope that Infinite will return to what made Halo great, and won’t just be another Halo 5 except with an art style improvement, but regardless, I’m not holding my breath.
> > >
> > > regarding 5 I heard it had a massive rewrite during development cause Microsoft intervened
> >
> > yeah, wasn’t the writer for 4 and 5 also an employee dumped on 343 by Microsoft, thats what I heard
>
> Where exactly did you hear that from? Both writers for Halo 4 and 5 were in-house employees for 343i until they both left (some say Reed was fired). The only thing i can think of that matches what you said is Eric Trautman, a Microsoft employee who worked with Bungie on Halo in the early days. He’s pretty much responsible for Halo having an EU in the first place.
don’t remember, just a small rumor I heard circulating, never was sure wether to believe it or not
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> > > > > > As much as I wanna be excited for this new Halo game, I’m also not sure I trust 343 to deliver on their promises anymore than they have in the past.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Halo 5’s advertising led us to believe there was some huge rivalry with Chief and Locke that would be the main focus of the game, but in reality all we got was a 2 minute unplayable cutscene, and a campaign that only had chief in it about 15% of the time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Halo MCC promised the definitive experience of the old games ‘precisely the way you remembered it’ and ‘exactly as it shipped 10 years ago’ and ‘On Dedicated Servers,’
> > > > > > but in reality what we got was an unbelievably broken, buggy unfinished mess with NO dedicated servers, which was one of the main reasons i bought the game. Only NOW are 343 apparently going to Actually fix it. FOUR -Yoinking!- YEARS LATER.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I was super excited for Halo 4, 5 and the MCC, but was let down all three times by 343. Why should we think it will go any differently this time around. How do we know it won’t just be another huge disappointment.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I hope that Infinite will return to what made Halo great, and won’t just be another Halo 5 except with an art style improvement, but regardless, I’m not holding my breath.
> > > > >
> > > > > regarding 5 I heard it had a massive rewrite during development cause Microsoft intervened
> > > >
> > > > yeah, wasn’t the writer for 4 and 5 also an employee dumped on 343 by Microsoft, thats what I heard
> > >
> > > Where exactly did you hear that from? Both writers for Halo 4 and 5 were in-house employees for 343i until they both left (some say Reed was fired). The only thing i can think of that matches what you said is Eric Trautman, a Microsoft employee who worked with Bungie on Halo in the early days. He’s pretty much responsible for Halo having an EU in the first place.
> >
> > check out latenightgaming on youtube he talked about it extensively
>
> LNG’s information is sketchy at best, i wouldn’t trust it at all.
yeah, I think thats where it heard it from, all I know it was something on youtube
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> > Brian Reed was lead writer on SoOps for Halo 4, after that lead writer for Halo 5. Some time after that he was no longer part of i343.
> >
> > From what I’ve understood, Reed’s comics have been somewhat good, as long as you don’t care about continuity issues. However at times those can be really glaring anf hard to not care about. At times he supposidely also forget his own work in the same arc so there can be continuity issues there as well.
> >
> > There are plenty of rumours circulating as to what actually happened.
> >
> > OT: I hope marketing takes a step back now.
> > I doubt i343 and MS want arepeat of Halo 5
>
> Nah his comics were horrible. He pretty much killed off the didcat (contained) him in a comic. His writing was pretty bad in all of his projects with halo.
I was talking about his comics overall, not just Halo projects.