Has there been any word on whether equipment is returning or not? I hope 343 isn’t thinking of the Spartan abilities as a kind of replacement.
They are an evolution. Equipment was evolved into Armor Abilities and Armor Abilities were turned into Spartan Abilities. So far it seems like Spartan Abilities are fulfilling that fourth layer of gameplay better than those prior 2 incarnations.
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> They are an evolution. Equipment was evolved into Armor Abilities and Armor Abilities were turned into Spartan Abilities. So far it seems like Spartan Abilities are fulfilling that fourth layer of gameplay better than those prior 2 incarnations.
Not really. These Spartan abilities (which, let’s be honest, should really just be called base shooter traits at this point) are more of a mobility evolution than an equipment evolution. I’m not hating on these new abilities, but they’re no substitute for equipment like the bubble shield, power drainer, flare, etc.
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> > They are an evolution. Equipment was evolved into Armor Abilities and Armor Abilities were turned into Spartan Abilities. So far it seems like Spartan Abilities are fulfilling that fourth layer of gameplay better than those prior 2 incarnations.
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> Not really. These Spartan abilities (which, let’s be honest, should really just be called base shooter traits at this point) are more of a mobility evolution than an equipment evolution. I’m not hating on these new abilities, but they’re no substitute for equipment like the bubble shield, power drainer, flare, etc.
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Equipment is horrible. Do not see the difference between them and AAs as far as brokenness goes…
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> Equipment is horrible. Do not see the difference between them and AAs as far as brokenness goes…
Well for one, you don’t spawn with equipment, so it doesn’t break Halo’s arena gameplay at all. You fight for it just like any power weapon. I’m not seeing the issue.
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> Well for one, you don’t spawn with equipment, so it doesn’t break Halo’s arena gameplay at all. You fight for it just like any power weapon. I’m not seeing the issue.
Pretty much this. I don’t see why players should ever give Halo 3 Equipment such a stigma.
Personally I wouldn’t mind seeing certain Armour Abilities (like Hologram) return as equipment.
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> Well for one, you don’t spawn with equipment, so it doesn’t break Halo’s arena gameplay at all. You fight for it just like any power weapon. I’m not seeing the issue.
Here is the issue. They are all stupid. What the -Yoink- do we need a regen field for? Power drain is just a cheap way to get a cheap kill. Flare is just blinding the other team. That bubble sheild is just a chicken way to force somebody to come to you. I mean you can’t tell me that using these things requires any type of skill on your part… especially power drain.
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> Here is the issue. They are all stupid. What the -Yoink- do we need a regen field for? Power drain is just a cheap way to get a cheap kill. Flare is just blinding the other team. That bubble sheild is just a chicken way to force somebody to come to you. I mean you can’t tell me that using these things requires any type of skill on your part… especially power drain.
Fun Fact: MLG would actually agree completely with your statements.
I’m not against equipment conceptually, but really there needs to be better ones.
> Well for one, you don’t spawn with equipment, so it doesn’t break Halo’s arena gameplay at all.
Throwing something on the map doesn’t automatically make it well designed or acceptable. People need to get that notion out of their head.
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> Here is the issue. They are all stupid. What the -Yoink- do we need a regen field for? Power drain is just a cheap way to get a cheap kill. Flare is just blinding the other team. That bubble sheild is just a chicken way to force somebody to come to you. I mean you can’t tell me that using these things requires any type of skill on your part… especially power drain.
This.
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> Here is the issue. They are all stupid. What the -Yoink- do we need a regen field for? Power drain is just a cheap way to get a cheap kill. Flare is just blinding the other team. That bubble sheild is just a chicken way to force somebody to come to you. I mean you can’t tell me that using these things requires any type of skill on your part… especially power drain.
You realize that 343 can tweak existing equipment or add new, more useful ones? Just because something wasn’t implemented well in one game (although I think equipment was handled fairly well in Halo 3) doesn’t mean that the concept as a whole should be scrapped.
I hope for return of equipment and power ups. They make maps more interesting. 1 usage equipment does not slow down the game as much as AAs or make things Op. Best thing about them is that they are on the map.
How is power drain bad, but rocket launchers, plasma pistols, and other such weapons fine?
How is power drain bad, but rocket launchers, plasma pistols, and other such weapons fine?
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> How is power drain bad, but rocket launchers, plasma pistols, and other such weapons fine?
Plasma Pistol isn’t even comparable. It’s homing isn’t that great and it actually has to be aimed anyways.
Power Drain, you just toss it and it drains everything within a massive radius. It’s a frag grenade on steroids.
Rockets are slow traveling, slow reloading, take a long time to spawn, and besides that they are pretty much the actual goal of the game anyways. Rockets aren’t all that great either in my opinion, but they’re kind of expected to be there.
> Throwing something on the map doesn’t automatically make it well designed or acceptable. People need to get that notion out of their head.
I never stated that it did, but I’ve yet to hear a legitimate argument against equipment. All I’ve heard so far is “they’re all stupid.” Even if you didn’t like Halo 3’s specific equipment items, that doesn’t mean the entire concept of equipment is broken.
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Very constructive…
equipment and spartan abilitys are junk
i liked the equipment and the aspect of the game it added.
the each had a strategy… that bubble shield deployment could get a flag carrier some extra distance if placed in the right spot.
i though it was a great addition.
that said, i think armor abilities AND equipment have their own respective places in the game. however, i wouldn’t be against testing them together and seeing what it did for gameplay