So as we have seen in Halo Wars 2 you can move Halos. So why couldn’t you just move one away from humanity and lead covenant to it and let them activate it lol. Thoughts?
I would say largely because 1) it was less than a year from the discovery of the first halo to the end of the war 2) to use another halo they would first need to find another halo, their locations were kept hidden from 1 another as a safety precaution 3) risk of flood outbreak is 2 high, since you’d have to send someone down to the ring 4) it’s a 1 way trip for @ least 1 person, a reclaimer needs to activate the index personally & lastly 5) because those things have some raaaaaange lol guilty spark throws out a random number, which I’m sure I’ll get wrong, but it was like 1.3 or 1.7 radii from galactic center for installation 04’s range. That’s alooooot lol
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> I would say largely because 1) it was less than a year from the discovery of the first halo to the end of the war 2) to use another halo they would first need to find another halo, their locations were kept hidden from 1 another as a safety precaution 3) risk of flood outbreak is 2 high, since you’d have to send someone down to the ring 4) it’s a 1 way trip for @ least 1 person, a reclaimer needs to activate the index personally & lastly 5) because those things have some raaaaaange lol guilty spark throws out a random number, which I’m sure I’ll get wrong, but it was like 1.3 or 1.7 radii from galactic center for installation 04’s range. That’s alooooot lol
2)The hidden part wouldn’t be a problem. When they were on delta Halo it showed the other rings. 3) flood containment areas were separate from ring control areas. 4) Any Spartan would make the trip. 5) That’s why I said away from humanity. It takes all 7 rings to take out galaxy, so 1 in theory should only take out 1/7 of the galaxy. I’m pretty sure there are still lots of uncharted parts of galaxy.
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> > I would say largely because 1) it was less than a year from the discovery of the first halo to the end of the war 2) to use another halo they would first need to find another halo, their locations were kept hidden from 1 another as a safety precaution 3) risk of flood outbreak is 2 high, since you’d have to send someone down to the ring 4) it’s a 1 way trip for @ least 1 person, a reclaimer needs to activate the index personally & lastly 5) because those things have some raaaaaange lol guilty spark throws out a random number, which I’m sure I’ll get wrong, but it was like 1.3 or 1.7 radii from galactic center for installation 04’s range. That’s alooooot lol
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> 2)The hidden part wouldn’t be a problem. When they were on delta Halo it showed the other rings. 3) flood containment areas were separate from ring control areas. 4) Any Spartan would make the trip. 5) That’s why I said away from humanity. It takes all 7 rings to take out galaxy, so 1 in theory should only take out 1/7 of the galaxy. I’m pretty sure there are still lots of uncharted parts of galaxy.
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> So as we have seen in Halo Wars 2 you can move Halos. So why couldn’t you just move one away from humanity and lead covenant to it and let them activate it lol. Thoughts?
Because without the index, you can’t activate the rings. I think after the war, the UNSC/ONI made it a priority to locate all 7 and retrieve their indexes. As for as moving the Halos, the people on board the Spirit of Fire were the only ones who knew how to do that as far as we know, so until they can relay that information when/if they get back for debrief, it will still remain a mystery.
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> > I would say largely because 1) it was less than a year from the discovery of the first halo to the end of the war 2) to use another halo they would first need to find another halo, their locations were kept hidden from 1 another as a safety precaution 3) risk of flood outbreak is 2 high, since you’d have to send someone down to the ring 4) it’s a 1 way trip for @ least 1 person, a reclaimer needs to activate the index personally & lastly 5) because those things have some raaaaaange lol guilty spark throws out a random number, which I’m sure I’ll get wrong, but it was like 1.3 or 1.7 radii from galactic center for installation 04’s range. That’s alooooot lol
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> 2)The hidden part wouldn’t be a problem. When they were on delta Halo it showed the other rings. 3) flood containment areas were separate from ring control areas. 4) Any Spartan would make the trip. 5) That’s why I said away from humanity. It takes all 7 rings to take out galaxy, so 1 in theory should only take out 1/7 of the galaxy. I’m pretty sure there are still lots of uncharted parts of galaxy.
- Your right, I was forgetting that delta halo did have a map for some reason. However that would tie back in to my point 1)of not enough time to plan and conduct the op. 3) they were separate areas, however both visited rings had flood outbreaks, it’s not unreasonable to assume 1 could happen again. 4) plenty of soldiers would volunteer, not just spartans, but most military minds frown upon launching literal suicide missions. That said if they did that mission has S-III written all over it. Suicide mission was their forte. 5) my understanding was that is the range of 1 ring, and all the rings were needed for full effect, which was extermination of all known life that could sustain the flood. So my point wasn’t in ignorance of your statement to moving it outside of humanity, it was to illustrate the sheer distance required to do so. Also I was talkin with my buddy about this and he helped me with a point 6) humanity didn’t really have much capacity to lure the covenant places or dictate time and place of battles. They were fighting a largely defensive war. Now I suppose off the top of my head, they could have flown a ghost ship into known covenant space with a fake ai containing the location of a newly discovered halo ring as a trap. But that also overlooks a point 7) I would assume at that time they didnt know how to move a halo using its own controls and the logistics of gettin enough ships or slipsapce engines would have made it impractical to impossible.
Now all this said I just wanna say, this was an interesting and creative idea, 1 I never thought of. I know posts with back and forth/debate can come off confrontational, that’s not my intent. I really enjoyed thinking through the logistics of this plan, especially because creativity spawns more creativity. Like this idea made me think how much do you wanna bet those oni spooks are trying to reverse engineer a halo to make mini halos. Think about it, forget nukes when you can slip into system, eject a micro halo, and then it can be remote detonated after the ship re enters slipspace. Now all life in that star system is gone.
