Elites in The Reclaimer Trilogy

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I am one who believes that Elites and other ex-Covenant species will be in Halo 4 or make an appearance some time during the Reclaimer Trilogy.

This is purely speculation.

I am basing most of this idea on The Return, a motion comic released on Waypoint some time ago. It tells the story of an Elite dealing with flashbacks to post-war engagements during the Great Schism, while also talking about the future of the Sangheili race as a whole.

Post 2552, Elites are feeling like they serve no purpose any more. Ever since their banishment from the Covenant, they’ve been stripped of almost any reason to continue on as a species. To understand this, you’d have to know about Elite culture and society. Basically, they are warriors, and now they are warriors without a fight. Their only purpose for thousands of years was to fight, and now there doesn’t seem to be large-scale conflict any more, except for the Great Schism, but even that seems to be coming to a close, as hinted by The Return.

Worship of the Forerunners: According to The Return and partially Glasslands, many Elites still regard the Forerunners as gods. They’ve been believing this for thousands of years, and they’re not exactly going to let go of that belief so quickly. Forerunners are gods to the Sangheili, and the Sangheili will obey what they are directed to do by the gods, which brings me to my next point.

Humans, the new Monitor, and the Elites: In The Return, it seems as if the humans have discovered another monitor, according to documents scattered around the area where the human camp on Kholo is.

Pause the video, and take a look on the right side of the screen to see what I’m talking about.

I have no idea what that monitor may be. I don’t know if it’s just a random one, or the monitor of Installation 03, considering the humans have found this ring and have established a base in orbit around it. Who knows? We’ll find out. But for now, we can only guess.

But I still want to focus on the Elites purpose. You see, they took one of the humans at the camp prisoner and have probably interrogated him. This means that the Elites may have found out the location of an Installation from the human, though I don’t see how this would give them a purpose, other than to investigate the structure.

Forerunners and Elites: Let’s just say Forerunners appear in Halo 4, which I think they most likely will. If so, then they will probably ally with humanity to assist them in fighting the ancient evil, which is most likely going to be the Flood and the Precursors, and the Elites will probably want to volunteer to assist in the fight against this new enemy as well. Let’s just hope it’s a bit more…meaningful and better than that. Anyway, this will give the Elites a purpose again, as they will fight for their now apparent gods that need assistance in facing this new threat. Elites would do anything for a purpose again, and assisting their now appearing gods, the Forerunners, against a greater threat that may doom the entire galaxy is more than an honor for them.

Elites and their Allies: By participating in the fight against the Flood and Precursors, the Elites will obviously pick up the Forerunners as allies. Humanity and the Elites will probably be reunited again through pure neccesity, as this ancient threat will doom the fate of the entire galaxy. So, it’s either ally with your former enemy, something Elites did during the beginning of the Great Schism, or both species will be wiped out.

The Great Schism caused a split between many races in the Covenant. Mainly Grunts and Hunters sided with the Elites, and I think that alliance will remain throughout the Reclaimer Trilogy. All three races get along exceptionally well, and I’m sure they wouldn’t begin to fight amongst themselves like the Brutes eventually did. So, basically Hunters and Grunts will fight alongside the Elites during this new war, as they did before. It would be awesome to have Elite, Hunter, and Grunt allies throughout this new conflict, along with the Forerunners, wouldn’t it?

Humanity and other Covenant species have worked together before to stop the Flood, so what would prevent them from doing that now?

Thanks for reading, guys, and I hope to see these ex-Covenant species return on the side of humanity throughout the Reclaimer Trilogy.

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Yeah, cool Covenant is cool.

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Anybody else?

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Definitely. Bungie’s worked quite a lot on the covenant, and I’m sure there’s a lot to explore in them. Also, it would be kinda dull to go all forerunner for the whole trilogy.

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They’ll most likely return. But when they do, their appearance better be revamped…Halo: Reach Elites were ridiculous. Brightly colored, goofy looking figures just rolling around.

