Yes but it’s pretty much unanimously agreed upon that both H4 Spartan Ops and the entirety of Halo 5’s campaign was disappointing.
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I agree wholeheartedly
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soo… what you’re saying is that if there is no custom spartans in the campaign, 343 can eat those words of theirs?
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Yes, but being able to play as your Spartan, and haiving different characters to select in 5’s coop wasn’t the issue itself.
Both had a lackluster story. And the issue with 5 was that the characters you had to choose from, with the exceptions of Master Chief and Buck, sucked. (Blue Team is awesome in Lore but were extremely underwhelming in 5)
I disagree. I
On the Spartan ops that is. I thought ops would’ve been AMAZINGLY recieved if a separate fire fight would’ve dropped beside it. Objective based halo PvE matches were awesome
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Chief is not a Mary Sue, as far as the extended fiction goes. He earned his status. I do agree however that having a story about the quarterback, prom king, top cop, or best of the best saving the universe every single time again and again and …
It does get old. I think that’s why Reach and ODST have a special place for fans. Their not underdog stories per say. More what the rest of what the UNSC goes through. Whether by the skin of their teeth or by making sacifices.
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This. Honestly still waiting for a client side option to play as our custom MP armors for MCC Halo 3. They’ve already enabled weapon skins for MCC campaign afterall.
In fact, there are already mods which apply this to the H3 campaign on MCC, of course only in single player mode or else Easy Anti Cheat will bust your account.
still holding out hope they add firefight eventually, its literally one of my favorite things to play on halo after custom games
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Honestly i want blue team back and used for story stuff.
Our own spartans in base defense and open world hyjinks and perhaps a spartan ops.
I want a firefight evolved. I want an open world segment that I can complete with up to 8 players either in a private lobby or in a match made setting. We haven’t had a personal firefight in years.
But tbh if they put AI in forge (not bots but banished) then I doubt there will be a time Im not building story and engagement maps for us and our friends. And by that I mean ALL OF US HERE IN HALO.
I want to talk with known forgers to build some play spaces in different world settings, and if we can get playable ai I plan on doing a SoS story line too.
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i love your ideas, i have the same ideas. but do i dare get my hopes up? i had my hopes up about alot in infinite, so is forge really going to hit the nail on the head?
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Infinite forge 1.0? I doubt it. We don’t even have a mantis or let alone a map that reliably spawns a scorpion.
But if bots are coming in, I’d like to hope that ai placement is no so inconceivable for them.
Tbh it actually isn’t at all. It’d just require another option set. Rather then Bot : true
Elite/grunt/etc : true zone variables.
Now LISTEN IM NO CODER I KNOW ITS MORE THAN THAT.
but my point is gathered. In line with that thought process I honestly think the reason we haven’t heard anything about firefight is because they haven’t figured out a way to
A) MONETIZE it.
B) what this firefight will be. Which I don’t understand because at the base everyone would at least like basic arena FF. Open world segment firefights with objectives and a boss fight at the end would be awesome. (I think you can view my profile for a thread I made about how a FireOps, see what I did there, Could work.)
C) they’re going to open firefight map design to the public. Similar to how they featured created maps for H5 social and reach social games.
well if 343 doesnt give us AI hopefully modders will :^)
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What bothers me is that they spent so much time trying to show off how “good” coatings and armors are. And the one place where people are almost unanimously happy showing off their Spartans, they don’t do it. Maybe people will buy more from the shop if there are more places to view them!
MP Just feels like the Agryna & Eklund cardboard character show, while your MP Spartan and forgotten Spartan Dinh disappear. Even though that is meant to be “our Spartan story”. Oh and they’ll retcon Fireteam Crimson, our first custom Spartan story to be Eklund. (There is wiggle room for her to leave Crimson before Spartan Ops but the lore comes off as Eklund was the one in Spartan Ops, not us)
Then co-op, where people might pretend to do PVE and form their own stories with their custom spartans, nah it can only be Chief. Co-op isn’t canon anyway, but we have to keep it Chief. Because 4 Master Chiefs makes a whole lot more sense than happening upon 3 Spartan IV’s on the Banished ship…
343, whoever is making these decisions on what the story about our Spartans is meant to be, please, tell them for me: Stop railroading and rewriting what “our Spartans” do. I never thought I would say this, but let people have their fan fictions about their spartans. Instead of offering only one way that our Spartans can be “canon” only to rewrite them later (Eklund…) Give us the tools to make up our own crap. I’m not saying “oh let’s have fan fiction contests” or saying “Yeah my Spartan was on Zeta Halo with Chief the whole time!” What I’m saying is let the game facilitate our personalities.
While playing co-op with my GF she naturally leaned toward being a sniper, and I leaned toward fast-moving mid-range attacks to draw fire to let her pick off targets. We work together well. It would be nice if our custom spartans reflected that and we made our own stories around that. It doesn’t matter where or what context this happened, it is just cooler to think that the two of us took down a banished base together, not that a pair of Master Chiefs saved Zeta Halo one base at a time. For us maybe it was on Zeta Halo, maybe it was on some random planet, maybe we don’t think twice and just move on with the game. It doesn’t matter and no one who has control of writing should take that away from the fans. Instead 343’s writing is actively blocking off this kind of fun. They’re saying “No you’re Spartan wasn’t on Fireteam Crimson, Eklund was, actually your Spartan is brand new and just learning at the Academy!” Okay, so you’re telling me that it isn’t possible in the years between Spartan Ops and Halo Infinite that my spartan was restationed off Fireteam Crimson and is a senior member at the Academy? That somehow you don’t like that I’m making my own story that you have no control of and doesn’t tread on what you’re setting up? 343 might not say it, but that’s how this feels.
Sure, functionally it isn’t necessary, but at this point its like 343 is saying “Your Spartan is doing ‘this’ unless we decide to rewrite it later.” Dang it let my Blue and White SII sniper GF and my Black and Red SIII shoot aliens in a non-roundbased mode in the events before Halo Infinite. You all can fill in what’s happening now. We’ll worry about the unneccessary backstory. If you’re that worried about what the fans do with their non-canon backstories and need to hand-hold us, at least both of us have our own copies of the encyclopedia.
Holy crap I went on a rant defending how fan-fiction ties into co-op cosmetics at 3AM. I need a life.
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It doesn’t bother me too much tbh, I’d rather 343 focus on fixing other aspects of the game than making it a priority for you to have a custom spartan in the campaign which is meant to be centered around Chief anyway.
It could always be changed at a later date, but I doubt it because it’s not that important.
If the rumours and videos are true I plan on having that ability to create a story in a way.
Ai placement, nodes and navmeshs can make a head hunter fan fic for you and your gf possible
Then why does he have clones? It’s the opposite of immersive. It makes so much more sense for other Spartans to have joined the fight while chief can still lead the story and narrative.
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