e3 Halo 4 retail editions ?

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I think we will hear about the editions at e3, because we haven’t heard about them yet, and because I think e3 is the place that such a announcement would be made.

I think a regular, heroic, legendary edition, Halo 4 Xbox 360 S bundle, and 2 pre-order bonuses (Multi-player DLC armor set marketplace code and a invitation to the Halo 5 beta) will be revealed at the end of Halo 4’s presentation at e3.

The 2 pre-order bonuses wouldn’t be retailer specific, I think they will be the same for all retailers.

Here is what I think the editions will have in them . .

Regular = the game, paper manual, Xbox Live 48 hour insert, and the 2 pre-order bonuses inserts.

Heroic = the game, paper manual, Xbox Live 48 hour insert, Halo 4 concept art book, Multi-player DLC armor set code that is on a paper insert, and the 2 pre-order bonuses.

Legendary = the game, paper manual, Xbox Live 48 hour insert, Halo 4 concept art book, Multi-player DLC armor set code that is on a paper insert (Same armor as the Heroic edition), another Multi-player DLC armor set code that is exclusive to the Legendary edition, a die-cast metal Master Chief statue and or a Infinity statue made out of the kind of plastic that the Reach statue is.

Halo 4 Xbox 360 console bundle = Basically the same contents as the Reach bundle, but the Multi-player DLC armor set code would be one that is exclusive to the bundle.

The pre-order bonuses would be a code for a Multi-player DLC armor set and a invitation to the Halo 5 multi-player beta. Much like how Bungie did with the Reach beta with Halo 3 ODST.

ps I know such a idea of a Halo 5 multi-player beta might sound crazy, but the actual beta won’t take place until most likely the end of August next year, and Halo 5 won’t be out until the end of 2014.

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Are you insane? They wouldn’t waste precious floor time at E3 talking about stupid -Yoink- like retail editions. They could easily announce those for viewing comfort through a video on Waypoint.

Halo 5 beta? That’s also crazy, they’re just finishing up Halo 4 and it’s coming together. It takes roughly 2-3 years to make a huge title like Halo, Halo 4 took especially long because prior planning, bungie crossover, retooling the engine/etc. It can also be assumed that Halo 5 will launch on a next gen console, so your idea of a beta is far fetched.

Even if Halo 5 released on the 360, it still would be 2 years from now that we’d be hearing about a beta.

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lol all I’ll I want is gameplay at e3 plus all the things mentioned but only if heroic version has same dlc as legendary since some of us aren’t rich.

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> Are you insane? They wouldn’t waste precious floor time at E3 talking about stupid Yoink! like retail editions. They could easily announce those for viewing comfort through a video on Waypoint.
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> Halo 5 beta? That’s also crazy, they’re just finishing up Halo 4 and it’s coming together. It takes roughly 2-3 years to make a huge title like Halo, Halo 4 took especially long because prior planning, bungie crossover, retooling the engine/etc. It can also be assumed that Halo 5 will launch on a next gen console, so your idea of a beta is far fetched.
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> Even if Halo 5 released on the 360, it still would be 2 years from now that we’d be hearing about a beta.

If that was the case with Waypoint, wouldn’t they have did it already ? I think they are saving such a announcement for e3.

And with regards to what you said about what I said about a Halo 5 beta, I mentioned that a Halo 5 beta wouldn’t take place until the end of August 2013, and I also said that Halo 5 wouldn’t come out until the end of 2014.

And since 343 has heavily modified the Reach engine, that makes me think that they will stick with the same engine for Halo 5, but they would most likely modify it more.

Halo 6 would most definitely be a launch title for the next Xbox, 343 might make a whole new engine, because of a new Xbox.

A new Xbox I think would come out at the end of 2015

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i bet that kind of thing will be mentioned at the very end of the presentation.
the presentation itself, I bet it’s going to be a mission on the Shield World or just the very first mission

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> i bet that kind of thing will be mentioned at the very end of the presentation.
> the presentation itself, I bet it’s going to be a mission on the Shield World or just the very first mission

I hope it is the first mission, there is no need to show anything past it.

