Entering a losing battle!

This happens 50% of btb matches. I am imported into a one sided match that other players have left and there is seemingly no comeback in sight. 343 basically just hands you a loss for no reason. Eliminate that from happening! I would rather wait an extra 5 minutes to be fairly matched than to be sent into a game where one side is clearly just kill-farming and the only people that stay in are useless noobs. Once again the focused/expanded options have failed royally. I don’t want to join a clan, I like lone-wolfing so I’d really just like to get rid of this bs. because it causes me to leave games; sometimes 4 times in a row because I have been consecutively placed in the middle of a losing battle. If I have joined early enough I can usually turn things around but most folks that play freely just don’t seem to have the will to give it their all. They’d rather just run around in circles (sometimes literally). So eliminate joining in the middle of games because most of the time it is very unmatched. Better yet, set a point in a match where joining cannot happen and if the losing team decides to quit out, so be it. It’s not like it doesn’t happen already.

Yeah it’s JIP. It happens to me. But if I was running the game, what are you supposed to do? Let people lose by not placing people in to the game, or put people into a game which is losing?

I wouldn’t say they’re all useless noobs. Not much you can do when you’re down by numerous players and the other team has all the power weapons and vehicles. It’s something that I doubt will ever get fixed, but my advice would be to quit the build if you get a JIP game. It won’t say the map name if it’s JIP.

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> This happens 50% of btb matches. I am imported into a one sided match that other players have left and there is seemingly no comeback in sight. 343 basically just hands you a loss for no reason. Eliminate that from happening! I would rather wait an extra 5 minutes to be fairly matched than to be sent into a game where one side is clearly just kill-farming and the only people that stay in are useless noobs. Once again the focused/expanded options have failed royally. I don’t want to join a clan, I like lone-wolfing so I’d really just like to get rid of this bs. because it causes me to leave games; sometimes 4 times in a row because I have been consecutively placed in the middle of a losing battle. If I have joined early enough I can usually turn things around but most folks that play freely just don’t seem to have the will to give it their all. They’d rather just run around in circles (sometimes literally). So eliminate joining in the middle of games because most of the time it is very unmatched. Better yet, set a point in a match where joining cannot happen and if the losing team decides to quit out, so be it. It’s not like it doesn’t happen already.

It’s because of people quitting that causes these games in the first place.

Of course the people left behind won’t try as much anymore, they’re losing in terms of score and outnumbered, and the people that drop in are going to leave soon after because they’re now losing too, making the score appear more and more lopsided.

JIP needs to be changed to where it turns off after a certain amount of time/score, but JIP exists explicitly for this reason, to stop lopsided games from quitters.

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> > This happens 50% of btb matches. I am imported into a one sided match that other players have left and there is seemingly no comeback in sight. 343 basically just hands you a loss for no reason. Eliminate that from happening! I would rather wait an extra 5 minutes to be fairly matched than to be sent into a game where one side is clearly just kill-farming and the only people that stay in are useless noobs. Once again the focused/expanded options have failed royally. I don’t want to join a clan, I like lone-wolfing so I’d really just like to get rid of this bs. because it causes me to leave games; sometimes 4 times in a row because I have been consecutively placed in the middle of a losing battle. If I have joined early enough I can usually turn things around but most folks that play freely just don’t seem to have the will to give it their all. They’d rather just run around in circles (sometimes literally). So eliminate joining in the middle of games because most of the time it is very unmatched. Better yet, set a point in a match where joining cannot happen and if the losing team decides to quit out, so be it. It’s not like it doesn’t happen already.
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> It’s because of people quitting that causes these games in the first place.
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> Of course the people left behind won’t try as much anymore, they’re losing in terms of score and outnumbered, and the people that drop in are going to leave soon after because they’re now losing too, making the score appear more and more lopsided.
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> JIP needs to be changed to where it turns off after a certain amount of time/score, but JIP exists explicitly for this reason, to stop lopsided games from quitters.

