Why all the hate? I just asked a simple question.
Shows what these forums are all about…
Hate with no real answers!
> > Using Thruster Pack and staying out of vehicles makes the map a challenge.
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> > It’s Valhalla that I quit out of all the time, despite the fact that I’m good for a perfection if I can obtain both snipers that spawn in base in the first 130 seconds.
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> > Ragnarok is just -Yoinking!- boring. It’s all Camo/DMR.
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> Cool… But why do people hate on Exile? … even though it’s so popular?
I hate it, it’s probably the most ridiculously unbalanced maps I’ve seen in a while.
People hate it because:
1: It’s being picked all the time (same with Ragnarok)
2: Balance on the map is unfair, because of the placement of vehicles. One team gets a Gauss Hog, the other doesn’t, but can get to the Scorpion easier. Only vehicle that is fairly placed is the Banshee.
I do like the map however. I simply don’t run for the vehicles at the start of the game. Nope, grab the SAW and head off into the center base. That Scorpion will be dealt with in a few minutes and the Gauss Hog mostly gets destroyed in its first run around the map (thanks to the Scorpion).
But that doesn’t mean the Scorpion should be put somewhere more centered, and the Gauss Hog needs to go (or place a 2nd on the other base and remove the Scorpion)
Exile is one of my favorite maps a long with one in which I can’t remember XD
Either way if a map pops up that’s your weakness right? You should always battle if you like it or not. I don’t like Valhalla any more as now its a simple case of power weapons galore and holding the hill.
Smart players dont drive the gauss around the map… Me and my mates can stay alive in the original gauss for the entire match and dominate enemy team with it.
Exile is a great map, it just gets voted too often and the vehicle placements are unbalanced in BT slayer.
(I love dominion on Exile.)
Exile has become the Hemmorage of H4, everyone and their uncle votes for it. I loathe this map purely because it’s all I ever play on. I’ve taken to calling BTB Exile Team Battle. Get rid of the Gauss and this map wouldn’t be nearly as popular with randoms as it is now. They all want to be Blue Team (it would also be interesting if we could see which team we were on before the map gets picked, like Halo games of old, I doubt Red Team would vote for Exile as much).
Exile needs balance. The fact that the Blues always start with a Gauss while the Reds are fighting for the Banshee/Scorpion. Immediately, Blue Team starts with the advantage.
I like this map but I hate the balance issues with it and how many times it’s chosen, along with Ragnarok/Valhalla.
The map only is bad if your the Red team, because of that OP Gauss Hog. Also, the tank is in a terrible spot where Blue team can get it.
> That is what I have read.
> Why does nearly everyone vote for it in BTB… If it sucks?
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> Just an example to show how few of the of Halo 4 players actually log on to the Waypoint forums.
I like it 
Great for sniping!
> The map only is bad if your the Red team, because of that OP Gauss Hog. Also, the tank is in a terrible spot where Blue team can get it.
I usually go for banshee.
Can’t tell you how many times I’ve been Red Team, flying around, only to realize there is both a Gauss Hog and Scorpion shooting at me.
The Gauss Hog needs to be removed and replaced, or the Scorpion needs to become a Gauss Hog for Red Team.
In my experience, I originally LOVED Exile and still do to an extent. It’s just that, as others have stated, the map is terribly unbalanced. The Gauss hog to me is the elephant in the room.
Essentially what happens when I play is, red and blue go for Scorpion, blue in a mongoose and red just runs to it, another blue picks up rockets, and even if red side gets the scorpion, it’s blasted to Hell in an instant by the blue’s rocket launcher.
Then you have the almighty Gauss-hog. I don’t like the vehicle in the first place, but what makes it worse is the maps design. It’s hardly worth it for me to change my loadout JUST so I can go after the gauss with a plasma pistol and plasma nades, since for me, I am not the best aim for one, and for another, I have little experience with plasma pistol. Usually I might get gauss sniped 2-3 times in a match at most because I try not to let it touch me. So, as someone who wants nothing to do with vehicles unless I’m hijacking a ghost or skyjacking, combined with how little I get killed by a gauss, it’s just not worth it to me to go after it.
