If you have played with me recently or since the launch of Beta, I DO NOT apologize for the abuse if you have been a toxic player caught in the Bu11shyte of halo.
This may offend some players… BUT what is more offensive, is your lack of care, your quitting, lack of teamwork, lack of trying, team shooting, AFK’ing, GENERAL lack of skill, utter trash talk, unhelpful winging, no call outs, no mics, dumb plays & not listening to your damn team & throwing the game or TEAM F^%KING NADING!
STRONGHOLDS - JUST CAP B as soon as the game starts, B is the only location free, go cap it. Don’t run to C or A (depending on your spawns) & leave 2v4 or worse 1v4, because guess what… THE OPPOSING TEAM WILL BE CAPPING OUR SPAWN NEXT BECAUSE THEY ARE WORKING AS A SMART TEAM
Cap B, we defend, we have A & B or C & B (Depending on your team) & start scoring… We recap C or A as spawns swap & ALWAYS defend B as a priority - YOU WILL WIN 8 -10 games, depending on your teams defence on B.
I do not care for you people that want to sit in our spawn and pretend to defend or team nade as we go to recap, or run A to C or C to A & cry that we are losing when you are the cause, ENOUGH of this -Yoink!-. This is costing genuine players CSR, MMR & TIME & MAKING IT SO STRESSFUL & UNFORFULLING & most of us want to succeed & reach Onyx, as a personal goal/team goal & the objective of playing ranked is to play as a team, effectively & efficiently & climb the ranking ladder TOGETHER
ODDBALL - PROTECT THE BALL CARRIER, that’s all, that’s the objective, simple right?
CTF - I can’t believe I have to explain to people on a daily how to play CTF… It’s infuriating. Grab a flag & run with it & the team must “protect the flag carrier” AS THE DAMN VOICEOVER TELLS YOU! You will win if you do this
Go play casual to get your dumb challenges Rant over
I can relate to your frustration, but it’s definitely not as simple as you’re making it seem.
I won’t type a huge paragraph of advice, but go watch pro gameplay. It’s WAY deeper than you’re making it seem, and unfortunately the average player doesn’t fully understand that.
But that’s okay, everyone has a different reason for playing. Even in ranked play, we should allow people time to learn and understand the game.
I understand that, I watch pro’s, I understand the counter cap & fake outs for CTF but I feel this is part of the problem.
Pro’s know the basics and fundamentals of how to play the game, but people who are ranked Diamond and above should know the fundamental basics yeah?
If you can’t play objective what are you doing in ranked? You can play & learn the same game types in casual & BTB plalists & not be carried by your mates to a high rank then have no idea how to play and ruin it for the rest of us.
Here’s a prime example - Diamond 1, picks up the ball from tower & runs the ball down tunnel towards House on live fire with 1 round a piece & 85 - 80 score our way… He ran it to there spawn in house! We lost…
The whole team was yelling at him & he continued to run it and die in tunnel and they held it in house with a sniper and invis. This shouldn’t be happening. The skill ceiling will never grow with people like this in ranked.
You are speaking my language my friend!!
Rank 40’s + in H3 was like you fight to the death to beat people. H5 high Diamonds was like if you miss 1 of your 5 shots your dead. You look at a sniper, your dead. You can’t no scope, good luck to you. If you don’t average a 50+ accuracy, you aint winning nothing.
This is like a simpleton city. You have to baby spartans like were on a training course but your teaching/coaching on the fly in a rankled match with 10 games of MMR on the line. Just dumb IMO.
Mate honestly the only solution if it drives you this crazy is to play in a squad (I understand your frustrations) I’ve personally found once reaching Onyx that team mates are more often than not very competent and play to win. You just have to claw your way out of those lower divisions.
Problems:
FREE. TO. PLAY (Influx of inexperienced Halo players)
NO TEAM SLAYER PLAYLIST (Some players just will not play the objective)
YOUR SKILL RATING IS SEEMINGLY BASED ON KDA (Can Hold the Oddball or get all flag caps and rank down even on a win, (going slightly negative KDA) whilst team mates only slaying rank up significantly) the ranking doesn’t reward for simply winning or great objective contribution.
That exact thing happened to me yesterday, wonder if it was the same game I was in lol.
But yeah the issue is the skill distribution is borked right now and it needs tweaking, too many people in Diamond. Even the amount of Onyx players that don’t understand how to adapt to the flow of the objective match is huge.
Like you said, always cap B… but actually that isn’t always the strat and players don’t seem to understand how or when they need to do certain things to influence the game. I use my mic and try to direct the team as much as possible without overstepping. It must be working to some degree as I’m Onyx in both playlists and have a pretty high win ratio playing by myself.
