Elites return and playable grunts

You read the title, so anyway it’s been awhile since the Elites were able to be playable characters and it would be a total game changer if 343 give us a option to play as a grunt. All Hail YapYap the destroyer!!!

You should add your thoughts to this thread. I know it’s the Playable Elites megathread, but it’s been expanded to include all playable species discussions.

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> You read the title, so anyway it’s been awhile since the Elites were able to be playable characters and it would be a total game changer if 343 give us a option to play as a grunt. All Hail YapYap the destroyer!!!

There is a very delicate thing in shooters that a large variation in the size of opponents will quickly screw with. Ever wonder why Elites and Spartans tend to be roughly the same size in any game that includes both in multiplayer? (Outside of Reach…which kinda makes my point). It’s called hit-boxes…which directly correlates to the balance of a game. If you have opponents of multiple sizes and varying hit-boxes , then inevitably one side has at least a slight advantage , possibly a large advantage (speaking particularly of Halo MP : trying to shoot grunts across Blood Gulch , compared to Spartans or Elites , would be much more difficult). So , I would say that grunts are likely out for MP , probably Brutes too ; unless some serious changes are made to make them fit the MP , which ruins most of the reason people even ask for these species in the first place.

All that said , could Halo come out with some kind of asymmetric multiplayer mode that pits a lone Spartan against a squad of grunts , or a squad of Spartans vs a Mecha-grunt or an Atriox style Brute , sure…but this is likely the only way they are included.

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> > You read the title, so anyway it’s been awhile since the Elites were able to be playable characters and it would be a total game changer if 343 give us a option to play as a grunt. All Hail YapYap the destroyer!!!
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> There is a very delicate thing in shooters that a large variation in the size of opponents will quickly screw with. Ever wonder why Elites and Spartans tend to be roughly the same size in any game that includes both in multiplayer? (Outside of Reach…which kinda makes my point). It’s called hit-boxes…which directly correlates to the balance of a game. If you have opponents of multiple sizes and varying hit-boxes , then inevitably one side has at least a slight advantage , possibly a large advantage (speaking particularly of Halo MP : trying to shoot grunts across Blood Gulch , compared to Spartans or Elites , would be much more difficult). So , I would say that grunts are likely out for MP , probably Brutes too ; unless some serious changes are made to make them fit the MP , which ruins most of the reason people even ask for these species in the first place.
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> All that said , could Halo come out with some kind of asymmetric multiplayer mode that pits a lone Spartan against a squad of grunts , or a squad of Spartans vs a Mecha-grunt or an Atriox style Brute , sure…but this is likely the only way they are included.

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Feel free to use the existing thread as noted above