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The Halo 5 beta doesn’t sound likely because Halo 5 will be on the Xbox “720”

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> The Halo 5 beta doesn’t sound likely because Halo 5 will be on the Xbox “720”

I don’t think Halo 5 will on the next Xbox, I think this, because 343 has heavily modified the Reach engine.

By the beginning of next year, I think 343 will start modifying the Halo 4 engine if they decide to, and they would start working on Halo 5.

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> > The Halo 5 beta doesn’t sound likely because Halo 5 will be on the Xbox “720”
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> I don’t think Halo 5 will on the next Xbox, I think this, because 343 has heavily modified the Reach engine.
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> By the beginning of next year, I think 343 will start modifying the Halo 4 engine if they decide to, and they would start working on Halo 5.

Welp, hate to burst your bubble, but from the moment they announced the second trilogy they’ve pretty much said Halo 5 and 6 will not be on the 360.

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> > > The Halo 5 beta doesn’t sound likely because Halo 5 will be on the Xbox “720”
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> > I don’t think Halo 5 will on the next Xbox, I think this, because 343 has heavily modified the Reach engine.
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> > By the beginning of next year, I think 343 will start modifying the Halo 4 engine if they decide to, and they would start working on Halo 5.
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> Welp, hate to burst your bubble, but from the moment they announced the second trilogy they’ve pretty much said Halo 5 and 6 will not be on the 360.

I don’t think that is the case, Halo 4 is 343’s first time making a Halo game from the ground up.

For 343 to heavily modify the Reach engine, and then use that heavily modified engine for only 1 game would be pretty odd.

We most likely will hear about the new Xbox at e3 2014.

And now that I think about what I said earlier, Halo 6 might not be a launch title for the next Xbox =(

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I am fairly certain it was all but confirmed that Halo 5 would be next gen release, not 360.

ETA -

Regarding the engine modifications - 343 heavily modifying the engine isn’t really a surprise or anything unexpected. Each Halo has “heavily modified” the engine of it’s predecessor. It was explained in one of the ViDocs that there is some teeny tiny part of Halo: Combat Evolved still left in the engine that gets used but that for all intents and purposes, it’s completely rebuilt for each successive game.

So Halo 2’s engine was a modified one of CE. 3 heavily modified 2’s. Reach heavily modified H3’s so it’s only normal that Halo 4’s will be a heavily modified version of Reach’s engine.

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> > > > The Halo 5 beta doesn’t sound likely because Halo 5 will be on the Xbox “720”
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> > > I don’t think Halo 5 will on the next Xbox, I think this, because 343 has heavily modified the Reach engine.
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> > > By the beginning of next year, I think 343 will start modifying the Halo 4 engine if they decide to, and they would start working on Halo 5.
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> > Welp, hate to burst your bubble, but from the moment they announced the second trilogy they’ve pretty much said Halo 5 and 6 will not be on the 360.
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> I don’t think that is the case, Halo 4 is 343’s first time making a Halo game from the ground up.
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> For 343 to heavily modify the Reach engine, and then use that heavily modified engine for only 1 game would be pretty odd.
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> We most likely will hear about the new Xbox at e3 2014.
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> And now that I think about what I said earlier, Halo 6 might not be a launch title for the next Xbox =(

You really think that we will get another halo on 360? Really? Its about time that we are going to see “Durango”. E3 2013 is durango time and not later. I would not buy Halo5 on a 360. This would be meh.

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> I am fairly certain it was all but confirmed that Halo 5 would be next gen release, not 360.

Really ? I haven’t read anything about that =( Where could I find that info ?

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> > > > > The Halo 5 beta doesn’t sound likely because Halo 5 will be on the Xbox “720”
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> > > > I don’t think Halo 5 will on the next Xbox, I think this, because 343 has heavily modified the Reach engine.
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> > > > By the beginning of next year, I think 343 will start modifying the Halo 4 engine if they decide to, and they would start working on Halo 5.
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> > > Welp, hate to burst your bubble, but from the moment they announced the second trilogy they’ve pretty much said Halo 5 and 6 will not be on the 360.
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> > I don’t think that is the case, Halo 4 is 343’s first time making a Halo game from the ground up.
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> > For 343 to heavily modify the Reach engine, and then use that heavily modified engine for only 1 game would be pretty odd.
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> > We most likely will hear about the new Xbox at e3 2014.
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> > And now that I think about what I said earlier, Halo 6 might not be a launch title for the next Xbox =(
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> You really think that we will get another halo on 360? Really? Its about time that we are going to see “Durango”. E3 2013 is durango time and not later. I would not buy Halo5 on a 360. This would be meh.