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> > > I would say largely because 1) it was less than a year from the discovery of the first halo to the end of the war 2) to use another halo they would first need to find another halo, their locations were kept hidden from 1 another as a safety precaution 3) risk of flood outbreak is 2 high, since you’d have to send someone down to the ring 4) it’s a 1 way trip for @ least 1 person, a reclaimer needs to activate the index personally & lastly 5) because those things have some raaaaaange lol guilty spark throws out a random number, which I’m sure I’ll get wrong, but it was like 1.3 or 1.7 radii from galactic center for installation 04’s range. That’s alooooot lol
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> > 2)The hidden part wouldn’t be a problem. When they were on delta Halo it showed the other rings. 3) flood containment areas were separate from ring control areas. 4) Any Spartan would make the trip. 5) That’s why I said away from humanity. It takes all 7 rings to take out galaxy, so 1 in theory should only take out 1/7 of the galaxy. I’m pretty sure there are still lots of uncharted parts of galaxy.
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> 2) Your right, I was forgetting that delta halo did have a map for some reason. However that would tie back in to my point 1)of not enough time to plan and conduct the op. 3) they were separate areas, however both visited rings had flood outbreaks, it’s not unreasonable to assume 1 could happen again. 4) plenty of soldiers would volunteer, not just spartans, but most military minds frown upon launching literal suicide missions. That said if they did that mission has S-III written all over it. Suicide mission was their forte. 5) my understanding was that is the range of 1 ring, and all the rings were needed for full effect, which was extermination of all known life that could sustain the flood. So my point wasn’t in ignorance of your statement to moving it outside of humanity, it was to illustrate the sheer distance required to do so. Also I was talkin with my buddy about this and he helped me with a point 6) humanity didn’t really have much capacity to lure the covenant places or dictate time and place of battles. They were fighting a largely defensive war. Now I suppose off the top of my head, they could have flown a ghost ship into known covenant space with a fake ai containing the location of a newly discovered halo ring as a trap. But that also overlooks a point 7) I would assume at that time they didnt know how to move a halo using its own controls and the logistics of gettin enough ships or slipsapce engines would have made it impractical to impossible.
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> Now all this said I just wanna say, this was an interesting and creative idea, 1 I never thought of. I know posts with back and forth/debate can come off confrontational, that’s not my intent. I really enjoyed thinking through the logistics of this plan, especially because creativity spawns more creativity. Like this idea made me think how much do you wanna bet those oni spooks are trying to reverse engineer a halo to make mini halos. Think about it, forget nukes when you can slip into system, eject a micro halo, and then it can be remote detonated after the ship re enters slipspace. Now all life in that star system is gone.
Yes I agree its nice to have a friendly debate. 1) Ya there really wasn’t much time. 3) Ya its safe to assume they would unleash flood again. 4) Yes it really would be an SIII mission. 6) Humanity was pretty crafty hence winning the war outnumbered and outgunned. 7) I’m sure Cortana could easily figure it out. And I never thought of reverse engineering a Halo. ONI would be the division to do it.
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> So as we have seen in Halo Wars 2 you can move Halos. So why couldn’t you just move one away from humanity and lead covenant to it and let them activate it lol. Thoughts?
I would say take the ring to the Ark, but I remembered that wouldn’t be such a good idea. That’s a good plan though
Humanity was on the brink of defeat.
Reach, the pinnacle of UNSC military might, had fallen to the Covenant. The only known Halo in the galaxy was destroyed by the Master Chief, and the UNSC was aware that the Covenant had located Earth.
It just wasn’t a known possibility, and if it was, the clock had run out for the UNSC anyways.
The Covenant invaded Earth triggering a series of events that led to the Great Schism. Humanity barely escaped destruction at Earth due to them allying with the Elites forces led by the Arbiter, and the Covenant were defeated without need for Humanity to use Halo.
Unfortunately it was never going to be a possibility.
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> Humanity was on the brink of defeat.
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> Reach, the pinnacle of UNSC military might, had fallen to the Covenant. The only known Halo in the galaxy was destroyed by the Master Chief, and the UNSC was aware that the Covenant had located Earth.
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> It just wasn’t a known possibility, and if it was, the clock had run out for the UNSC anyways.
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> The Covenant invaded Earth triggering a series of events that led to the Great Schism. Humanity barely escaped destruction at Earth due to them allying with the Elites forces led by the Arbiter, and the Covenant were defeated without need for Humanity to use Halo.
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> Unfortunately it was never going to be a possibility.
Well humanity knew about delta Halo, but there was no way they could take it from covenant unless they snuck in with a prowler.
They had no idea where the others were until the end of Halo 2, by which time such an expedition would be pointless and virtually impossible to undertake. And aside from that, how would they know how to move the Halo? (assuming it could move on its own; do we know it’s not the Ark that moves them?) How do you attract the entire Covenant there? I just don’t think it was ever feasible.
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> > Humanity was on the brink of defeat.
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> > Reach, the pinnacle of UNSC military might, had fallen to the Covenant. The only known Halo in the galaxy was destroyed by the Master Chief, and the UNSC was aware that the Covenant had located Earth.
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> > It just wasn’t a known possibility, and if it was, the clock had run out for the UNSC anyways.
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> > The Covenant invaded Earth triggering a series of events that led to the Great Schism. Humanity barely escaped destruction at Earth due to them allying with the Elites forces led by the Arbiter, and the Covenant were defeated without need for Humanity to use Halo.
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> Well humanity knew about delta Halo, but there was no way they could take it from covenant unless they snuck in with a prowler.
That’s really not a possibility.
Shortly after Delta Halo was discovered the Flood breached the Quarantine Zone and the Great Schism began which eventually resulted in an Elite fleet glassing the ring.
I’m not even sure if Earth recieved the news of Delta Halos discovery before the Great Schism began.