It actually is currently set up like that. Once the time/score reaches a certain point it stops letting new players join to prevent them from getting a unfair loss. That’s there are only 2 or 3 players remaining at the end of a lopsided game. Personally I think a more effective solution would to allow JIP at any time, but not count it as a win or a loss.

This game has actually pushed me to the brink of destroying the disc. If you want to play without a clan, you will have a team that is not as good as you 80% of the time. It’s really not a fun game unless you have other players who are just as good as you to play with. The matchmaking is horrid, every time i want to play a ranked game that i haven’t been ranked on yet, I am joined by imbeciles, who collapse within minutes until the ranking system puts me with players of my caliber. Even then I still lose a fair amount, the problem is you just can’t win when the rest of your team sucks. I have been trying for the past hour or two to have a good game that is not a -Yoinking!- blowout. today is just not my day for this -Yoink- game. Honestly 343, more complaints than compliments for this game.

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> This game has actually pushed me to the brink of destroying the disc. If you want to play without a clan, you will have a team that is not as good as you 80% of the time. It’s really not a fun game unless you have other players who are just as good as you to play with. The matchmaking is horrid, every time i want to play a ranked game that i haven’t been ranked on yet, I am joined by imbeciles, who collapse within minutes until the ranking system puts me with players of my caliber. Even then I still lose a fair amount, the problem is you just can’t win when the rest of your team sucks. I have been trying for the past hour or two to have a good game that is not a -Yoinking!- blowout. today is just not my day for this -Yoink- game. Honestly 343, more complaints than compliments for this game.

I don’t see how any of this has to do with joining a clan. Nothing’s making you do that.

Just about every playlist matches you roughly based on your MMR, how much is depending on what playlist and how long you’ve been searching. Search Focused if you want to find more players closer to your team.

And even then, it depends on the mentality of that person of that point in time. If I’m regularly an Onyx and just feel like messing around and playing like a Silver, the game won’t really account for that mid-game.

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> This happens 50% of btb matches. I am imported into a one sided match that other players have left and there is seemingly no comeback in sight. 343 basically just hands you a loss for no reason. Eliminate that from happening! I would rather wait an extra 5 minutes to be fairly matched than to be sent into a game where one side is clearly just kill-farming and the only people that stay in are useless noobs. Once again the focused/expanded options have failed royally. I don’t want to join a clan, I like lone-wolfing so I’d really just like to get rid of this bs. because it causes me to leave games; sometimes 4 times in a row because I have been consecutively placed in the middle of a losing battle. If I have joined early enough I can usually turn things around but most folks that play freely just don’t seem to have the will to give it their all. They’d rather just run around in circles (sometimes literally). So eliminate joining in the middle of games because most of the time it is very unmatched. Better yet, set a point in a match where joining cannot happen and if the losing team decides to quit out, so be it. It’s not like it doesn’t happen already.

Titanfall and Titanfall 2 have got this spot on. If you join a losing game and lose, it does not record a loss, if you turn it around and win, the win is recorded. It gives you an incentive to try to win a jip game imo. Halo and ALL shooters with jip should have this.

There’ll be a time JIP will put you in situations like this.

I wish Halo 5 worked like titanfall where if you joined a game in progress where your team is losing by a landside or you joined near the end, it doesn’t count toward your rank or K/D

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> There’ll be a time JIP will put you in situations like this.

I’ve been in the same situation as you did a dozen times, mostly in warzone.

What about a mercy rule like Destiny? That might keep people from quitting in the first place…same for those games where everyone quits but one guy. Everyone is forced to aimlessly walk around the map looking for one guy who can barely get a shot off before he gets teamshotted to hell. I also like the titanfall 2 idea that is really cool!

JIP should never have been added. At the very least, people should have the option to turn it off individually.

