So I haven’t read Mortal Dictata or any of the Kilo-5 books, but I heard from a friend that in the 3rd book. A female Skirmisher was able to kill two Sangheili and my question is how is the hell is that even possible. Can someone please tell me how that is even possible. Is it just me or is 343 trying to make the Elites look they are weaker than they really are?
Halo 3: ODST. Able to go through an army of brutes.
A 5 year old with a fuel-rod cannon could kill an elite. Guns are guns, they kill things. Its not like she wrestled them or something. Even if she did, she probably got the drop on them.
It doesn’t happen directly in the novel, I think its just lightly mentioned in how she acquired her ship during the Great Schism.
> A 5 year old with a fuel-rod cannon could kill an elite. Guns are guns, they kill things. Its not like she wrestled them or something. Even if she did, she probably got the drop on them.
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> It doesn’t happen directly in the novel, I think its just lightly mentioned in how she acquired her ship during the Great Schism.
Avoiding the things wrong with this comment, if it was during the Great Schism a Skirmisher would probably have been able to best even two Sangheili; most if not all Sangheili were distraught during and after the Schism and few would have been thinking straight, some wouldn’t even have been armed half the time, and a Kig-Yar can be both cunning and fast if the situation requires it. It’d wouldn’t have been an easy fight by any means, but yeah, she probably could have beaten two of them.
Just barely though.
Skirmishers are a Jackal subspecies, right? And the Great Schism began during the events of Halo 2?
Halo 2 Jackal snipers. The Skirmisher in question found a Beam Rifle somewhere and sniped both Elite guards before they even had the slightest inkling of a sniper being in the vicinity.
> Skirmishers are a Jackal subspecies, right? And the Great Schism began during the events of Halo 2?
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> Halo 2 Jackal snipers. The Skirmisher in question found a Beam Rifle somewhere and sniped both Elite guards before they even had the slightest inkling of a sniper being in the vicinity.
While I know this is a halo 2 joke, it gets at pretty much what I’m saying. Just because the elites are big and tough doesn’t make them magically immune to weapons fired by smaller, weaker things.
Especially since this particular Skirmisher was already a member of the ship, there is quite a number of ways she could have gotten the drop on them and killed them. She could have vented their atmosphere, beam rifled them while there guard was down, or even surprise stuck them with plasma grenades.
> > Skirmishers are a Jackal subspecies, right? And the Great Schism began during the events of Halo 2?
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> > Halo 2 Jackal snipers. The Skirmisher in question found a Beam Rifle somewhere and sniped both Elite guards before they even had the slightest inkling of a sniper being in the vicinity.
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> While I know this is a halo 2 joke, it gets at pretty much what I’m saying. Just because the elites are big and tough doesn’t make them magically immune to weapons fired by smaller, weaker things.
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> Especially since this particular Skirmisher was already a member of the ship, there is quite a number of ways she could have gotten the drop on them and killed them. She could have vented their atmosphere, beam rifled them while there guard was down, or even surprise stuck them with plasma grenades.
They actually totally are immune to weapons fired by smaller, weaker things though.
Shields 
But really, a Beam Rifle seems a little risky doesn’t it? Unless she gets two headshot she’s gonna be fighting two very pissed off Sangheili. I think a Needler would work better.
Most Kig-Yar are of similar size and strength of a Human, so you have the T’vao race of Kig-Yar (Skirmishers) who are even more agile and capable. I don’t find it impossible for a T’vao Kig-Yar to take down two Sangheili head-on, but it’s more likely that she had the element of surprise on her side. But we lack details of the event itself so I wouldn’t think too hard about it.
As a whole I am glad to see that Kig-Yar are getting a lot more attention as of late. They are really more advanced and intelligent than the games show them as. They have their own ships and weapons that we haven’t seen, anarcho-capitalistic society, a habit of becoming mercenaries and pirates, and have even been seen co-existing with Humans in more than one instance.
I read through the book. That never happened.
> Skirmishers are a Jackal subspecies, right? And the Great Schism began during the events of Halo 2?
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> Halo 2 Jackal snipers. The Skirmisher in question found a Beam Rifle somewhere and sniped both Elite guards before they even had the slightest inkling of a sniper being in the vicinity.
There are different types of Kig-Yar, their race is like evolution of reptile to bird. So there are the ones in 4, skirmishes, the more chicken ones. So more reptilian, more vulture and more chicken ones.
> They actually totally are immune to weapons fired by smaller, weaker things though.
