Effects of armor abilities on BTS are horrid.

Recently ive been playing with really good teams in Big team skirmish against other really good teams, and just how abusable the AAs are has became evident.

1: Jetpack on Valhalla and Longbow: The cheap angles and flying on top of cliffs and roofs makes it impossible to push, leading to a campy game. These players also usually get atleast the first 2-3 shots, since they are at an awkward/unconventional angle.

2: Invis on ANY ctf map. This is just unbearable, everytime i fight through the enemies lines, i get to their flag and my radar turns into a sea of blue. Its just an impenetrable force. Litterally over 80% of my ctf games end in ties due to these invisible campers.

I litterally wish i took a picture of this one game on valhalla. Litterally 70% of my radar was blocked out. Just from these invisible campers.

3: Jetpack against gernades, incinator cannon, and rockets: Jetpack is such an easy counter its hardly fair. Its impossible to use these. And you cant even wait for them to run out of jetpack, as anyone with decent aim can kill you long before they hit the ground.

4: Invis with sniper: Me and my team have gotten pretty good at controlling the map, even with the other team using all camo. But the camo sniper is unbelievable cheap. Many games where weve controlled the map their stats will be something like:

+2
-1
-6
-10
+18
-14
-12
-7

Try to guess which one is always the invis sniper.

5: Prometheum vision in regicide: This makes going for king suicide, and any game ends up as a regular slayer match with the king camping. The king is impossible to sneak up on, and all pushes are made instantly aware to the other team. The bad part is, only a couple people need this AA for the whole team to benefit, since all the PV users need to do is call out the information.

Im just so sick of these abilities used in such cheap manners. Its litterally the deciding factor when the teams are so even and stagnates gameplay. It makes ctf end in ties and regicide lasts for ever due to no kings dieing.

Promethean Vision in general should be made a pick-up or power-up on the map. Invisibility, at least from my experience, hasn’t been that big a problem. However it is rather annoying when the whole team uses it. It can be cheap on CTF. The jetpack just seems like a personal gripe. It should be a rule of thumb to not fire a rocket launcher at a jetpacker and you need to lead the shot with the Incineration Cannon. Otherwise switch to your DMR or BR and take the guy out. I assure you they’re easy targets.

We neeeeeeed Legendary Big Team Battle. That would fix all of awful Infinity BTB’s problems.

> Promethean Vision in general should be made a pick-up or power-up on the map. Invisibility, at least from my experience, hasn’t been that big a problem. However it is rather annoying when the whole team uses it. It can be cheap on CTF. The jetpack just seems like a personal gripe. I<mark>t should be a rule of thumb to not fire a rocket launcher at a jetpacker and you need to lead the shot with the Incineration Cannon.</mark> Otherwise switch to your DMR or BR and take the guy out. I assure you they’re easy targets.

That right there shows how easy of a counter it is! Your advice is just not to use it. You shouldnt spawn with an anti rocket ability.

Secondly, i know. Thats the point, they become useless. And by the time you see them jetpacking, you switch to your weapon and theyve already got the first few shots on you.

Honestly, the only people who are easy to take out with jetpack are the people who use it stupidly. Playing someone who knows how to actually use it is a pain in the -Yoink-.

> We neeeeeeed Legendary Big Team Battle. That would fix all of awful Infinity BTB’s problems.

Yeaaa and i wish BTS and BTB would merge into one playlist :frowning: The population in BTS is too low for To8 unless its a weekend.

> > We neeeeeeed Legendary Big Team Battle. That would fix all of awful Infinity BTB’s problems.
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> Yeaaa and i wish BTS and BTB would merge into one playlist :frowning: The population in BTS is too low for To8 unless its a weekend.

This. Why 343 chose to have them as separate playlists, I will never know.

> > > We neeeeeeed Legendary Big Team Battle. That would fix all of awful Infinity BTB’s problems.
> >
> > Yeaaa and i wish BTS and BTB would merge into one playlist :frowning: The population in BTS is too low for To8 unless its a weekend.
>
> This. Why 343 chose to have them as separate playlists, I will never know.

Well i think the reason is one is individual rank, and one is team/win ranked.

But the individual rank hardly means anything anyways…just make it all w/l and assign the BTS rank.