It all really comes down to how well the 360 is selling, Microsoft I think will hold off on revealing any official new’s regrading Durango, until 360 sales start to show a decline.

And like I said earlier, Halo 4 is 343’s first go at making a Halo game from the ground up.

For Halo 5 to run on a new Xbox, the engine for it would need to be extremely modified in order to use all of the new hardware effectively

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> > I am fairly certain it was all but confirmed that Halo 5 would be next gen release, not 360.
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> Really ? I haven’t read anything about that =( Where could I find that info ?

I don’t have sources or anything off the top of my head but let’s do a little math. Let’s assume that it’ll be 2-3 years before Halo 5 is released which would put us at late 2014 at the EARLIEST possible release for Halo 4.

The Xbox 360 was released in 2005 which makes it already 7 years old. Assuming a console that is at minimum 9 years old at release of Halo 5 and considering it’s pretty much hit the limits of what it’s capable of now…it’s HIGHLY doubtful that the 360 will see the launch of Halo 5.

> For Halo 5 to run on a new Xbox, the engine for it would need to be extremely modified in order to use all of the new hardware effectively

Buddy…let’s look at it this way. It’s Microsoft. They have the funds, know how, and time to make it happen. Game development doesn’t happen overnight and I definitely wouldn’t put it past the company to be working on very very early stages of things as we speak.

Plus like I said before - EVERY engine was heavily modified. Heavily modifying the Halo 4 engine for Halo 5 is definitely not impossible nor unlikely. Quite the opposite, it’s pretty much a sure bet.

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> > > > > > The Halo 5 beta doesn’t sound likely because Halo 5 will be on the Xbox “720”
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> > > > > I don’t think Halo 5 will on the next Xbox, I think this, because 343 has heavily modified the Reach engine.
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> > > > > By the beginning of next year, I think 343 will start modifying the Halo 4 engine if they decide to, and they would start working on Halo 5.
> > > >
> > > > Welp, hate to burst your bubble, but from the moment they announced the second trilogy they’ve pretty much said Halo 5 and 6 will not be on the 360.
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> > > I don’t think that is the case, Halo 4 is 343’s first time making a Halo game from the ground up.
> > >
> > > For 343 to heavily modify the Reach engine, and then use that heavily modified engine for only 1 game would be pretty odd.
> > >
> > > We most likely will hear about the new Xbox at e3 2014.
> > >
> > > And now that I think about what I said earlier, Halo 6 might not be a launch title for the next Xbox =(
> >
> > You really think that we will get another halo on 360? Really? Its about time that we are going to see “Durango”. E3 2013 is durango time and not later. I would not buy Halo5 on a 360. This would be meh.
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> It all really comes down to how well the 360 is selling, Microsoft I think will hold off on revealing any official new’s regrading Durango, until 360 sales start to show a decline.
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> And like I said earlier, Halo 4 is 343’s first go at making a Halo game from the ground up.
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> For Halo 5 to run on a new Xbox, the engine for it would need to be extremely modified in order to use all of the new hardware effectively

Sales doesnt matter… The ps2 had great sales but regardles of this the PS3 got announced…
The 360 can still be there, but most people will switch to the new console.

And Halo4 is a PERFECT Halo2 story. End Halo4 with a epic cliffhanger and there we go.

2013 Durango announcemnt with 2013 release. E3 2014 Halo5 announcement with 2015 Release.
It makes so much sense to do that. Halo5 would be miles better on new Hardware.