> Shields
A fueld rod cannon fired by a grunt does as much damage as one fired by a brute. The real difference there is skill. Nor are sidearms in halo particularly weak outside of halo 2’s pistol.
> But really, a Beam Rifle seems a little risky doesn’t it? Unless she gets two headshot she’s gonna be fighting two very pissed off Sangheili. I think a Needler would work better.
Two rapid shots is usually enough to kill most. The needler would probably be the best weapon for it, I agree. You could pull it quickly enough and have them both supercombine in the chaos.
> Skirmishers are a Jackal subspecies, right? And the Great Schism began during the events of Halo 2?
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> Halo 2 Jackal snipers. The Skirmisher in question found a Beam Rifle somewhere and sniped both Elite guards before they even had the slightest inkling of a sniper being in the vicinity.
Dear lord, those Jackal snipers in Halo 2 were evil. You get to a spot you think is safe because you don’t see any enemies around and suddenly you are dead because of a sniper. Skirmishers are essentially a much more dinosaur like Kig-Yar subspecies so I can see them using beam rifles and they can use the needle and focus rifles so why wouldn’t they be able to use a beam rifle?
Also being a big and powerful Elite does not mean you can’t be taken down by something smaller and weaker physically than you. When I see this scenario I think of David vs Goliath.
Goliath was huge, menacing, and strong while David was smaller than him considerably. Like David the Skirmisher would most likely have an advantage in speed and mobility compared to something bigger than them. If size and strength were what decided combat then humans would automatically lose when the Hunters are deployed.
> <mark>humans would automatically lose when the Hunters are deployed.</mark>
I don’t think humans are a fair comparison…as you know canon kinda swings their way coughRipa vs forgecough coughbrute chieftans hammer blades gets semi blocked by a sniper rifle barrel that…WOULD HAVE SNAPPED IN HALF FROM EVERYTHING WE KNOW about brutes.but hey oh and…cough
On topic I feel like just as the humans 1 skirmisher luck is a real factor at times, is not that big of a deal you wanna talk about a joke and making the Sangheili look dumb motions you towards curtain 1 “lets see what is behind curtain one” pulls a rope parting the curtains revealing halo wars
> > <mark>humans would automatically lose when the Hunters are deployed.</mark>
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> I don’t think humans are a fair comparison…as you know canon kinda swings their way coughRipa vs forgecough coughbrute chieftans hammer blades gets semi blocked by a sniper rifle barrel that…WOULD HAVE SNAPPED IN HALF FROM EVERYTHING WE KNOW about brutes.but hey oh and…cough
Ripa vs Forge does not really count when Forge used Ripa’s own sword against him, stabbed him in the neck, shot him multiple times if I am not mistaken as for the gravity hammer being blocked by the sniper I will give you that one.
> Ripa vs Forge does not really count when Forge used Ripa’s own sword against him, stabbed him in the neck, shot him multiple times if I am not mistaken as for the gravity hammer being blocked by the sniper I will give you that one.
In that cut scene I am refering to how slow ripa was during that engagement as opposed to a cutscene in the same game where he uppercuts forge mighty quick with his sword…also if you watch it there is no reason he should have hit the generator to the left of them with is one sword like anyone who knows how to use the sword (which ripa does) makes no sense if he was trying to impale forge he would not come at that angle and the angle also suggests he was not trying to slash at him.
Then the belly punch he does to forge would have killed him (seriously)
> > Ripa vs Forge does not really count when Forge used Ripa’s own sword against him, stabbed him in the neck, shot him multiple times if I am not mistaken as for the gravity hammer being blocked by the sniper I will give you that one.
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> In that cut scene I am refering to how slow ripa was during that engagement as opposed to a cutscene in the same game where he uppercuts forge mighty quick with his sword…also if you watch it there is no reason he should have hit the generator to the left of them with is one sword like anyone who knows how to use the sword (which ripa does) makes no sense if he was trying to impale forge he would not come at that angle and the angle also suggests he was not trying to slash at him.
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> Then the belly punch he does to forge would have killed him (seriously)
To be fair Ripa was angry and probably not thinking the way he should have been thinking.
> To be fair Ripa was angry and probably not thinking the way he should have been thinking.
Valid point but you understand my point don’t you?
On the topic of Forge vs. Ripa
Related Video; Forge getting punched.
Anyways, note the fact that Forge was pretty obviously hurt by that hit, and that Ripa was using his shot fist. The punch also hit Forge’s ballistic armor, which no doubt softened the blow. If you note how Forge acts, he’s also very wounded by the blow.