Experience of returning to Halo 4. Wow!

So, the subject title gives a little insight to where I have been, add on the revision for exams, going outside into the real world and other things, I have not played Halo 4 for some time, but in all of that I am actually coming back to it.

It started a couple of days a go where my girlfriend (going through exams too; converted into a big Halo fan but she doesn’t have an Xbox) where she was talking about Halo 4, and my opinion at the time was all the negatives: short campaign, badly tuned weapons, unfair matchmaking, -and all the other problems. To draw her off Halo 4. I hated* Halo 4. Past tense. Things have changed. I decided to go onto Halo 4 to have One game to go see how the game was doing, and so I could brag on how I had an Xbox 360 and she didn’t… And wow!

The difference was pretty noticeable. AR and BR have been buffed (always wanted this) and it was a game with a brand new forged map. I got stuck into it and I came out with a 5.3 K/D. Results here

What a game! Halo 4 has been changed so much! It actually is quite fun, like the fun I had back on launch! I must give Chaos Vigorous #November 6th 2012 - some slack as this loadout is over a year old and still gives me the victories: AR + BR, Jetpack and ammo…thing. 2 Frags.

Yeah! The game was fast paced and I was able to jetpack all over. I had so much fun, and a lot of my opinions I had on Halo 4 have changed SO MUCH.

A couple days after this match, I went into some more games where I forked out K/D’s like: 35/12 - 33/4 - 31/4 - 20/8 - a lot of brilliant K/D’s, all you can see on my Service record page linked above. Notice my K/D before was like… 1.5

I’m not sure what has happened, maybe a netcode change or a nerf to the DMR, but the game is now fun for me and you can expect me in game A LOT MORE. And if you are in game also, do add me. GT: Chaos Vigorous. I’ll be happy to play with you, regardless of skill. Time to bring the fun back!

But other than that little life story, to give this post some purpose, I should ask:

Have you returned from Halo 4 after a long time of not playing it? Have you seen any difference to how the game plays out now? Or have you been playing regardless and seen the changes I myself have felt. And what is your experience now with Halo 4 compared to… a year a go.

Man, The changes between launch and now! :slight_smile:

I’m getting back into it after a long hiatus. The fixes are so good. A little more nudging in whichever game is released next will return Halo to it’s former glory.

Sorry to be the bad guy, but your experience is completely based on bias.
=/
Don’t get me wrong, if you have fun playing H4, that’s all that matters, and that’s great!
d(^_^)

But let me explain why you are having fun now, and why others might not share that euphorism:

  1. Loadout:
    You say your loadout was AR/BR with Ammo pre-patch? No wonder you didn’t have fun, because you needed a DMR back then. Being easily killed by DMRs with your underpowered weapons must have been frustrating.
    More over, the Ammo perk was probably not that useful, as I imagine you didn’t run into BRs and ARs too much to stock up above the usual ammo limit and you probably died regularly and spawned with fresh weapons. Now that you actually survive longer, ammo becomes and issue, and the perk helps you. Also, you see BRs often and can therefore always fill up to maximum.

  2. K/D
    Dude, even Duck Hunt is fun when you’re performing well. Get matched against more potent players with terrible ones in your team. If you’re still having fun then, I congratulate you! Honestly!

  3. One game
    Yeah, if it’s just one game you played, or three, after a long time, you surely feel excited. Keep playing for hours a day, and all the little flaws, that you overlook now, become more and more prominent, especially in the higher levels.

I know, I sound really like a joy-killer. Don’t misunderstand, I kinda like the game (it’s no H3, though) and I’m happy to hear you’re having fun. Just felt the need to tell you your experience will probably change with time. Just saying, you know?

I have noticed some people who come baxk, play and have lots of fun.

I recently returned to Halo 4 as well, always enjoyed it for what it is: Call of Halo. I still feel Halo 3 was the last true Halo (no loadouts). That said, I did find DMR spam annoying and a waist of the other weapons.

Since returning I am finding the game to be seriously fun. My old BR skills are back to being important, and I don’t get frustraited by DMR spam. Mind you, I still use the DMR when it is appropriate, but it doesn’t feel like the end all be all weapon (ala Halo 2 BR). I have only played a few Halo 4 games, primarily because I still find it a more enjoyable experiece when I play with people I know. In the games I have though, I don’t always have blow out games. I even had a few games where I didn’t actually do very well, but still had fun.

As others have said here, ultimately that is all that matters: having fun. So cudos to 343 for any changes made in the past (almost) year since I let my Live expire!

