So 3rd seasons here, I already had good ranks in the previous 2, so I decided to see what would happen with these ranks in varying degrees.
Arena- I actually tried. Had 2 in my party the entire qualifying games. Got paired against full teams most of the games, Champions in 2 of them. Good accuracy, not good win percentage, 12 games and I got Onyx.
Breakout- Barely tried, played more for fun and laughs. 0 wins…Platinum 5.
Team Slayer- Gets seriously stupid. I completely threw it. In qualifying games 3 and 4 I was paired against a team of champions (2 were single digits). 0 wins, 14.1% accuracy, 12 kills, 127 deaths, KDA of -11.0…and I get onyx…
This system is complete crap to be honest, there’s just no other way to put it. Maybe Im missing something, but it still wouldn’t change my mind if I am. 0.09 KD…these ranks no longer hold any meaning to me and its why I prefer the 1-50.
1-50 was perfect… You started at the bottom and worked yourself up to your skill.
On bad days you drop some levels to recover youself… This onyx matchmaking is horrible.
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> a huge factor is how well you do against higher ranks and your last seasons rank
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> if you had silver rank your quals will be against mainly silvers and golds
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> if you were diamond rank most of your quals will be against diamond/onyx
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> now it shows they are unranked but there is a formula/rank system behind the scenes we cant see where all of that takes place
I would agree with you, but he has a 0 percent win and a 0.1 KD in slayer for this season. There is zero reasoning for that. He should of at least dropped down to Diamond,
I played my hardest to get ranked and get bronxe 2. I had KDA’s averaging from 3 - 5 each match. Probably it was because I did terribly before and have a neg k/d due to my earlier noobines.
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> I played my hardest to get ranked and get bronxe 2. I had KDA’s averaging from 3 - 5 each match. Probably it was because I did terribly before and have a neg k/d due to my earlier noobines.
Like I said, I tried in arena too. I should’ve have shared that in arena, I was originally ranked diamond 6. Had to play twice more to get onyx.
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> > a huge factor is how well you do against higher ranks and your last seasons rank
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> > if you had silver rank your quals will be against mainly silvers and golds
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> > if you were diamond rank most of your quals will be against diamond/onyx
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> > now it shows they are unranked but there is a formula/rank system behind the scenes we cant see where all of that takes place
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> I would agree with you, but he has a 0 percent win and a 0.1 KD in slayer for this season. There is zero reasoning for that. He should of at least dropped down to Diamond,
granted i do think that is absurd
there are several other threads on this and i dont like repeating myself for those that wont join the mega threads
your previous rank should ONLY count in quals as a way to match you against those in the same ranks last season to see if you can still perform at that level
if you cant it should derank you to the appropriate tier
i maintain platinum ranks and derank in SWAT and Breakout on purpose to give me room to play a little more casual, however it ranked me gold this season so i am still not sure on how to tweak the system
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> 343 needs to bring back Halo 3’s ranking system, untouched. This new system is so bad.
so people can sell/buy level 50 accounts and exploit the system?
nah
i like the resets for seasons to prevent that
the only way to make this better is to either start everyone as a bronze or allow for deranking on the Division level (IE: diamond ranks down to plat 6 if you keep losing)
A common factor seems to be that those ranking in parties are having issues.
It seems that the lower performing members drag down the overall skill level of the opposing team and stop the better players from getting the games they need to move up to higher ranks. The good players are still caning it (getting good scores) but they aren’t beating players of their division or higher (and so aren’t climbing the ladder).
In the first season it was the opposite problem; the weaker players were being dragged up into divisions too high… and maybe 343i have somehow compensated too far in the other direction?
At least this way the good players will be able to work their way up to their proper level… which is better than the poor guys who are trapped in a division too high and have to spend the whole month being cannon fodder.
What happens when you were diamond last season, and you’re partied up with a silver, gold, and plat from the previous season for the 10 placement games? Discuss.
Yea it’s horrible. I lost most match in Swat and FFA and did not play well either when H5 first came out, both onyx ranking. I stopped playing Swat because I could not keep up at all and thanks to not be able to rank down I was stuck there. 1st season I get gold rank and then I am equal with everyone else but I won more games that time for qualifers.
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> Yea it’s horrible. I lost most match in Swat and FFA and did not play well either when H5 first came out, both onyx ranking. I stopped playing Swat because I could not keep up at all and thanks to not be able to rank down I was stuck there. 1st season I get gold rank and then I am equal with everyone else but I won more games that time for qualifers.
Everyone was ranking Onyx in preseason in those playlists. They fixed it for January.
I’m fairly certain I’m locked into gold / platinum initial placement forever just because of my preseason rankings. Had a 4.0 KDA in swat, 2 of the 4 games I lost we were down a team member, placed gold. I did worse January season and placed platinum.
Did all 10 games of Team Arena with a buddy who did marginally worse every game, he had something like a 1.0 KDA and we won 7/10. I had a 2.7 KDA and a crap ton of medals from CTF / Stronghold, actually went 6-0 with 2 flag captures on our very last game…I placed platinum 2, he placed platinum 5.
It’s done on how well you do against certain ranks, for instance pretty much everyone gets diamond for FFA because in every quali game your put with other diamonds or onyx ranked players. My mate only won 2 and came 5-6th in all the rest yet still ranked in diamond 5. Also, i agree 1-50 was way better.
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> It’s done on how well you do against certain ranks, for instance pretty much everyone gets diamond for FFA because in every quali game your put with other diamonds or onyx ranked players. My mate only won 2 and came 5-6th in all the rest yet still ranked in diamond 5. Also, i agree 1-50 was way better.
welll, this isn’t necessarily true, it leads credence to the idea that your past ranking places a huge role (maybe like an mmr system in wow that doesn’t reset). how does the game determine what ranks you are playing if everyone in your 10 games isn’t ranked yet?
I hate how they rank you on how your team does… It should be how you did in the match. I find myself in a game most times where a guy quits at the very beginning and in reasult my team loses and it drops me in rank or places me in a lower rank than i should be in (qualifying matches). This results in me absolutly wrecking people in games and making the gameplay stale. Also i find it very common place to be on a team full of randoms facing an organized team.