EXP earning is way too slow

Yeah it’s really really slow, I feel like the time it takes to progress should be halved, if not more than that. Part of the problem is also the specific daily challenges, with no performance-based or per match XP

I think the challenge system itself would be great as a way to give out optional, bonus exp. Heck, they could even award special cosmetics to challenges if they wanted. The problem is it’s the only way to get exp and it actively hurts the game. Individual performance doesn’t matter anymore, medals don’t matter anymore, whether you win or lose doesn’t even matter. All that matters is if you complete a list of arbitrary tasks.

What’s even worse is that it’s RNG based. A certain challenge might want you to play on a map that just refuses to show up in rotation. Or it might require getting kills with a weapon that you just can’t get your hands on because everyone else keeps grabbing it first. Then there’s the fact that it’s just forcing people to play in ways they might not want to. Personally I’ve never been a fan of CTF in any game, but now I’m forced to play it.

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I actually liked the progression system quite a bit. I get frustrated with games like call of duty/destiny where you can reach max rank in one day if you wanted too. Halo infinite’s progression reminds me a bit of reaches system, in reach when you reached a new rank (especially the higher ranks) I remember feeling really accomplished and excited. that may just be me though.

You said Reach, and I already agree.

You’re also right about the leveling up too fast part. I encourage you to give the game and battle pass progression a try. Don’t buy the pass yet, just get a feel for the progression system, then decide with your wallet later. It’ll give you a better sense of what everyone is up in arms about.

Also, no one is too old or too young for spartan fashion :rofl:

THANK. YOU!

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!

Finally someone gets it.

Halo going F2P isn’t inherently bad, but using the F2P excuse to psychologically manipulate players (kids specifically) is wrong for so many reasons. 343 could have simply paywalled the armors and once a player paid for the BP, they can just unlock armor at their leisure. In stead 343 hands you the BP, but still grips it with one hand to remind you that you don’t really own it.

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I hate the exp system, 70% of the battlepass is paid for, but even if you pay the 10$ it will still take ten hours just to get a couple levels in the battlepass. Most of the free stuff is just challenge swaps… if you don’t want to Pay to Play then good luck actually unlocking anything.

Also some challenges are easier for some people to complete than others. For instance an newer player may find using the BR too hard, but now they’re stuck with that task, meanwhile another player may breeze through that challenge.

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I really hope they do a CoD system. per kill XP and different XP’s for different type of kills and objectives completed, holding a point, taking a point, capturing/returning flags, everything should have XP and different values tied to them. needs more numbers and feeling of scoring.

Well. I agree. The EXP challenmges also don’t seem to work. I had to kill three people with the pulse carbine, actually killed five with it and got no XP. I had do destroy a Ghost, did it, no XP. I had to kill a Spartan with the Shade-turret. Dit it, no XP. All weekly challenges. That’s pretty frustrating. I also have to complete three stockpile games. I already played two but it only counted one. I don’t have to win. And no, I didn’t leave.

The game is great so far but the progession is crap and full of bugs, as challenges don’t seem to work. Not all at least.

I made a halo waypoint account just to upvote this thread. Please fix.

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I agree, the system is super broken and needs to be fixed ASAP. I would hate for this game and it’s hyped community to just dwindle away. 343 can’t afford to do that with so much riding on this game. They have already said on Twitter that changes are getting looked into, I just hope they had a Plan B already planned for this worst case scenario.

Alot of people complained about this very issue in the Technical Flights and nothing was done. I’m one of those and it’s sad to see that 343 didn’t listen to most of the community. Only having one way (completing challenges) to progress or earn any exp is no way it should be. You don’t even get exp if you don’t have a specific challenge to do in your current game. There is 0 exp incentive for winning games/finishing matches/playing the objective, it’s entirely depending on “I have to do this very specific thing to earn a tiny bit of exp”

They could easily add exp bonuses or grant portions of exp for doing previously mentioned actions. I mean currently, is there any point to staying in a match once you have your challenges done? Not at all.

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I agree with this assessment.

BIG difference was that in Reach, completing games (and in particular doing well) gave you something.

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It’s crazy where they can go from MCC. In my opinion one of the better progression systems we have seen in a while to this.

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I hope they actually listen…

While it’s good that they don’t expire. I believe they previously mentioned you can’t work on more than one battle pass at a time. So when Season 2 comes, you then have to decide which pass you want to work on. Cant grind both at same time

@KaijuCorpse6665 I mean, yeah, that makes perfect sense.
Edit: At least it does to me. I’m sure someone will think me unreasonable for thinking this way.

With Unyshek’s recent tweet, it’s good to see that this is being closely and proactively addressed. And especially that we’re being granted the Sigil Mark VII visor for free, provided we log in from November 23rd - 30th.

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@TheKiltdHeathen Yes. Also interesting to see this thread go from a collective raging fire monster to ghost town with a single tweet.

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