The CSR reset is probably the reason why you had so many godly games after your hiatus.

> I recently returned to Halo 4 as well, always enjoyed it for what it is: Call of Halo.

No. Please. Just don’t.

> Sorry to be the bad guy, but your experience is completely based on bias.
> =/
> Don’t get me wrong, if you have fun playing H4, that’s all that matters, and that’s great!
> d(^_^)
>
> But let me explain why you are having fun now, and why others might not share that euphorism:
>
> 1. Loadout:
> You say your loadout was AR/BR with Ammo pre-patch? No wonder you didn’t have fun, because you needed a DMR back then. Being easily killed by DMRs with your underpowered weapons must have been frustrating.
>
> 2. K/D
> Dude, even Duck Hunt is fun when you’re performing well. Get matched against more potent players with terrible ones in your team. If you’re still having fun then, I congratulate you! Honestly!
>
> 3. One game
> Yeah, if it’s just one game you played, or three, after a long time, you surely feel excited. Keep playing for hours a day, and all the little flaws, that you overlook now, become more and more prominent, especially in the higher levels.
>
> I know, I sound really like a joy-killer. Don’t misunderstand, I kinda like the game (it’s no H3, though) and I’m happy to hear you’re having fun. Just felt the need to tell you your experience will probably change with time. Just saying, you know?

Oh no! It’s fine. I don’t see you as the bad guy, you’ve actually found a lot of the flaws of my topic that I forgot to mention (so I could keep it a smaller topic than it would have been) but I’ll write replies to your points here:

  1. Loadout
    Pre-patch… not sure when that was to be honest, but a long time a go I didn’t use this loadout due to the DMR problem. I had the loadout there because I knew how to work it but my main loadout at the time was: DMR + Plasma pistol, 2 plasma, the shield thingy and the ammo thingy. I got frustrated with the fact that the DMR was OP but I didn’t have fustration with fighting against people with DMR because well… I used it too.

  2. Yeah… Have a look at this game: Grr. - Started off as a 4 v 1 for the first… 10 seconds because everyone quit before the game started. The 1 was a level 30. When the game started, eventually the game filled up and me and the other 3 were Vs 4xlevel 130’s. It was one of the most unfair games I have ever had to date. It wasn’t that our team was bad, it was that their team was ever so pro it was unreal. I can carry a team easily but that game was torture.

And besides, I’ve had more good games vs bad games currently so I am still having fun, even if I lose, because even if I lose, I still come out with a better k/d than most if their team. :3

  1. Yeah… Something else I didn’t mention, but it was quite a past tense post. I’ve been playing quite a lot, each day, for a couple of hours at a time. I’ve gotten use to the long-day gaming as I used to be on Xbox from 12pm all the way through to 3am.

And to your paragraph at the end, I agree. It isn’t Halo 3 though, and I do miss playing the game (I still play it sometimes) and true, my experience will change in time as that’s how games work.

:smiley:

I see, then it’s all good!
(^_^)

Ah yes, the old OP DMR… I wonder why people were so upset about it. Everyone spawned with it, and since it could easily beat power weapons, the personal ordnance problem was less influential back then, as far as I remember. There will always be one utility weapon in any Halo game that proves better than the others… Instead of DMR spam, we now have a BR spam. Sure, you don’t get cross-mapped now after respawning, and must close in. But on the other hand, people in the open without cover are now punished less.
I think we just traded one villain for another. But overall I think it was a good weapon tuning, I just don’t understand all the DMR hate (which, ironically, often comes from the present BR abusers, ahem! ^_- )

The one single point that keeps me preferring H4 over H3 is hitscan. It makes everything so much fairer! The whole rest of the game is very debatable, but hitscan compensates that.
I think that’s kinda the core of Halo, and that’S what 343 forgot: Halo always had the same simple flow - guns, grenades, melee - and it worked. Every new Halo game offered minimal new features, and that was sufficient, because the core was Halo. I don’t buy a Coke because I want to be surprised by its new onion flavor! I buy a Coke, because I know how it tastes and I know I like the taste! 343 must really throw out all the modern rubbish (I know it’s hard for a developer to trash his ideas and work, but life isn’t a pony farm!) and stick with classic Halo and just smooth the edges and enhance them, not build a new wall!

I have spoken!
>=D

I too have fun playing Halo 4 now. To be honest, I was never a big fan of Reach’s multiplayer but when Halo 4 first came out I was probably playing Reach a bit more than Halo 4; I at least stood a chance with Reach. I’m a pretty average player in terms of skill, and Halo 4 at launch was just insufferable.

