Elites in MM. A proposal.

Well… I think it would be best to at least give it a chance. Here’s how I think it could work…

Unlock all of the gametypes so that all of them are set to player preference in regard to your species.
Let the community play on them.
Find out what’s cheap and unbalanced… perhaps the elites have too much health… idk but I’m sure it can be lowered or countered by giving them weaker weapons or setting their weapon damage to 90 percent… idk up their bloom… you’re the boss:)
The community can report the gametypes that flat out WILL NOT work with elites in them or where the difference in species is way too noticeable or there’s just a huge advantage that can’t be ignored.

This will lead to more Elite friendly gametypes for those who would like to play as elites… might not be 50% of all games but just having that 30% chance is nice… I’m not really for elites to be honest… I love my spartans but if the community wants it… even a small portion of them… let them have it. And yeah, the small portion of players who play as elites wants them because not everyone does play as an elite… a majority of us are Spartans all the way… this is just my suggestion… I guess with the title update maybe you could add gametypes where Elites specifically have slightly lowered health… idk… I’m just getting the basics for the idea… I’ll let you and the community mold it… I have one he…ck of a headache…

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Elites’ higher hp, shields, hp regen and faster movement speed is to make up for their ridiculous hitboxes. 343 can’t change anything in Reach (that is, making Elites available in MM and changing a lot of things about them to make it fairer) without a major update, and any changes in CEA would make it incompatible with Reach.
Plus, Elites in Halo 3 were unbalanced even without higher hp and shields - their hitboxes alone gave them a huge advantage over spartans especially in playlists like SWAT.

And anyway, since the community asked for Elites to be removed/toned down from H3->Reach, I doubt 343 would add them back in H4.

Yeah… honestly I’m not much for them… but I keep hearing people complain about how that was “their halo” soo yeah… if anything just give them their own playlist… I just want to see them happy:/

If Elites were returned to MM, the community would rant about how annoying and/or overpowered they were. The community rarely knows what it wants.

That’s not a bad idea, but if the community decides it’s all bad, it’s back to the one playlist for elites. :frowning:

I like the idea of sangheili in MM. I play as one as much as possible. Besides, I’d like to crush into the little panzy spartans heads that, not only were we superior at birth, without or nooby genetic mods, but our high class is still more proficiant in melee and close qaurters combat. Plain and simply, even says so in the books. Master Cheif always runs when thy get close. (Not only that, but if you play on Legendary like I do, you know that melee isn’t an option, period. Because 6 melees to break an Elite’s shields isn’t anything compared to one kick to the face for a kill)

Really, I think they should just scale down Elites to the size of Spartans and give them Spartan traits. Multiplayer isn’t canon. Highlands is a place where red and blue Spartans fight over a flag while the Covenant glasses Reach, so why do we need actual size Elites?

I wouldn’t say every playlist OP. Swat and Snipers would obviously put elites at a disadvantage.
Just the more social playlists like BTB for instance.
I don’t see the Elites extra health/shield really being a problem though, considering they only take one more shot from a DMR/NR compared to Spartans.

That’s a fair tradeoff for the xbox huge hitboxes for the head and body, making even DMR spamming easier.

I want to be able to rank up next to my friendly elite friend. Have epic battles next to my friendly elite friends. And most importantly: Team slayer without forced color teams. I think the waypoint over my head is enough of a sign that i am friendly.

> I want to be able to rank up next to my friendly elite friend. Have epic battles next to my friendly elite friends. And most importantly: Team slayer without forced color teams. I think the waypoint over my head is enough of a sign that i am friendly.

If this were to happen, I think the waypoint should be green like it used to be.

> I wouldn’t say every playlist OP. Swat and Snipers would obviously put elites at a disadvantage.
> Just the more social playlists like BTB for instance.
> I don’t see the Elites extra health/shield really being a problem though, considering they only take one more shot from a DMR/NR compared to Spartans.
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> That’s a fair tradeoff for the xbox huge hitboxes for the head and body, making even DMR spamming easier.

mmm in this case I’d say perhaps they should up the damage so it still kills elites in the same amount of shots… I haven’t ever missed anyone by the amount of space that an Elite would’ve filled tbh… with an AR from 10 feet away… that’s a different story.

I would love to see Elites in MM. They should be allowed to be playable in every playlist except Arena, seeing as how that’s the only real “Ranked” playlist. Hell I’d even be happy to have Elite versions of all the playlists in MM. Elite Slayer, Elite Objective, Elite SWAT, Elite Snipers, etc…

In Halo 4, Elites should become a regular playable species again like in Halo 3. And for those people complaining about Elites in SWAT, how about we make SWAT a special playlist where you are forced to use the Spartan player model.

> In Halo 4, Elites should become a regular playable species again like in Halo 3. And for those people complaining about Elites in SWAT, how about we make SWAT a special playlist where you are forced to use the Spartan player model.

Or they can just change there species before they start…Some people wanna be elites in swat.

> > I want to be able to rank up next to my friendly elite friend. Have epic battles next to my friendly elite friends. And most importantly: Team slayer without forced color teams. I think the waypoint over my head is enough of a sign that i am friendly.
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> If this were to happen, I think the waypoint should be green like it used to be.

Yeah, than maybe it wouldn’t blend in with the damn sky all the time.

> > > I want to be able to rank up next to my friendly elite friend. Have epic battles next to my friendly elite friends. And most importantly: Team slayer without forced color teams. I think the waypoint over my head is enough of a sign that i am friendly.
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> > If this were to happen, I think the waypoint should be green like it used to be.
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> Yeah, than maybe it wouldn’t blend in with the damn sky all the time.

v.v in invasion I have to stare down vehicles for at least 10-15 seconds before I can even tell if they’re on my team or not… the waypoint doesn’t appear for quite some time… I don’t know why it takes so long… but if it’s an enemy it’s faster to appear red than if it’s a teammate… so I normally go off of hey it’s been six seconds and no waypoint… you’re my friend… but that’s bitten me in the butt before…

Would it really be hard to scale down their size in MM WITHOUT changing their shape? NOONE CARES about Canon in MP. It DOESNT EXIST.

If they just scaled the hitboxes and models down to Spartan size, and kept the exact shape the Elites are now. Noone could complain because in Reach they are shaped the exact same as a Spartan unless carrying a Sword.

And even as they are now, just leave them out of MLG, Grifball, SWAT, Arena, and Snipers. Put them in everything else. Who can complain? They aren’t in ANY of the hyper-competitively played playlists.

I had friends that refused to buy Halo Reach because Elites, which had been an enormous part of their Halo 2 and 3 experiences, weren’t in Matchmaking. They don’t play Halo anymore. Not to mention entire clans that were based around playing as Elites in Matchmaking were either destroyed, forced to keep playing Halo 3, or forced to change their clan to a completely different theme.