Early game woes

I keep getting my butt kicked in the early game. Most of my losses happen within the first 10 minutes of the game.
How do I be more aggressive? I struggle to get map control and struggle even more to put on early pressure.
I main Atriox, and start by building a chopper to collect energy, 2 harvesters, a power extractor, another chopper to go scout, harvester, and another power extractor. I also build mini bases with harvesters during this time, and try to produce early game choppers for map control

This hasn’t worked for me at all, doing this put me on an 8 loss streak.

How do y’all open, and what tips can y’all give me?

Hmm…what else do you do in the early game? Build loads of Turrets? Grunts? Choppers?

Exploit them cheap shields, and banshees like the rest of the atriox players…

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> Hmm…what else do you do in the early game? Build loads of Turrets? Grunts? Choppers?

I build choppers. Actually had the thought when writing this to build turrets, not sure why I didn’t think of it sooner. Usually i try to get a shield gen asap. I don’t build alot of early grunts anymore, usually they get rekt by choppers.

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> > Hmm…what else do you do in the early game? Build loads of Turrets? Grunts? Choppers?
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> I build choppers. Actually had the thought when writing this to build turrets, not sure why I didn’t think of it sooner. Usually i try to get a shield gen asap. I don’t build alot of early grunts anymore, usually they get rekt by choppers.

Yeah Chopper spam will slaughter them. How many mini-bases do you usually have?

Sometimes you win sometimes you lose :).
Your build order is not bad imo, but if you really want to be agressive you have to delay your 2nd GEN.

Example, I do SUPP*3, GEN, upgrade GEN, SUPP or barRAX, MINI+SUPP and/or MINI+RAX, constant marines pump in the meantime with flamers.
If opponent if teching I push hard, at least I try to take out important buildings/expos, if I feel he’s gonna destroy my army in any kind of way, I fallback and only then I build 2nd GEN and turrets. Upgrade 2nd GEN, upgrade a couple of SUPP …

How do you react according to what you see from the opponent ?

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> > > 2533274927740213;2:
> > > Hmm…what else do you do in the early game? Build loads of Turrets? Grunts? Choppers?
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> > I build choppers. Actually had the thought when writing this to build turrets, not sure why I didn’t think of it sooner. Usually i try to get a shield gen asap. I don’t build alot of early grunts anymore, usually they get rekt by choppers.
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> Yeah Chopper spam will slaughter them. How many mini-bases do you usually have?

Usually 2-3, depends on map

I would say its really hard to win as banished without going engineers- either skitter engineers or chopper engineers (go generator first and then apex 5th either way). Does wonders for early game map control as enemy choppers cant effectively target them and the shields are insane. Also, dont ram first unless its like an isolated chopper. Wait for them to ram then ram into them as they will all stack on top of each other and take more damage. Obviously leader power use early on is very important (and is why i dont play atriox as double fortifications gives you no game changers like stun or eng swarm). Hope this helps :slight_smile:

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> I keep getting my butt kicked in the early game. Most of my losses happen within the first 10 minutes of the game.
> How do I be more aggressive? I struggle to get map control and struggle even more to put on early pressure.
> I main Atriox, and start by building a chopper to collect energy, 2 harvesters, a power extractor, another chopper to go scout, harvester, and another power extractor. I also build mini bases with harvesters during this time, and try to produce early game choppers for map control
>
> This hasn’t worked for me at all, doing this put me on an 8 loss streak.
>
> How do y’all open, and what tips can y’all give me?

Second power extractor is dead.

Build a grunt and go cap two early power nodes. You’ll get 4 power a second for 400 less supply and 300 less power.

EDIT: If you’re ahead on army and have leftover supplies then you can recycle your fifth for another extractor. It gives you plenty power without sacrificing early game dominance.

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> I keep getting my butt kicked in the early game. Most of my losses happen within the first 10 minutes of the game.
> How do I be more aggressive? I struggle to get map control and struggle even more to put on early pressure.
> I main Atriox, and start by building a chopper to collect energy, 2 harvesters, a power extractor, another chopper to go scout, harvester, and another power extractor. I also build mini bases with harvesters during this time, and try to produce early game choppers for map control
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> This hasn’t worked for me at all, doing this put me on an 8 loss streak.
>
> How do y’all open, and what tips can y’all give me?

Instantly Sup>Gen>Sup, upgrade supplies (or gen and a supply w/e you fancy)

Micro your 3 dudes to take the best resources first I.E. the big powder keg look energies. If none, any crates.

Sup>Mini base>Gen>Air pad (there is potential to skip that gen)

Chopper, Chopper, Engi, Chopper, Engi, Chopper (something to this effect) use both mini and main to pump choppers.

While attack and or capturing points Shield, Shield, more units

If that some how goes south full shield and build banshee’s/locusts.

You can choose your own destiny when it comes to leader powers.

Welp, you have a little less than 16 hours to exploit the Double Shield Strat before it gets nerfed tomorrow…

The chopper and Banshee nerfs will come after the patch so you have more time to try those out.

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> Welp, you have a little less than 16 hours to exploit the Double Shield Strat before it gets nerfed tomorrow…
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> The chopper and Banshee nerfs will come after the patch so you have more time to try those out.

Kindof bummed out that they aren’t doing full nerfs yet. I like banshees at much as the next guy, but I honestly feel like I’ve gotten worse since banshee spam.
It feels like banished vs banished is a race to banshees, and I face so little unsc that I’m never really sure what they’re gonna do.

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> > Welp, you have a little less than 16 hours to exploit the Double Shield Strat before it gets nerfed tomorrow…
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> > The chopper and Banshee nerfs will come after the patch so you have more time to try those out.
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> Kindof bummed out that they aren’t doing full nerfs yet. I like banshees at much as the next guy, but I honestly feel like I’ve gotten worse since banshee spam.
> It feels like banished vs banished is a race to banshees, and I face so little unsc that I’m never really sure what they’re gonna do.

The Banshee and Chopper nerfs will happen on Thursday. Johnson will maybe be buffed that day also so you should see a heavy spike in UNSC use

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> > > Welp, you have a little less than 16 hours to exploit the Double Shield Strat before it gets nerfed tomorrow…
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> > > The chopper and Banshee nerfs will come after the patch so you have more time to try those out.
> >
> > Kindof bummed out that they aren’t doing full nerfs yet. I like banshees at much as the next guy, but I honestly feel like I’ve gotten worse since banshee spam.
> > It feels like banished vs banished is a race to banshees, and I face so little unsc that I’m never really sure what they’re gonna do.
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> The Banshee and Chopper nerfs will happen on Thursday. Johnson will maybe be buffed that day also so you should see a heavy spike in UNSC use

Awesome. I’m excited to see what they roll out.

Banshee and Chopper are getting nerfed ??? Wtf ?