Experience of play degrading by the day

Games Other Halo
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Hello

First and foremost, I am not trying to generate hate, I am not trying to complain or moan, I want only to present a poplar opinion generating in the halo community as well as a very problematic issue I am finding.

Over the past 4 days, I have experienced less than favourable search times. No scratch that, I’ve had yoinking horrendous search times, with no games being found for a full hour at 10 PM New Zealand Standard Time. I mean no games as in no games in Warzone, Warzone Assault, Big Team Battle and Oddball. I can find games in infection, and I assume Heroic Warzone FF but I assume that’s because they abide by more ‘free-for-all’ systems of matchmaking. This is entirely unacceptable, as we KNOW AND CAN SEE other teams searching, whom find games, while we cannot find anything. I assume this is due to a bug in the mmr but regardless, it must be acknowledged at least so that we can stop searching for our own solutions.

As well as these abysmal match times, I am finding more and more and more that my warzone, and arena games are incredibly unbalanced; not just by giving the opposing team a decent team, but by giving me low level, low skill, and low effiacy (as in they quit out rather quickly).

This system of balancing teams has never agitated players like me before halo 5, but the thing is, Halo 5 is a game built to be competitive, and eliminate random factors. As skilled as I am (I’m not, I’m actually -Yoink!--fart at this game), but as skilled as I am, and as skilled as my 6 man team is in Warzone, we cannot carry teammates where the opposing team never even gives them the chance to help the team. Especially in warzone, the team that wins, achieves that only by the random chance of having decent teammates, while concurrently the enemy gets less than desirable teammates. In all cases, there is stigma associated with ‘new players’, where they are intensely hated, reported, sent hate mail, and are not respected at all.

In the interest of perpetuating Halo 5 along a relatively healthy trajectory, it may be of assistance to assuage such an issue of ‘noob hate stigma’ by drastically altering the current warzone playlist.

  • Delete the Warzone Assault playlist, and merge the gamemodes/maps with current warzone (this will be social warzone
  • Create a ‘Ranked Warzone’ playlist with champs, diamonds, onyxes etc…
  • Make it so that Bronzes through to Platinum can search in 12 mans, but anybody in diamond and above cannot search with more than 6 (this will balance out the sweatiness)
  • Reduce the influence of MMR in social warzone, but jack it right up for ranked warzone so it becomes consistently a fat man trying to climb a rope (i.e. sweat pooling into my shoes, and all over the floor)

If this is implemented, it would allow ‘new players’ to play both ranked and unranked for a social experience, and play people their own level consistently, and it would let sweats find sweats.

Lastly, please show population numbers for warzone :slight_smile: it would really help to know if decent amounts of people are searching so I can know if it is worth it

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Try a hard reset of the Xbox. Also what search preferance are you using. Being new Zealand you will probably need to use expanded.

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I practically solo q Warzone and I’ve noticed it recently becoming very imbalanced. I’m alright at the game, I have a decent shot, but I can’t out play 6 man stacks that coordinate and communicate. I have nothing against 6 stacks, but I’ve been playing some sweats where my team seems to have no coordination and below average aim/skill.

It’s been frustrating this past week or two trying to play a fair and balanced game of warzone.

Also experiencing some weird lag, especially when someone quits/joins and even randomly.

Dividing the Warzone community into Social and Ranked seems like a good idea, but I don’t know if 343 is going to push many more ‘massive’ changes in Halo 5, unfortunately.

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good lord don’t test me please. I am rank 151, I didn’t get here from playing balanced. I haven’t had consistent balanced games since 2016 June, I always search expanded.

Also no, this happened 4 nights in a row, it isn’t anything to do with the xbox console, every player we had in our team experienced it until somebody solo-searched and found a game (we also solo searched but didn’t match him).

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> It’s been frustrating this past week or two trying to play a fair and balanced game of warzone.
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> Also experiencing some weird lag, especially when someone quits/joins and even randomly.
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> Dividing the Warzone community into Social and Ranked seems like a good idea, but I don’t know if 343 is going to push many more ‘massive’ changes in Halo 5, unfortunately.

Yea it is getting more frustrating as compared to irritating, I’m struggling to separate genuine anger from the novelty of the fact that the game is making me lose because I win usually.

Yea because people keep quitting and joining, it makes the screen freezes so much more exaggerated and jagged.

The chances of 343 changing the playlist are equivalent to that of New Zealand/ Australia ever getting love from 343 lol, it’s not gonna happen. But I think there must be some way 343 could use the databases on halotracker to make a pseudo ranking system, and at least find a way for solo players in warzone to not constantly get beaten up by teams of more skilled players. It’s an issue that must stop to ensure people actually don’t uninstall halo.

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I live in America and the only playlist I’ve ever had an issue with is Warzone Assault. Sometimes it’ll say players couldn’t be found after about five minutes forcing me to start a new search. I can find a match in any other playlist in mere seconds. So it could be a bug or just that the population of the playlists you’re in are too low for your location. The latter could potentially be fixed by changing your search preferences.

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I guess I’m the odd one out when it comes to this. The off chance I play warzone I like playing with low level players the ones that aren’t “skilled”. Gives me a challenge that most games in halo don’t since it’s usually one sided. Usually I do have some intense close games but those are becoming rare in halo 5. But back to warzone idk I find it fun to fight against those teams because imo I’m relatively good at halo better than the average player at least. So I find it amusing to run in their objectives and harass them and make my presence known. Do I win every one of these matches no but I have fun

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Ranked Warzone - Warzone / Warzone Assault variants with no player cap
Social Warzone - Warzone / Warzone Assault / Warzone Turbo variants with 6 man player cap

That would be the best thing they could do.

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They just can’t add 2 new WZ playlists… it will destroy the population base in each playlist and make the MM even less balanced, and wait times longer.

Also, I’m on the East coast of USA, and I can find matches in WZ and WZA most of the busy times of day. Please don’t delete WZA, I love that playlist!

But Josh Menke has been talking about potentially combining social and ranked, and allowing people to earn ranks in playlists like WZ. That would make 6-man more viable cause you’d actually be fighting for a rank, and wouldn’t lose much CSR if you got total noobs on your team against a good squad and had no chance of winning. He also suggested that the recent updates make it less likely you’ll get total potatoes on your team in WZ, if you’re a high-skill team-of-6, because they’re enforcing tighter matchmaking limits in terms of skill gaps.

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a. No more waiting an hour for nothing. Give it five minutes tops, then move on to something else. No player count needed. If you can’t match after five minutes then you know the count is low whether you can see the actual number or not.

b. The skill imbalances are a function 343 having virtually abandoned skill restrictions in non-ranked game modes. Merging WZ and WZA would help, but dividing it up again between ranked and unranked would not.

c. Even if they made a ranked WZ it would do absolutely zero good because of the ability of any player to have an almost unlimited number of smurf profiles with which to befuddle the ranking system. Arena is already hobbled by this and can’t imagine that WZ would be any different.

d. The best you could hope for would be if 343 implemented a handicap for people playing in fireteams. They’ve talked about it, but I don’t know what’s come of it, or if anything ever will. Maybe it wouldn’t even matter now that skill restrictions are so loose as to not even matter?

Sorry to bring you down but I just don’t see any good news for you on this one.

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Well dear god can 343 at least give a gold pack to the best players in each game? Or more XP? Give us a reason to actually play the sweaty and difficult games, because there’s absolute no reason to not quit out given the current state of warzone in Halo 5