Let’s not forget about how Exile is just a giant freaking loop with one side completely obscured by cover in the middle of the map, making that window you have to PP a gauss even smaller. If you try EMPing from the middle areas of the map, it’s easy to miss or just get gauss-sniped before it even matters. Even IF you get the EMP, the gauss will immediately put its crosshairs on you and screw you. If you try PPing it from, let’s say, directly behind it as it drives away, you have also a huge chance of getting owned before anything can be done.
And forget trying to call any teammates to shoot up the hog with you.
Oh, and one thing I noticed that bothers me also. This may be wrong but I’m pretty sure there’s more cover on the front of the gunner than on a standard hog. I can snipe a vanilla hog gunner down pretty well, but a gauss gunner? Doesn’t happen. Not from the front. I have to take the back. Whether its coincidence or lag that’s prevented me from sniping the front I can’t say for sure, but it certainly appears to have more cover.
Let’s also consider how, in pretty much every Exile game I get into, the blue team wins and there’s some smug loser sitting at the top of the leader board with 22-40 gauss cannon kills. At most 5 deaths.
The vehicle is, in my opinion, OP, at least on Exile. And combined with the sheer number of times it’s picked, it becomes a huge chore to find motivation to play on again and again. That is why I personally dislike Exile now.
I’ve played Exile a lot, and it is a great map for Dominion.
But whether Im on the Red or Blue team the only thing that matters is the quality of who I am playing with. If someone in the blue team in the GH and a driver gets in and races off with it, usually the hog is exterminated pretty quick, but if you have some savvy players they dont EVER push the hog past either bridge and can get kills galore. I did this as a driver yesterday of it and the guy shooting got top place, I got about 20 assists (and maxed out my achievement :D).
The hog should be placed on the other side of the base not right there immediately mind. Or maybe it should only spawn after a few minutes (and the tank and banshee).
I’ve won games on there as Red or Blue, people say Blue is better, maybe slightly but it doesn’t seem to matter in the games I’ve played in to any real extent. Thats all I can go on, cant comment on the games other have had on it.
With good teamwork,
The gauss canon and tank can be neutralized making this a great map.
It has CQC combat in the caves
It has open combat in the area to the left of Blue
I love it
The map is fine damn get it in your head its how 343 puts the vehicles on the map !
Exile and Ragnarok are by far the most popular maps in the BTB playlist, on these forums though, they are the least popular.
This dynamic has played out so many times its astounding.
Exile is trash in btb. It’s an unbalanced map that has lost its sine very quickly after it being voted so much. After playing it the majority of the time, I have come to dislike more and more.
Ragnarok is voted out nostalgia. It’s just a boring map that becomes a stand still too many times. Dmr across the bases and hope to get a sniper weapon or laser in Ordnance… Half the time, everyone are hiding behind rocks. The mantis gets wrecked easily unless you have cover and a good team (still boring with full party)…
I can’t say I like any of the btb maps. They aren’t memorable or special. They flow like -Yoink-. Infinity makes everything worse. Big part of why I avoid btb is because of the gameplay.
Exile does suck, it just sucks less than Meltdown, Longbow, Vortex, and all of the Crimson maps. There is probably one big map left to go in the Castle map pack, and considering 343’s big map batting average, I bet the big map in castle will also suck worse than Exile.
I’ve taken my big team battle business back to Halo: Reach. (Halo 3 has some great big maps, but you need to buy all of the DLC to play the big team battle playlist).
Personally I just find Exile to be a scramble for the power vehicles, then once those are destroy it’s just a cluster -Yoink!- of everyone scrambling to cover UNTILL the power vehicles respawn, taking shots at one-another as the opprotunity arises (at this point those that HAD the vehicles prior to them being destroyed likely having ordinance).
Also this is completely un-based on any facts; But does anyone else seem to notice the binary rifle and beam rifle get into ordinance drops ALOT on exile?
Exile sucks if you are red team. I quit if I spawn red. I have over 20 perfections with the banshee when spawning blue team though. Blue will beat red to the banshee every time if both are trying for it. Plus blue gets gauss. Red teams tank is worthless if you have a competent gauss & banshee.