HAHAHA I’m sure I wouldn’t of abused you if you chatting and making calls.
Absolutely agree, the skill ceiling is super low. I’m diamond 5 currently - (just crossed that stuck point of Diamond 4) in crossplay and diamond 3 in MnK & diamond 4 on the controller queues.
Exactly you do have to adapt and counter cap and swap spawns and so on and so forth… but being able to read this is key to victory and unfortunately in this ever-connected world we forget to talk & make call-outs.
Ps - I have seen some 1700 onyx’s not know wtf they’re doing & it’s like, did you buy your account mate?
I can forgive a lot of players for not knowing the intricacies inherent to Halo. The game is still new at this point and with it being f2p, there’s probably a lot of players in ranked who are playing Halo for the first time. Yeah, they should know to go for ball or flag, but proper rotation, spawn swaps, team shooting, etc can take a bit to get a feel for.
What really bothers me is the lack of communication I constantly run into. Turn on your mics in ranked or, at the very least, use the ping functionality.
Completely agree, I guess also to your point “casual” is more of the big fellas getting some easy kills since it doesn’t look like SBMM has been introduced to the casual playlist yet. I remember back in H3 you would literally come off the sweat matches to dominate newbs.
SO really, the underlying issue could be the fact there is no training in halo since becoming F2P? I know for CoD, Titanfall even had a little training session on how to use stuff & make you run around doing stuff. Bots don’t really count, you need a lesson set up?
It really ticks me off the no coms… The team get amped when there chatting away & you get on the mic, everyone loses their minds!
I mean, your strong hold argument isn’t valid 100% of the time. A lot of halo is controlling power weapons which gives you greater map control. I can’t remember the map name, but on one of the maps on stronghold, sword spawns at C. If you’re on A side spawn, it’s imperative to send at least one person to contest that. Some times giving up a few points to get control of the map is a lot more important. If my options are to take B and let them have the power weapon uncontested, or contest power and give up 5-10 points, I’m going to contest the power weapon. I can turn around and immediately capture C to relieve pressure from B then rotate to get B back or defend A then take B anyways. I’ll have a much higher chance at successfully holding points with power than I will at defending two points against power.
Its not as cut and dry and you’re making it out to be. Giving up some points in control or oddball so you can get power items and position your team to control the map is more important. You can control spawns, control flow, and ultimately control the rest of the game by sacrificing 10-15 seconds at the beginning of the match
I find rushing C on recharge when you spawn A is the play to be honest. I am in the lower ranks but everyone rushes B leaving C wide open. Plus holding C and A is a hell of a lot easier than pushing B which is out in the open. Just my preferred play and seems to work most of the time.
This is a fair assesment & I think the map is called “Recharge” - I know what you’re talking about though.
On this map, my general move will be the camo spawns bottom mid, generally you would have an enemy rush this. 1 person stands at A and looks down on camo & protect my teammate running camo & then he runs to sword holding camo, touch C but don’t cap (unless we lost B), pop camo, hit sneaky in the yellow hall/long hall (halway on the left of C) & back caps B if we fail to cap B. Meanwhile, the 3 teammates would be A & the back cap or rotating to C then B then hold and rotate as needed.
I don’t think giving up points on Oddball is wise… you can get away with it on strongholds but you can eaily be outboxed in oddball and before you know it you lose the round and next round.
Considering the electric pistol is OP & the laser gun on that ledge is 1 shot to the dome & the grapple hook being really accessible & the OP AS ALL GET OUT, the reflection ability (I call it the booper) it’s pretty easy to defend sword these days & nades & melee.
Rockets on the other hand, you need those bad boys!
Where hold B & A (Can shoot from B ledge into A & defend the stair runners & long hall) or B to C (Can shoot right through to C & defend heavily against A + you can grab Camo & sword on the rotate in both these spots.
Yea I agree. I solo que and run into a lot of games where everyone is just running to the next hold. Not really holding specific areas. I have had plenty of games where I can just hold C from the back corner near sword spawn. Usually once A gets taken I run up the stairs with sword/mangler as the other team usually comes from the door up top and take them out. Grab A run back to C rinse and repeat. Playing gold/plats so not a lot of team work going on to be honest just people runnin and gunnin lol. Also can always rotate up to front of C and throw some shots out towards B. I have had a couple games where we held A and C. Other team kept spawning back corner behind B. Had a pretty good wall setup where they couldn’t get to C. A can be a tough hold sometimes just depends on the other teams play.
Edit: really just depends on how the game play rolls out. Having game plans for any scenario is always good.
I know for CoD, Titanfall even had a little training session on how to use stuff & make you run around doing stuff. Bots don’t really count, you need a lesson set up?