ELITES IN HALO 4 Matchmaking

In Halo 2/ Halo 3 we could switch between humans and elites with any game type. However in Reach this was not possible, due to the complaints of the elite being abused for hit boxes, people thought they were stronger, and just being in SWAT. So we were only aloud to play as elites in a few games… elite slayer, invasion, custom games, ect.

Now in Halo 4, I think the elites should make a full return, weather cannon related or not. Now the elites would have to be dumbed down to calm the community. Make the elites and spartans equal with health, same load outs ( if there are any), and using the reach elite the hit boxes will be more equal then before. And then they would be taken out of only a few game types, such as SWAT.

What do you guys think?

Even though i despise them, they don’t destroy gameplay so im all for it.

> Even though i despise them, they don’t destroy gameplay so im all for it.

Yeah the thing i hated about halo 3 is that all the elites looked like dogs and seemed only 8 year olds would use em

No, I disagree. I think we need to accept that Elites and Spartans are just to different to be considered equal. Elites should get more use in MM games (like Invasion or maybe SvE slayer Action Sack), but pretending that they are the same as Spartans in terms of Hitboxes, health, and size is ridiculous.

I think elites should be replaced by forerunners. It would add a nice change. Frankie did say that Halo 4 will have big changes and that would be a big change.

> > Even though i despise them, they don’t destroy gameplay so im all for it.
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> Yeah the thing i hated about halo 3 is that all the elites looked like dogs and seemed only 8 year olds would use em

I really only saw elites in swat at a level 30. i don’t mind them i would love to see everything go back to the way it was in halo 3.

i loved killing elites in H3 <3

Solution:

[/li]- Let players pick from Spartans, Elites, Brutes, Forerunners, etc.

  • Different species have small differences in gameplay.
  • Have a setting when customizing gametypes that makes all species have equal stats, thus allowing different species to be played with no differences.
  • Said setting option would be used in most matchmaking games, but not all.
  • ???
  • Profit.

> I think elites should be replaced by forerunners. It would add a nice change. Frankie did say that Halo 4 will have big changes and that would be a big change.

spartan and forerunner being diff player models is not even necessary they are already so similar that forerunner armor should be an armor for spartans, no sense in making a diff species that is also humanoid and looks alot like a human be a diff player model

but the reach hitbox would make it unbalanced because the hitbox is bigger…? and in reach the reason you cant play as them all of the time is because their shields and health are different. in halo 2/3 the hitboxes for spartans and elites were the exact same they just look different

Halo 2 Elites were perfect, imo.

I think they should somehow put the elites into matchmaking, whether or not they need to alter the model, but then maybe make an explanation, like they are a smaller race of elites while the elites you fight in campaign are bigger elites or something, and allow both sizes of elites for some gamemodes but for balance only use smaller ones for slayer and stuff.

OP :

move all this to

http://halo.xbox.com/Forums/yaf_postst63353_Sangheili--Elites--In-Halo-4-Matchmaking.aspx

as this is a much longer topic and post as this is just a v2 topic

I just want them to be playable. I’m sure 343 is able to make them balanced. They’re game designers. that’s what they do. Please 343, make elites playable. It would be awesome!

> In Halo 2/ Halo 3 we could switch between humans and elites with any game type. However in Reach this was not possible, due to the complaints of the elite being abused for hit boxes, people thought they were stronger, and just being in SWAT. So we were only aloud to play as elites in a few games… elite slayer, invasion, custom games, ect.
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> Now in Halo 4, I think the elites should make a full return, weather cannon related or not. Now the elites would have to be dumbed down to calm the community. Make the elites and spartans equal with health, same load outs ( if there are any), and using the reach elite the hit boxes will be more equal then before. And then they would be taken out of only a few game types, such as SWAT.
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> What do you guys think?

First Elites play a minor role in the game. You will only kill in my guess only under thirty in the whole game, why implement something that has so little meaning to the game. Also Elites still cant be in Halo 4’s custom games because custom games are still simulated through the Infinity, don’t forget that Infinity is ALL about training Spartan IVs against each other. Also if you add Elites in matchmaking then you would have to add A LOT more armor permutations to fit the Elites, this in turn would delay Halo 4’s release.

> > In Halo 2/ Halo 3 we could switch between humans and elites with any game type. However in Reach this was not possible, due to the complaints of the elite being abused for hit boxes, people thought they were stronger, and just being in SWAT. So we were only aloud to play as elites in a few games… elite slayer, invasion, custom games, ect.
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> > Now in Halo 4, I think the elites should make a full return, weather cannon related or not. Now the elites would have to be dumbed down to calm the community. Make the elites and spartans equal with health, same load outs ( if there are any), and using the reach elite the hit boxes will be more equal then before. And then they would be taken out of only a few game types, such as SWAT.
> >
> > What do you guys think?
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> First Elites play a minor role in the game. You will only kill in my guess only under thirty in the whole game, why implement something that has so little meaning to the game. Also Elites still cant be in Halo 4’s custom games because custom games are still simulated through the Infinity, don’t forget that Infinity is ALL about training Spartan IVs against each other. Also if you add Elites in matchmaking then you would have to add A LOT more armor permutations to fit the Elites, this in turn would delay Halo 4’s release.

Who gives a -Yoink- about canon in multiplayer and customs?! (Customs even more so!) Bring the elites back!

> Even though i despise them, they don’t destroy gameplay so im all for it.

as long as there not in RANKED im fine…

But 343 said NO to them IN MM

Sorry

> > > Even though i despise them, they don’t destroy gameplay so im all for it.
> >
> > Yeah the thing i hated about halo 3 is that all the elites looked like dogs and seemed only 8 year olds would use em
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> I really only saw elites in swat at a level 30. i don’t mind them i would love to see everything go back to the way it was in halo 3.

Really? I was a SWAT 50 and I saw Elite in every game…

That being said I don’t want them changed much from the H3 Elites.

From what I saw in GI they look like hunchbacks again which suggests they’ll be in Social games.

I’m not impressed with the H4 Elites so far.

I <3 THE ELITES :*( * crys * i only bought reach for the elites X_X

I want my Elite back desperately. There is no logical reason not to have them, I want to be an Elite again.

Instead of making the Elites hunched, just shrink them, then there aren’t any hitbox issues…

Don’t know why they didn’t just shrink the Elites for MP in Halo 3.