I went from like 70% win rates to now almost being close to going under 50% I catch like 8 already started matches in a row anytime I try any social playlist, I join and i lose 40 seconds later. Social playlists especially BTB is basically fully companies spawn camping or just doing dumb -Yoink- and everyone quits and you get thrown in. I can’t even find warzone assault matches anymore to just pretend its btb where i can actually have gunfights.
H5 became really unfun for people that play alone, even in ranked I get put on teams with people in placements against full parties or parties of 3.

JIP really made me stop playing and makes me stop playing before I even start having fun.

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> There’ll be a time JIP will put you in situations like this.

This happens a lot in griffball. I feel like the jip issue shines best in grifball. I’ve had so many times where I join a game as it ends, getting an unfair loss or win on my record. Sometimes I never get to spawn, I just watch the final goal get scored, or the game ends while loading in… when that happens the game doesn’t know what to do and is just like uhhhhhh and requires a restart. This should be a fix, if the game is in overtime or under the 3 minute mark there should be no jip enabled

I feel the pain. The other day me and a friend got tossed into a game just before three people left leaving us with a 3 vs 8 that soon became a 2 vs 8 situation. Needless to say we lost by a god knows how many kills.
Please 343 fix this. I don’t know how but surely you can think of something.

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> This game has actually pushed me to the brink of destroying the disc. If you want to play without a clan, you will have a team that is not as good as you 80% of the time. It’s really not a fun game unless you have other players who are just as good as you to play with. The matchmaking is horrid, every time i want to play a ranked game that i haven’t been ranked on yet, I am joined by imbeciles, who collapse within minutes until the ranking system puts me with players of my caliber. Even then I still lose a fair amount, the problem is you just can’t win when the rest of your team sucks. I have been trying for the past hour or two to have a good game that is not a -Yoinking!- blowout. today is just not my day for this -Yoink- game. Honestly 343, more complaints than compliments for this game.

I think that would be quite the rage quit…but, you are right. Thus, I never play btb (where it happens most often). Fortunately, I have a digital copy and can’t break the disk.

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> > This game has actually pushed me to the brink of destroying the disc. If you want to play without a clan, you will have a team that is not as good as you 80% of the time. It’s really not a fun game unless you have other players who are just as good as you to play with. The matchmaking is horrid, every time i want to play a ranked game that i haven’t been ranked on yet, I am joined by imbeciles, who collapse within minutes until the ranking system puts me with players of my caliber. Even then I still lose a fair amount, the problem is you just can’t win when the rest of your team sucks. I have been trying for the past hour or two to have a good game that is not a -Yoinking!- blowout. today is just not my day for this -Yoink- game. Honestly 343, more complaints than compliments for this game.
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> I don’t see how any of this has to do with joining a clan. Nothing’s making you do that.
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> Just about every playlist matches you roughly based on your MMR, how much is depending on what playlist and how long you’ve been searching. Search Focused if you want to find more players closer to your team.
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> And even then, it depends on the mentality of that person of that point in time. If I’m regularly an Onyx and just feel like messing around and playing like a Silver, the game won’t really account for that mid-game.

The reasoning for joining a clan would be that you have other players who are willing to play according to the objective of the specific game type that you are playing. I frequently am the only one who is willing to put my spartan on the line for the win, when most of my team (in assault for instance) will be too busy trying to play slayer 24/7 in an objective type game. That is mind-numbingly frustrating to me. If I use a mic to motivate, and essentially, coach my team, then I’ve noticed we fair a lot better than if I hadn’t been using a mic. Regardless, some players just want to “watch the world burn” as it were, and could give a -Yoink- about the outcome of the match. That is why I would have more success and thus more wins with a clan because the key to winning in H5 is communication and teamwork, otherwise general skill will get you kills and highlights, but not always a win.

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> There’ll be a time JIP will put you in situations like this.

I once joined a Warzone Firefight game and when it loaded in it was on the animation of the pelicans flying away. But my team won so I got a few thousand req points for doing nothing.