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I just really don’t see why people want something as iconic as the Elite to not be included in the next trilogy. They are staples of the franchise.

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> Worship of the Forerunners: According to The Return and partially Glasslands, many Elites still regard the Forerunners as gods. They’ve been believing this for thousands of years, and they’re not exactly going to let go of that belief so quickly. Forerunners are gods to the Sangheili, and the Sangheili will obey what they are directed to do by the gods, which brings me to my next point.

That is just one Shipmaster though. In Glasslands, most Elites appear to be very resentful towards the Forerunners. They believe that they are either not gods, or gods unworthy of being worshipped for allowing the Sangheili to be taken advantage of by the Prophets. The only apparent resistance to this change in belief is a group of outcast monks who are not held in very high regard by many Elites.

Also, the Sangheili followed the Forerunners because they thought they were divine. Seeing them in the flesh, seeing how weak they are like any other mortal and seeing how they can bleed and die like all the rest would forever shatter their belief in them. Why would they follow the Forerunners in that case? The Forerunners are then just another alien race in the galaxy.

This is also assuming that the Forerunners would welcome the Sangheili with open arms. They would not. Not after what the Sangheili just did to Humanity. They would be more likely to tell them to get away from them. The Forerunners conviction to the preservation of life, and stopping things like genocide, forced them to destroy Ancient Humanity. They would have no qualms about telling some unknown and random alien race to go -Yoink- itself after committing what is most likely one of the most sever transgression against their Mantle.

I don’t think that the Sangheili have anyone or anywhere to turn to. They appear to be on their own, both as far as what we know and as far as hypothetical scenarios go.

> Humanity and the Elites will probably be reunited again through pure neccesity, as this ancient threat will doom the fate of the entire galaxy. So, it’s either ally with your former enemy, something Elites did during the beginning of the Great Schism, or both species will be wiped out.

Well, we already had this story. It was Halo 2 and Halo 3. Personally, I don’t want the same story that I got 7 years ago just being re-skinned and sent out again. I want them to expand on what has already been told and carry that story, from 7 years ago, onwards to wherever it would next lead. Not retell it, again and again.

> Humanity and other Covenant species have worked together before to stop the Flood, so what would prevent them from doing that now?

Humans being vindictive. ONI are a nasty bunch.

Edit: I would like to see the Elites in the Reclaimer trilogy, just, for slightly different reasons.

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Elites definitely have a place in Halo 4, 5, and 6. Welcome, brothers. :slight_smile:

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I think their will also be Elites in Halo 4. After all what are we going to play as in matchmaking? (other than Spartans) I guess we could play as a Forerunner but that would be kind of weird but cool at the same time.

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To answer your question on the monitor i have it being one of two monitors the new 343 or a new Medicant Bias. Im just worried about the elites now with ONI i never liked them Glasslands just adds to it.