For Halo3, bungie had to rewrote the Engine too. Some Halo3 levels were already playable on the old Xbox. The 360 announcement was a shocker for most Dev teams (including Bungie)
Hell i even think 343 already has some people on Halo5 for prototyping and engine coding on Durango.They even already got a Devkit for Durango.

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> Buddy…let’s look at it this way. It’s Microsoft. They have the funds, know how, and time to make it happen. Game development doesn’t happen overnight and I definitely wouldn’t put it past the company to be working on very very early stages of things as we speak.
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> Plus like I said before - EVERY engine was heavily modified. Heavily modifying the Halo 4 engine for Halo 5 is definitely not impossible nor unlikely. Quite the opposite, it’s pretty much a sure bet.

I understand all of that.

I agree the 360 is getting pretty old, but it still sell’s very well. And Microsoft has released Kinect which adds to it’s capabilities.

I think the 360 could keep up the pace of sales that it has up until e3 2014.

And for 343 to release Halo 5 on the next Xbox, they would need dev kits of it. From what I have read on Kotaku and other gaming website some devolpers have early builds of the new xbox, but 343 is in the middle of making Halo 4.

I doubt they have people working with it yet, or if they do then it is a very small group of people.

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Yeah the 360 could stay until 2014.
But that doesnt mean that microsoft will not announce a new console before that.
They are really really deep in durango development. More and more rumors and specs popping up. Where is smoke, there is fire.
And Kinect adds nothing. U already get a glimpse how fast nobody cares anymore about kinect.
That Kinect Crytek game RYSE is Lost or whatever, probably cancelled or now a project for Durango.
The formerly announced Joyride now gets a Controller only release, Halo4 will not have kinect gimmicks… And lets face it. What do u want next year from microsoft? A gears prequel? Fable 5? On 360? Microsoft could get new IPs into next gen. A new grat franchise. Microsoft vancouver is rumored to work on a Durango Game.

It really looks like that Halo4 is microsofts last swan song for the 360.

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343 doesn’t make the Xbox, Microsoft does. And I didn’t say 343 had people working on “it” but rather Microsoft. And frankly, neither you nor I know what the entire staff at 343 does so they very well might have people doing that, we don’t know.

The console is pretty much done with it’s lifespan. Mechanically, it can’t physically handle much more. With the evolution of graphics, it’s going to take a major upgrade for consoles to start outputting in actual HD.

The Kinect was almost a sort of life support patch for the 360 to help extend the life of it. There is no Kinect involvement with Halo 4 - why not?

Sure, maybe it could keep up the pace of sales but when people realize that the 360 is no longer performing optimally, they will stop buying it. Again, the console is already 7 years old and by the time Halo 5 comes out will likely be 10 years old. That’s absolutely prehistoric with regards to technology. It’s pretty unreasonable to expect a console that is at the performance limits now to perform to even higher standards in at least 2 years, if not 3, from now.

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> Yeah the 360 could stay until 2014.
> But that doesnt mean that microsoft will not announce a new console before that.
> They are really really deep in durango development. More and more rumors and specs popping up. Where is smoke, there is fire.
> And Kinect adds nothing. U already get a glimpse how fast nobody cares anymore about kinect.
> That Kinect Crytek game RYSE is Lost or whatever, probably cancelled or now a project for Durango.
> The formerly announced Joyride now gets a Controller only release, Halo4 will not have kinect gimmicks… And lets face it. What do u want next year from microsoft? A gears prequel? Fable 5? On 360? Microsoft could get new IPs into next gen. A new grat franchise. Microsoft vancouver is rumored to work on a Durango Game.
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> It really looks like that Halo4 is microsofts last swan song for the 360.

I don’t like Kinect, and I will never buy it, but Microsoft poured a lot of money into it.

This year I think Microsoft will try 1 last time to get people to buy the Kinect, next year I think will be the last year we hear big AAA games being announced for the 360, Halo 5 being one of them.

A new Xbox would be nice, but like I have said the 360 still sells very well, a new Xbox anytime soon would divide the market and hurt sales of the 360.

I agree 100% that they are developing thing’s now, but that doesn’t mean they need to show anything just yet.

ps Getting back to my OP, a Halo 5 beta invitation would build even more hype for Halo 4.