Elites are enemies in halo 4 ???

I think some elites might be enemies in halo 4 because in halo glasslands there are some elites who are against the arbiter and still believe in the great journey… ?

I going with no.

That would make sense, just because the covenant armada was annihilated does not mean there are still believers out there. Hell before h4 was announced I had a strong belief that the arbiter was going to find the chief floating in space and require his assistance in reuniting his home world by ending the civil war amongst elites. Either way lets not completely demolish the idea from the elites returning in the new halo trilogy.

You may or may not see some of the Covenant species as enemies, as they still live and not everyone agrees, but as for the overall main antagonist it’s not likely. If you watch the CEA Terminals it’ll explain better.

They have no purpose venturing out into deep space to look for Chief. None. They have a brewing civil war, war with the Brutes and Sangheilos is under attack, probably from the Brutes.

> They have no purpose venturing out into deep space to look for Chief. None. They have a brewing civil war, war with the Brutes and Sangheilos is under attack, probably from the Brutes.

I agree to a certain extent, but just as MC is pulled in to the planet, other ships could have been as well. We have no idea what life forms could be on this new world. I mean there could still be Covenant loyalists who have no idea the war is over.

The Great Schism was broadcasted through the fleets, unlikely.

> The Great Schism was broadcasted through the fleets, unlikely.

I take it you’ve read the comic Bloodlines right? Black team crash lands on planet after being pulled towards eerily similar to MC, and just like Black Team so was a few Covenant vessels. They couldn’t signal for help and didn’t couldn’t receive any kind of transmissions. It’s VERY likely crashed vessels could be barely thriving with no communication to the outside world, and EVEN if they did, doesn’t mean they still wouldn’t attack the UNSC. Like I said, they will not be the main antagonist, but they could be canon fodder leading up to the main baddie.

Making them fodder only ruins the Great Schism even more than Glasslands did by making every Elite seemingly hellbent on killing off humanity. Sure, we could go with the unimaginative route where “Oh, these guys are stranded Convent so you must fight them”. It’s rather weak and only shoehorns in a species that isn’t needed.

Honestly I hate Elites, always have, I enjoy killing them though. I’m just saying as Elites are a part of the Halo Universe, I don’t see them NOT making an appearance, and in Glasslands not all Elites want to kill off the Human species, just like with any conflict there are those who still believe in the goals they fought so hard for, and there are those who just don’t care one way or another. It’s not ruining anything, just merely not making everyone buddy-buddy which would be incredibly ridiculous after fighting a bloody war for so long.

> Honestly I hate Elites, always have, I enjoy killing them though. I’m just saying as Elites are a part of the Halo Universe, I don’t see them NOT making an appearance, and in Glasslands not all Elites want to kill off the Human species, just like with any conflict there are those who still believe in the goals they fought so hard for, and there are those who just don’t care one way or another. It’s not ruining anything, just merely not making everyone buddy-buddy which would be incredibly ridiculous after fighting a bloody war for so long.

A bit of an exaggeration on my part, but the majority of major Elite characters in Glasslands are anti-human. And while I don’t expect a buddy-buddy relationship, the tension is overwhelming hostile in the novel.

Honestly, if I were to incorporate the Elites, I’d give them a more dignified role. I would keep them out of Halo 4, establish the Ancient Evil, have the Ancient Evil’s forces cross over into the novels and have the Elites and humanity confront it, maybe team up once again, and then bring each faction into the new trilogy.

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Would make epic scenes like this.

> > They have no purpose venturing out into deep space to look for Chief. None. They have a brewing civil war, war with the Brutes and Sangheilos is under attack, probably from the Brutes.
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> I agree to a certain extent, but just as MC is pulled in to the planet, other ships could have been as well. We have no idea what life forms could be on this new world. I mean there could still be Covenant loyalists who have no idea the war is over.

thank you good sir!! I’ve thought about this before and it seems quite likely if you ask me!

It’s an idea for sure, but honestly, I really think 343 should prove itself by using their new enemy, not riding off the coattails of established enemies.

Well after reading all of the answers to this question i think there will be some elites and brutes possibly

But why exactly? In the canon, the Elites and Brutes are fighting each other until 2559. Their presence doesn’t add anything. Before 343 starts adding in the old creatures we know, they should prove they can make new enemies.

> But why exactly? In the canon, the Elites and Brutes are fighting each other until 2559. Their presence doesn’t add anything. Before 343 starts adding in the old creatures we know, they should prove they can make new enemies.

Agreed COMPLETELY, but like I said earlier, they are still a part of the universe, you’ll see them in some way or another as they aren’t just deleted from our minds, they’ll be there, and probably play a role in the story in some way.

That’s why I made my suggestion above. Bring them in around Halo 5 or 6, but have them fight the same enemy that Chief faces in the new novels Karen Traviss is writing. After the next novel or so, they can retrace Chief’s steps.