first room is tilted towards red unless blue is of greater strength.
Red can spawn kill, and get on the roof. *Blue can’t without getting in thru second floor first.
…now on to the armory…Blue domminance…
Blue can take up positions surrounding the armory,
And can shoot at spawns almost cross map.
…the core…Blue domminance…
The core can’t be defended from outside due to lack of cross map cover.
Being able to “snipe” people inside the core’s building from almost anywhere across the map.
Basically.
The core needs some short angled walls outside doors, in the road. Or conveniently elivateded billboards to protect from long range fire.
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More Crates for cover between core’s doors.
And block off the under passage between armory and core.
While iv’e never fully noticed this as a genuine issue. I do notice Blue team can have an advantage if they know where to go, but with the crazyness of warzone, it ussually passes by me.
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> While iv’e never fully noticed this as a genuine issue. I do notice Blue team can have an advantage if they know where to go, but with the crazyness of warzone, it ussually passes by me.
I’m talking about urban only.<<
Blue has the advantage on urban.
The only way red wins on urban is if red is alot better than blue.
Two equal teams on Urban, Blue wins due to faulty
Map design.
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> first room is tilted towards red unless blue is of greater strength.
> Red can spawn kill, and get on the roof. *Blue can’t without getting in thru second floor first.
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> …now on to the armory…Blue domminance…
> Blue can take up positions surrounding the armory,
> And can shoot at spawns almost cross map.
> …the core…Blue domminance…
> The core can’t be defended from outside due to lack of cross map cover.
> Being able to “snipe” people inside the core’s building from almost anywhere across the map.
Blue can double jump to get on the roof of the garage. Fair for both red and blue, and blue actually can get 8 people on the rook VERY fast if done correctly. You can figure that part out like our team did.
Armory: most players havent explored the map and dont know where to hold positions. Here’s a pro tip : find the lone tree, and see if you change your mind as red team
Core- like anyother warzone map. dont let them and win
Never had an issue as blue team when getting the garage on Urban. Red team normally stays in the base, allowing blue team to use all the crates …etc 343 has placed to allow blue team to get to the second floor alot quicker, heck blue team can easly get on the roof.
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> Never had an issue as blue team when getting the garage on Urban. Red team normally stays in the base, allowing blue team to use all the crates …etc 343 has place to allow blue team to get to the second floor alot quicker, heck blue team can easly get on the roof.
A few days ago, I would have agreed with you. But the past few games I have played on Urban I got to say that if the red team is even just a little bit better/ has some cohesion or communication, they really can dominate blue at the garage. I havn’t experienced any issues at the armory or core (yet), but gotta say I was dumbfounded how easily red was able to cockblock us from the start. Crazy.
A couple times (and I really mean like only 2 games), we were barely able to set foot into the garage. My team may have not been exactly the “A Team”, but we were not that bad. Especially in multiple matchmade games no less.
I mean maybe I just got unlucky with matchmaking, but I donno. Like I said, crazy.
Personally, I have ended most games on Urban on the armory stage when defending.
As for the rest of the post: There are only 3 points. Garage. Armory. Core. Now if we stick with whole numbers on who has the advantage or not then we shouldn’t need a mathetictian to tell us they can be split equally. Meaning (if the rest follows as a known guideline) half of 3 can not be done but at best 2:1 or 1:2 to be equal thus showing one side will always have an advantage.
Disclaimer: this is really just -Yoink- logic. All the maps can be won based on: Spawn control and when to go as a group regardless of red or blue.
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> > Never had an issue as blue team when getting the garage on Urban. Red team normally stays in the base, allowing blue team to use all the crates …etc 343 has place to allow blue team to get to the second floor alot quicker, heck blue team can easly get on the roof.
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> A few days ago, I would have agreed with you. But the past few games I have played on Urban I got to say that if the red team is even just a little bit better/ has some cohesion or communication, they really can dominate blue at the garage. I havn’t experienced any issues at the armory or core (yet), but gotta say I was dumbfounded how easily red was able to cockblock us from the start. Crazy.
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> A couple times (and I really mean like only 2 games), we were barely able to set foot into the garage. My team may have not been exactly the “A Team”, but we were not that bad. Especially in multiple matchmade games no less.
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> I mean maybe I just got unlucky with matchmaking, but I donno. Like I said, crazy.
True either red holds the garage or they lose on urban.
But the core is more often than other maps hopeless on urban.
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I stick to the billboard outside the core idea.
Just past the ramp outside the doors.
Making people get closer or lower to shoot in the core building.