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> I am one who believes that Elites and other ex-Covenant species will be in Halo 4 or make an appearance some time during the Reclaimer Trilogy.
>
> This is purely speculation.
>
> I am basing most of this idea on The Return, a motion comic released on Waypoint some time ago. It tells the story of an Elite dealing with flashbacks to post-war engagements during the Great Schism, while also talking about the future of the Sangheili race as a whole.
>
> Post 2552, Elites are feeling like they serve no purpose any more. Ever since their banishment from the Covenant, they’ve been stripped of almost any reason to continue on as a species. To understand this, you’d have to know about Elite culture and society. Basically, they are warriors, and now they are warriors without a fight. Their only purpose for thousands of years was to fight, and now there doesn’t seem to be large-scale conflict any more, except for the Great Schism, but even that seems to be coming to a close, as hinted by The Return.
>
> Worship of the Forerunners: According to The Return and partially Glasslands, many Elites still regard the Forerunners as gods. They’ve been believing this for thousands of years, and they’re not exactly going to let go of that belief so quickly. Forerunners are gods to the Sangheili, and the Sangheili will obey what they are directed to do by the gods, which brings me to my next point.
>
> Humans, the new Monitor, and the Elites: In The Return, it seems as if the humans have discovered another monitor, according to documents scattered around the area where the human camp on Kholo is.
>
> Pause the video, and take a look on the right side of the screen to see what I’m talking about.
>
> I have no idea what that monitor may be. I don’t know if it’s just a random one, or the monitor of Installation 03, considering the humans have found this ring and have established a base in orbit around it. Who knows? We’ll find out. But for now, we can only guess.
>
> But I still want to focus on the Elites purpose. You see, they took one of the humans at the camp prisoner and have probably interrogated him. This means that the Elites may have found out the location of an Installation from the human, though I don’t see how this would give them a purpose, other than to investigate the structure.
>
> Forerunners and Elites: Let’s just say Forerunners appear in Halo 4, which I think they most likely will. If so, then they will probably ally with humanity to assist them in fighting the ancient evil, which is most likely going to be the Flood and the Precursors, and the Elites will probably want to volunteer to assist in the fight against this new enemy as well. Let’s just hope it’s a bit more…meaningful and better than that. Anyway, this will give the Elites a purpose again, as they will fight for their now apparent gods that need assistance in facing this new threat. Elites would do anything for a purpose again, and assisting their now appearing gods, the Forerunners, against a greater threat that may doom the entire galaxy is more than an honor for them.
>
> Elites and their Allies: By participating in the fight against the Flood and Precursors, the Elites will obviously pick up the Forerunners as allies. Humanity and the Elites will probably be reunited again through pure neccesity, as this ancient threat will doom the fate of the entire galaxy. So, it’s either ally with your former enemy, something Elites did during the beginning of the Great Schism, or both species will be wiped out.
>
> The Great Schism caused a split between many races in the Covenant. Mainly Grunts and Hunters sided with the Elites, and I think that alliance will remain throughout the Reclaimer Trilogy. All three races get along exceptionally well, and I’m sure they wouldn’t begin to fight amongst themselves like the Brutes eventually did. So, basically Hunters and Grunts will fight alongside the Elites during this new war, as they did before. It would be awesome to have Elite, Hunter, and Grunt allies throughout this new conflict, along with the Forerunners, wouldn’t it?
>
> Humanity and other Covenant species have worked together before to stop the Flood, so what would prevent them from doing that now?
>
> Thanks for reading, guys, and I hope to see these ex-Covenant species return on the side of humanity throughout the Reclaimer Trilogy.

This is a great idea. I don’t think 343 will leave out the Elites, Brutes, Grunts or Jackals. They MIGHT just leave out the others but to remove the species listed could potentially ruin Halo. I’m also thiking they could add Jackal pirates and Insurrectionists.

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Not yet in H4 please.

H4 should focus on the Chief-Cortana theme against the backdrop of a new unknown enemy being revealed to us.
It basically should follow the scale and scope of CE in a way: relatively small (against a bigger, deeper universe of course!), us alone against them etc.
And then in H5, the scope could and should be expanded (like what H2 did opposed to CE) and Elites can be brought back in either as enemies or as allies.

What I mean to say, is that H4 should explore the new setting with everything that comes with it quite intimately, without too much “extras” being brought in which would take away from the focus on Chief and Cortana in an unknown place against unknown enemies.

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> The Great Schism caused a split between many races in the Covenant. Mainly Grunts and Hunters sided with the Elites, and I think that alliance will remain throughout the Reclaimer Trilogy. All three races get along exceptionally well, and I’m sure they wouldn’t begin to fight amongst themselves like the Brutes eventually did. So, basically Hunters and Grunts will fight alongside the Elites during this new war, as they did before. It would be awesome to have Elite, Hunter, and Grunt allies throughout this new conflict, along with the Forerunners, wouldn’t it?

The Unggoy were the lowest ranking race in the Covenant, they were mistreated and often used as cannon fodder. The Mgalekgolo were forced in the covenant, threatened with the glassing of their home planet.

I think this would preclude these two races from being the Sangheili’s ‘new’ allies.