But now, I barely touch Reach’s multiplayer. I usually play Halo 4 or Halo 3.

I think the main reason I like Halo 4 so much is that I’m not much for online competitive gaming. I can only handle so much of playing match after match of just bouncing around shooting other Spartans in the face before the monotony sets in. Maybe between 3-7 matches a couple days a week and I’m good. I’m more at home campaigning while experimenting with Skull combinations and different difficulty levels and trying new approaches and weapon combinations. That’s where I put in the hours. So yeah, I’m one of the few Spartan Ops fans, but at heart I’m a campaign guy. Hell, I’ve been playing Halo 2 all morning.

Well the CSR reset does explain the mismatched games, and I figured that would settle eventually.

Also an addendum to my previous comment, “Call of Halo”, I meant no offense. It’s an attempt at a humorous opinion and not necessarily meant as an insult. Gladly no one went off the rails to debate load outs, as that was never the intention. That is all on this topic.

That being said I don’t know that I agree that the BR is a problem now. It still does extremely well at mid-range when controled, spaming will lose to controlled BR shots most of the time. At mid-close it’s still pretty good, though I feel losing its edge to the AR and other automatic weapons. Up close though you’d better either weaken before the close fight, or finish with a melee, and if the other guy has a CQC weapon, forget it. Incidentally, mid-close and close are where you are less likely to be penalized for spam. Last, at mid-long the BR can annoy other players, but most of the maps allow escape before death. No, at mid-long DMR and Lightrifle are still better bets. My main caveat is that most of my battles occur in that mid to mid-close range, so if that holds true for most then yea the BR and its kin are going to feel abused I suppose.

So all in all a good balance since the update. That balance mixed with the many things I think Halo 4 was already doing well makes it my go to social game.

I’ve been playing since launch, and it’s been cool to watch all the match making updates slightly change the game and make it so much better than when it was at launch. At launch halo 4 was pretty much in its beta stage, now it’s a finished game (not the perfect halo game by a long shot, but it’s still fun to play)

Glad you hear you are back and enjoying Halo 4! I don’t play much matchmaking, but I can recognize there has been a considerable amount of effort put in since launch to make the game a lot more enjoyable. Some by devs, some by others.

However you play, it makes the game a better when more people are around to play.

I haven’t played Halo 4 in 2014, but after the reveal of Halo 5 Guardians I wanted to go onto it and have a couple of games. So today, I went on Halo 4, and I have to agree with you, this game is fantastic again. There is still them one or two bugs still here and there but they ain’t really gameplay affecting to me. They have done so much to this game since I last played it and its all be for the good. The multiplayer feels right, and balanced. Now I can actually take out a BR user with a Suppressor xD They have fixed the Halo 4 server so that there is very little lag, if there is any. The new maps and gamemodes a beautiful and are fun. My first time back on Halo 4 in 2014 and I already got a perfection and completed Expert Commendation for it, so I think after a couple of hours I’m back with it :slight_smile: I even noticed that they have improved kill cams and the layout and design of them. Whatever your doing 343, keep it up and continue it. Cudo’s 343

I kinda wish I took a brief Hiatus, to get that fresh feeling you’re having, I’ve been playing since the beginning so all the changes sorta blurred between eachother.

I played for a bit after the weapon tuning went live, but there were still massive problems, especially lag. Then, after playing Ricochet at a friends house,we both bought the Champions Bundle and played for a straight month or so, I even made a topic about it here. Then I sort of just stopped, never had the itch to play Halo 4, at least over 3 or Reach.

Just this month though my friend and I have been getting back into this game hard,we just watch comp play and stuff and we got pumped up. Funny thing, it was actually the early morning of the Halo 5: Guardians announcement that we went on a Halo video binge. 90% of the time I’m actually enjoying myself playing online and I have had a lot more satisfying challenges. Now I am actually excited for Halo 5, up until now I had kind of given up hope of being hopeful.

Halo 4 is a lot of fun with friends. If I’m looking to have some casual fun it’s great.

While Halo 4 is not my favorite I never did stop playing it. I do like the changes the game has had since it’s release but it was too little too late unfortunately. I still play all the Halos that are currently online still (Halo 3, Reach, ODST, and 4) and would never stop.

In a way I still play games like Reach and 4 just simply out of respect for all the years I’ve been playing Halo in general. I like to keep up to date with how multiplayer across all the Halos are doing. In the end though my enjoyment is with Halo 3 the most. As long as that game is still online I will keep on playing and getting online.