I think Empire might be the worst map that 343 has created. I honestly can’t stand it. Snipers as the power weapons rather than something that plays well in close quarters like a rocket launcher or even a shotgun? Odd choice. The map is bland, there’s nothing remarkable about it, and it is completely devoid of character or Halo vibes.
There are just no good sniping lanes and it is too close quarters. Why even have DMRs or BRs on the map when you get -Yoink- on by SMGs?
You must be bad with the sniper. I wreck with it get better scrubs.
While I agree that Shotgun or SPNKr should have been the way to go, I think Empire is great at funneling players to different choke points and has two really good power weapon spawns that provide really fun battles over. The outside is cool for longer range battles, while the inside base is cool for short range brawls. I like it a lot better than Truth. I know it’s Midship, but I just think that Empire fits the new abilities much better and I hope for Empire every time now.
I actually didn’t mind it too much. Maybe it was because I’m tired of playing Midship for the 100000000000th time in my Halo career. But I will agree that it didn’t have a “Halo” vibe to it. Felt more like an Advanced Warfare map.
Way better than Halo Reach maps.
I really like it. But maybe that’s because I’m not a fan of midship…
Still better than that forsaken map they call Complex.
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> There are just no good sniping lanes and it is too close quarters. Why even have DMRs or BRs on the map when you get -Yoink- on by SMGs?
If you cant find Sniping lanes then you shouldn’t be sniping ever. There are plenty of them.
I actually think these are two of the best maps 343 has ever made.
GASP I complimented 343
Halo 4’s maps were complete garbage. Sniping is not jsut for long big maps. And it is a breath of fresh air not having to worry about Swords and shottys on small maps. I mean seriously if swords and shotties were the weapons on there it would suck
I beg to differ.
Remember Boneyard in Reach? Half the map was completely forgotten in Slayer. No one ever went over onto the opposite side of the frigate.
I can’t argue if you don’t like to play on it, but much more thought was put into Empire than Boneyard.
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> I actually think these are two of the best maps 343 has ever made.
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> GASP I complimented 343
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> Halo 4’s maps were complete garbage. Sniping is not jsut for long big maps. And it is a breath of fresh air not having to worry about Swords and shottys on small maps. I mean seriously if swords and shotties were the weapons on there it would suck
I wouldn’t get too used to that. The beta is missing a large amount of the weapons the final game will have. There’s nothing stopping them from putting those in the final version of the map.
Hell the shotgun spawn on midship may not have a shotgun in it(yet), but the design of the map certainly looks like a weapon should be there.
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> I beg to differ.
> Remember Boneyard in Reach? Half the map was completely forgotten in Slayer. No one ever went over onto the opposite side of the frigate.
> I can’t argue if you don’t like to play on it, but much more thought was put into Empire than Boneyard.
Hence why I said worst map 343 made, not Bungie.
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> > I actually think these are two of the best maps 343 has ever made.
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> > Halo 4’s maps were complete garbage. Sniping is not jsut for long big maps. And it is a breath of fresh air not having to worry about Swords and shottys on small maps. I mean seriously if swords and shotties were the weapons on there it would suck
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> I wouldn’t get too used to that. The beta is missing a large amount of the weapons the final game will have. There’s nothing stopping them from putting those in the final version of the map.
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> Hell the shotgun spawn on midship may not have a shotgun in it(yet), but the design of the map certainly looks like a weapon should be there.
Yeah I know I was mainly talking about Empire. I’m sure 343 will add in some nice nooby weapons that make people camp like crazy
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> Way better than Halo Reach maps.
That’s not exactly an accomplishment.
I’d say the same about Halo 3.
For the past three games, map design has been mediocre. Halo 3 only had a few good default maps, the rest of the good maps were remakes or DLC.
I’m hoping (but not expecting) that Halo 5 breaks this cycle.
Some bad spawning going on that map. I was naded before I spawned in killcam then shot down.
Ive seen people wreck house with the sniper. Even seen a few no scopes.
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> > I beg to differ.
> > Remember Boneyard in Reach? Half the map was completely forgotten in Slayer. No one ever went over onto the opposite side of the frigate.
> > I can’t argue if you don’t like to play on it, but much more thought was put into Empire than Boneyard.
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> Hence why I said worst map 343 made, not Bungie.
Oh, my bad. You said recent history and I still think of everything after H3 as recent.
Yeah, Empire ain’t the best, but they’ll add to it. They haven’t added a Mantis to it yet, so it hasn’t been completely broken. 
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> Way better than Halo Reach maps.
Anything is better than Halo Reach maps.
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> > > I beg to differ.
> > > Remember Boneyard in Reach? Half the map was completely forgotten in Slayer. No one ever went over onto the opposite side of the frigate.
> > > I can’t argue if you don’t like to play on it, but much more thought was put into Empire than Boneyard.
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> > Hence why I said worst map 343 made, not Bungie.
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> Oh, my bad. You said recent history and I still think of everything after H3 as recent.
> Yeah, Empire ain’t the best, but they’ll add to it. They haven’t added a Mantis to it yet, so it hasn’t been completely broken.
Yeah, I did say recent history,so fair enough. To be fair,the more I play it tonight, the more that I am liking it. I like Tuth much more though.